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TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 11:54 GMT
#421
On May 14 2012 20:41 FilthyRake wrote:
my 10 minute a-move push as toss, through bronze, won every game.
in silver, it didnt usually win the game, but it would put me far enough ahead that I could then take my third and crush.

in gold, it still seems to do pretty well... though I'm having a lot of issues vs zerg atm. as soon as they scout my expo, they mass lings and roaches and just kill me while I'm still teching up lol.

works *fantastic* vs terran though.


The usual early push from the terran with 3 marauders and some marines, did that make a difference? While this beat me senseless before getting a grasp on my macro I can now kill it off fairly easy, but it still makes me wary of pushing out at 10 minutes, knowing the rate the terrans can replenish his forces...

Could be that fear makes me lose games; i'm always the pessimist when it comes to estimating my opponents forces. He can run up my ramp with 4 marauders and a marine, and I think it looks like 40 food... Same goes for what I think he has at 10 mins
Guanyin
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden38 Posts
May 14 2012 11:59 GMT
#422
Thank you Filter for that awesome Zerg vid, I'll be following that.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#423
On May 14 2012 20:41 FilthyRake wrote:
my 10 minute a-move push as toss, through bronze, won every game.
in silver, it didnt usually win the game, but it would put me far enough ahead that I could then take my third and crush.

in gold, it still seems to do pretty well... though I'm having a lot of issues vs zerg atm. as soon as they scout my expo, they mass lings and roaches and just kill me while I'm still teching up lol.

works *fantastic* vs terran though.


Do you have a few replays btw? Would love to see your composition.
Tulx
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia11 Posts
May 14 2012 12:51 GMT
#424
On May 14 2012 21:33 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 20:41 FilthyRake wrote:
my 10 minute a-move push as toss, through bronze, won every game.
in silver, it didnt usually win the game, but it would put me far enough ahead that I could then take my third and crush.

in gold, it still seems to do pretty well... though I'm having a lot of issues vs zerg atm. as soon as they scout my expo, they mass lings and roaches and just kill me while I'm still teching up lol.

works *fantastic* vs terran though.


Do you have a few replays btw? Would love to see your composition.


Seconded.
Not everyone understands that internet spaceships are a serious business.
Rimak
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark434 Posts
May 14 2012 12:56 GMT
#425
On May 14 2012 20:41 FilthyRake wrote:
my 10 minute a-move push as toss, through bronze, won every game.
in silver, it didnt usually win the game, but it would put me far enough ahead that I could then take my third and crush.

in gold, it still seems to do pretty well... though I'm having a lot of issues vs zerg atm. as soon as they scout my expo, they mass lings and roaches and just kill me while I'm still teching up lol.

works *fantastic* vs terran though.

Did you end up with Archons or Imos?

Also against zerg, have you seen YufFE?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gate_Nexus_YufFE
2000 Jungler 66% Hecarim, 63% Volibear, 60% Jarvan IV
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 13:03:09
May 14 2012 13:01 GMT
#426
immortals - archons just kill my army comp because I'm so gas poor if I go for them. checking out that zerg build now.

I do have some replays, I will try to post them up tonight when I get home from work

what league would you guys like to see the reps vs? bronze? silver? or gold?
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TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 13:06 GMT
#427
Mainly bronze, but a few of each?
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
May 14 2012 13:11 GMT
#428
sure thing!
the only issue I have run into vs T really has been early hellions. But thats because I tend to go super zealot heavy and delay stalkers a little bit too long

I actually have some bronze/silver T replays here at work, so I might be able to get them up early.
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 13:13 GMT
#429
I wish I had a job where I could play SC
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
May 14 2012 13:46 GMT
#430
haha well, we had an AHGL team, which I was the captain of. We also have the occasional in-house tournament. I also try to sneak in a game or two during lunch

As requested, here are some replays. I tried to cover a wide range. You will note that I screw up pretty badly on some of them. If you want any more, or are looking for how I do against specific things, let me know. my replays are horribly unorganized, so it may take me a while to find what you're asking for.

http://drop.sc/179520

http://drop.sc/179521

http://drop.sc/179522 (this is where I tried out building Archons instead of immortals)

http://drop.sc/179523

http://drop.sc/179524

http://drop.sc/179525
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TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 13:58 GMT
#431
On May 14 2012 22:46 FilthyRake wrote:
haha well, we had an AHGL team, which I was the captain of. We also have the occasional in-house tournament. I also try to sneak in a game or two during lunch

As requested, here are some replays. I tried to cover a wide range. You will note that I screw up pretty badly on some of them. If you want any more, or are looking for how I do against specific things, let me know. my replays are horribly unorganized, so it may take me a while to find what you're asking for.

http://drop.sc/179520

http://drop.sc/179521

http://drop.sc/179522 (this is where I tried out building Archons instead of immortals)

http://drop.sc/179523

http://drop.sc/179524

http://drop.sc/179525


Thanks! On a tangent; where do you work?
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
May 14 2012 13:59 GMT
#432
These videos rock its pretty sad when a platinum player cant even do the bronze stuff consistantly i always seem to get 47-50 not 50-52 either way its already helped my macro a TON with terran so THANNNNK YOUUUU <3<3<3
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djdoodoo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom192 Posts
May 14 2012 14:00 GMT
#433
Day9 really isn't that helpful to anyone after gold league. Good post.
FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
May 14 2012 14:07 GMT
#434
On May 14 2012 22:58 TheExodus wrote:

Thanks! On a tangent; where do you work?


Palantir Technologies
Co-owner of PSISTORM Gaming
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 14:07 GMT
#435
On May 14 2012 23:00 djdoodoo wrote:
Day9 really isn't that helpful to anyone after gold league. Good post.


There should be plenty in his regular analyses, just stay away from newbie tuesday.
TheDroneNextDoor
Profile Joined April 2012
Hungary32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 14:52:45
May 14 2012 14:51 GMT
#436
The zerg tutorial cannot be right, I gave it a shot against a very easy AI, and on my first try I hit 35 drones @6 min, 59 drones @8 min, I had my third @7 min, and I maxed out @13 min
I never played zerg, since the larva inject was way too confusing to me, so either these benchmarks are off, or the terran tutorial thought me some pretty solid macro :D

Anyways, keep up the good work

Edit: silver terran here, so nothing fancy pro skill going on
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 14 2012 14:54 GMT
#437
On May 14 2012 23:51 TheDroneNextDoor wrote:
The zerg tutorial cannot be right, I gave it a shot against a very easy AI, and on my first try I hit 35 drones @6 min, 59 drones @8 min, I had my third @7 min, and I maxed out @13 min
I never played zerg, since the larva inject was way too confusing to me, so either these benchmarks are off, or the terran tutorial thought me some pretty solid macro :D

Anyways, keep up the good work

Edit: silver terran here, so nothing fancy pro skill going on


Haven't looked at the tutorial, but what happens if you get a visit from a zealot, 5-6 sentries and 3 stalkers in the middle of that?
Shmu
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada27 Posts
May 14 2012 15:00 GMT
#438
On May 14 2012 23:54 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 23:51 TheDroneNextDoor wrote:
The zerg tutorial cannot be right, I gave it a shot against a very easy AI, and on my first try I hit 35 drones @6 min, 59 drones @8 min, I had my third @7 min, and I maxed out @13 min
I never played zerg, since the larva inject was way too confusing to me, so either these benchmarks are off, or the terran tutorial thought me some pretty solid macro :D

Anyways, keep up the good work

Edit: silver terran here, so nothing fancy pro skill going on


Haven't looked at the tutorial, but what happens if you get a visit from a zealot, 5-6 sentries and 3 stalkers in the middle of that?


^This.

Gold level Zerg here, I nailed the benchmarks first try vs. the computer - but as soon as I jumped on the ladder it all went to shit... need more practice!
LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
May 14 2012 15:05 GMT
#439
On May 14 2012 23:00 djdoodoo wrote:
Day9 really isn't that helpful to anyone after gold league. Good post.


Huh? Day9 does quite a bit of high-level analysis that certainly is useful for people in
leagues above gold.
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
May 14 2012 16:05 GMT
#440
Hello Filter!

Just saw and downloaded your replay pack from masters.I expected lot so,now i am lil bit disappointed.Its your TvT.I waited to see how is your BIO style working in Diamond and Master,but you open always with the Banshee one.And the game ends anyways with Marine,Tank,Medivac,Viking...I just hate it.Isnt there any other composition in TvT that works on that high level?The majority of T players on ladder,just leave the game or maki crazy cheese and 1 base all ins,because all of them say,they hate TvT.

U said: dont go Tanks if u dont see your oponent makes tanks,but i see that u too are making tanks befere them and u won a game on Daybreak that way.

So,really,isnt there any other BO or unit compo in TvT?
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