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Miserie
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium92 Posts
May 07 2012 14:41 GMT
#301
I reached the basic benchmarks in the 1st and 2nd video yesterday as a Protoss, even had 56 workers and ended up with 30-something zealots (twice the cost of marines) ^^

Love this thread, actually makes me want to switch to Terran
Work work work.
lifegiver
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia3 Posts
May 07 2012 14:53 GMT
#302
Thank you filter! I actually feel like I know how to play this game now; it's really fun!
It's a lot of fun!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 14:59:18
May 07 2012 14:58 GMT
#303
On May 07 2012 23:53 lifegiver wrote:
Thank you filter! I actually feel like I know how to play this game now; it's really fun!


Agree!

Before I was "learning build orders" and failing.

Now with benchmarks I don't even have to analyze replays for a while. Just look at the different minutes at my scv count/army supply and I know why I lost

I love that SC2 on a casual level is actually as simple as that.

I wished there was these benchmarks much earlier after SC2 release.

This tutorial series is the best one for casuals/low leaguers like myself. Suddenly I'm not even stressed on ladder. I just look at my supply count at different minutes and I know if this is going to go well or if I'm gonna lose

I can't wait to see the plat and diamond replay packs coming out.
GrandSmurf
Profile Joined July 2003
Netherlands462 Posts
May 07 2012 19:19 GMT
#304
hey filter. i used to think i was doing 'ok' with my terran and then i stumbled across this gem of a post.

thanks for showing me how much i need to improve, and how !

cheers
One time that happened and I just stopped everything, selected the offending SCV, hit Cancel, moved it over to my Barracks, made a Marine, had the Marine shoot it to death, then left the game.
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 07 2012 19:36 GMT
#305
Out of curiosity, is anybody meeting the 14 minute maxed out benchmark? The best I can do is 177 food at 14:00, I can't surpass it so far...
Captain Marksie
Profile Joined March 2012
40 Posts
May 07 2012 19:44 GMT
#306
On May 08 2012 04:36 Natespank wrote:
Out of curiosity, is anybody meeting the 14 minute maxed out benchmark? The best I can do is 177 food at 14:00, I can't surpass it so far...


Im not sure if its possible because of all the upgrades you are getting at the same time. Obviously if Filter can hit it, it is possible, so Filter, have you hit it?
BreakfastTea
Profile Joined May 2011
United States184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 19:51:19
May 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#307
On May 08 2012 04:36 Natespank wrote:
Out of curiosity, is anybody meeting the 14 minute maxed out benchmark? The best I can do is 177 food at 14:00, I can't surpass it so far...


I've done it, but I haven't gotten it consistently yet; more often, I max at 14:10 to 14:20, but if you're really crisp, you should be able to do it, or at least come really close to it.
Don't take me seriously, I'm no Pro. Neither are you.
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 07 2012 20:45 GMT
#308
On May 08 2012 04:44 Captain Marksie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 04:36 Natespank wrote:
Out of curiosity, is anybody meeting the 14 minute maxed out benchmark? The best I can do is 177 food at 14:00, I can't surpass it so far...


Im not sure if its possible because of all the upgrades you are getting at the same time. Obviously if Filter can hit it, it is possible, so Filter, have you hit it?


Never hit it in a real game, come really close though (and those games are walkovers). That particular benchmark is designed to be extremely difficult to hit. I kind of figure the higher you aim... the better off you are. If you max at 14:30, or have 175 food despite a big fight earlier at 14:00 you know you're in a really good position. I rarely max out at all in my games though because I like to play extremely aggressively from the time I attack (usually around 11 minutes TvZ, 8 minutes TvP (Using LastShadows build atm, and tvt whenever he's out of position) on through to the end.
Live hard, live free.
SgtDumpout
Profile Joined May 2012
1 Post
May 07 2012 21:52 GMT
#309
Hi guys. I'm posting videos of me, bronze player terran, playing in the bronze league. You'll see good things and bad things, and my commentary along with it that I think can help make life in the bronze league a little easier. Your comments and tips will be greatly appreciated. Enjoy and GL!

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrutalBronze?feature=watch
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 08 2012 03:13 GMT
#310
I updated the original post with the replay packs that some people have been asking for, finally got around to updated the packs. The master pack is actually pretty sad at some points but there's also some great games in there too.

There's also a bonus master ZvZ replay, if you want to get an idea of how my zergs coming.
Live hard, live free.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
May 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#311
Could really use a Protoss one of these...o well, what can you do
Delow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 06:04:45
May 08 2012 05:45 GMT
#312
Man i watch these videos all day at work, and i have been winning most my bronze matches, I am now number 1 and only play silver/gold people (still havnt jumped to silver) I have beaten every gold, lost to a few silver.
http://drop.sc/174753
I am still trying to get the bronze/silver/gold down so expanding is awkward for me to 3rd base and I rack up alot of minerals. But I think I managed his harrass decent, and his tank rush pretty decent, pushed him back and my macro apparently was way better then his. all he had was +1 on vehicles and infantry, i was working on +2 and had c-shields conc shot and stim.

man these are awesome videos and the filtersc custom game is a great help too.

although now im getting so caught up in macroing I forget to attack haha

well i just played a plat player (he lied and said he was bronze!)

http://drop.sc/174759

Thanks Filter!!!!
FritzPfotl
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria29 Posts
May 08 2012 07:34 GMT
#313
Awesome guide, keep up the good work!
crz1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany20 Posts
May 08 2012 08:48 GMT
#314
Really love this guide. Made me understand the game much better. The benchmark-idea is also a great measurement tool. Been playing lots of custom games lately to get the concept smoothly rollin.
After a few days of really boring custom games with focus on the benchmarks i went back to ladder and had a great win streak which brought me to top 8 gold. YAAYY
hope i can keep that up as i'm really feeling uncomfortable when not playing a few days.

What always bugs me out on the ladder is that you get gold/plat-players which really suck and suddenly there is a bronze/silver player you lose horribly to without doing something obviously wrong. Ok, rerollers, 2nd account-players.. i know, i know and if you check match history or career there are plenty of them. But that makes it quite hard to predict who you will face in the next game (where im favored or even) and to raise on the ladder. and it really bumps my confidence back when i lose to a player from a lower league.
Ok that was offtopic Sorry.

What i wanted to say is that this is the best guide i've read and watched up to now (and ive read/watched many ). So simple, clear an adaptable. Thank you! Just great!
Alright soweit
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:17:53
May 08 2012 09:13 GMT
#315
On May 08 2012 04:36 Natespank wrote:
Out of curiosity, is anybody meeting the 14 minute maxed out benchmark? The best I can do is 177 food at 14:00, I can't surpass it so far...


Here's a benchmarking game I played against the AI where I hit 200/200 at 14min doing a 1 rax expand. I don't play terran and I've only seen parts of Filter's VODs so it's not a verbatim build order. In a real game I'd probably max at the 14:30-15:00 mark assuming minimal losses, and I could've probably maxed slightly faster (13:30-13:45) if I had avoided supply blocks/had more rax.

EDIT: Forgot Link and failed edit

http://drop.sc/174795
hell is other people
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:17:06
May 08 2012 09:16 GMT
#316
hell is other people
ejaPhyrex
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5 Posts
May 08 2012 17:21 GMT
#317
These videos are the great. I'm a Zerg and look forward to those videos but just watching these has given me a better mindset on what I need to work on. I sent this to one of my Terran buddies and he has improved so much. Thank you! And keep up the great work!
furin121
Profile Joined May 2012
United States6 Posts
May 08 2012 17:59 GMT
#318
Just thought I'd add another 'thank you note' to the list. I *Thought* my macro was ok untill I watched these vids. Spent last night just working on macro against AI and then went online for two matches. I was 1-1 in those matches with my defeat coming to someone who was just superiour to me (had more units, upgrades in the work, etc). The guy I beat seemed to be around my level and I had to do a little micro to survive his first counterattack, but by then I had so many units on the way that after I stopped his counter I just walked over him.

So, thanks again. Count me as a follower on twitch and a sub on youtube.
zoglug
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
May 08 2012 20:09 GMT
#319
Massive thanks for these vids! Ive only been playing SC2 around 4 weeks, had some sucess with Protoss but always wanted to learn Terran! Im currently on the first vid, but am slowly getting there. On a regular basis im hitting 46/47 scv's. Most i got was 52 which i was delighted with. Im able to get my expansion down on time pretty much every time! Looking forward to progressing through them! Hopefully ill soon rise up from the depths of Bronze league!
You cant see where you are going......if you constantly look at where you have been
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 08 2012 20:24 GMT
#320
Here's a benchmarking game I played against the AI where I hit 200/200 at 14min doing a 1 rax expand. I don't play terran and I've only seen parts of Filter's VODs so it's not a verbatim build order. In a real game I'd probably max at the 14:30-15:00 mark assuming minimal losses, and I could've probably maxed slightly faster (13:30-13:45) if I had avoided supply blocks/had more rax.

EDIT: Forgot Link and failed edit

http://drop.sc/174795


Thanks for the replay, gonna watch it this evening :D
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