I have this problem where I try to cast a series of forcefields or graviton beams (I assume it is the same with other spell, but I haven't checked) and after my first click I am no longer in the mode to cast the spell even though I still have the key pressed on the keyboard. This only happens when my mouse is over a unit at the time that I select the spell by hitting the key on my keyboard.

I am using a Razer Abyssus with the Razer drivers.

Video demonstration. I'm certain I'm holding the 'f' key down the whole time, and not making a right click.

Do others experience this problem? If so, how have you coped?

Mods: If this does not warrant a thread then please close.

Edit: fixed to right click

Hulavuta

United States1252 Posts

March 01 2012 01:56 GMT

Shouldn't this be in Tech Support or something?

MentalGNT

Denmark1264 Posts

March 01 2012 02:03 GMT

Have you tried increasing your keyboard repeat rate? I think that should fix it.

skatbone

United States1005 Posts

March 01 2012 02:20 GMT

I watched the video but it wasn't helpful in demonstrating the problem.

Perhaps this is a tech issue for you as you claim you are holding the spell key down the whole time. For me, I have a smilar problem but I've determined that it only happens when I actually click the opponents unit...at least I think that's what happens. When I try to storm mutas or feedback infestors, I routinely find myself clicking only to realize I have a muta or infestor selected. I don't think it's a tech issue for me. You claim you "mouse over a unit"...are you referring to an opponents unit?

phfantunes

Brazil170 Posts

March 01 2012 02:29 GMT

Maybe you don't have enough energy? Your forcefield button isn't highlighted in the video as it should be even when selecting a group of units iirc.

Imbaman

Singapore15 Posts

March 01 2012 02:34 GMT

You can hold down the shift key while casting, so that you do not leave the spell casting mode, like how zergs do the backspace inject method. What probably happened is you left clicked on the enemy unit after casting the first force field but before the key press for the next force field is registered.

phantaxx

United States201 Posts

March 01 2012 02:35 GMT

Probably just an issue with the repeat delay on key presses, by default its about half a second delay, so if you press F then immediately try to forcefield more than once in that half second of repeat delay it will be treated as a regular left click. You can change the delay in the control panel.

UmiNotsuki

United States633 Posts

March 01 2012 02:47 GMT

I use the Abyssus, too, and have never had this problem. I don't think it's a mouse issue, probably a software or user issue.

orangesunglasses

United States110 Posts

March 01 2012 02:58 GMT

there is 2 problems

one you are supposed to use f click f click for forcefields which is technically the inferior way to ff but the current only way. as you get better this wont be a problem

the other method is changing the keyboard repeat rate to fastest possible and hold F BEFORE hitting ff for around .3 seconds
you cannot do the "hold f forcefield method" without holding it slightly ahead of time

habermas

United Kingdom304 Posts

March 01 2012 03:01 GMT

#10

I used to have this problem as well. It happens when you hold down F and click on enemy unit during the period of time between the first forcefield and the moment the F key starts to get registered repeatedly. This has nothing to do with your hardware/drivers. To fix it simply decrease the repeat delay in keyboard settings as some others have mentioned.

Mstring

Australia510 Posts

March 01 2012 03:38 GMT

#11

I can't click fast enough such that I can't fit an 'F' in before each, so I just press it each time and never have problems.

Glastnost

16 Posts

March 01 2012 04:00 GMT

#12

Yeah I remember this being an issue back when I first started playing Starcraft. You'll actually find that just pressing f in between each click is better. Your placement will be better and you'll waste less energy. There's almost no way to lay down 4 force fields in less than one second accurately. Unless you have top 3 control haha.

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

March 01 2012 06:50 GMT

#13

Don't hold shift when you are casting. And the backspace inject thing is a completely different matter.

Check the delay rate in your keyboard settings. It makes a huge difference, and it's pretty obvious what I'm talking about when you open up 'keyboard settings'. Just set it to fastest, or least delay (whatever, you'll understand).

Leargle

United States173 Posts

March 01 2012 06:55 GMT

#14

Holding the "f" key should not make it keep casting force field. That is not how it works.

Holding shift is an option, although not one I subscribe to. I prefer to just hit f for each force field. You shouldn't just be spamming ff anyways; if you're thinking about the placements you need to hit f each time.

Kerwin

United States220 Posts

March 01 2012 07:07 GMT

#15

On March 01 2012 15:55 Leargle wrote:
Holding the "f" key should not make it keep casting force field. That is not how it works.

Holding shift is an option, although not one I subscribe to. I prefer to just hit f for each force field. You shouldn't just be spamming ff anyways; if you're thinking about the placements you need to hit f each time.

I can guarantee that holding "f" is the technique the pros use... if you have sentries selected, and then hold 'f' and every click isn't either resulting in a forcefield being placed or an error for no energy then your keyboards rate isn't high enough and needs to be turned up...

Tobberoth

Sweden6375 Posts

March 01 2012 08:20 GMT

#16

Why wouldn't you want to use shift? Seems like the vastly better option unless I'm missing something.

Imbaman

Singapore15 Posts

March 01 2012 08:23 GMT

#17

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Don't hold shift when you are casting. And the backspace inject thing is a completely different matter.

Check the delay rate in your keyboard settings. It makes a huge difference, and it's pretty obvious what I'm talking about when you open up 'keyboard settings'. Just set it to fastest, or least delay (whatever, you'll understand).

It is not completely different. The backspace inject works because after injecting the first hatchery, the cursor is still in the inject mode, so that when you hit backspace and left click on the next hatchery, you inject it instead of selecting the hatchery, without having to hit the inject hotkey again. The same goes in this case, where if shift is held down, left clicking would cast a force field instead of selecting the enemy unit without having to hit the force field hotkey again.

Dhalphir

Australia1305 Posts

March 01 2012 08:23 GMT

#18

On March 01 2012 17:20 Tobberoth wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use shift? Seems like the vastly better option unless I'm missing something.

There is no difference between holding Shift F and just F except that if you hold Shift, your sentries will finish their current action before casting forcefield. Since this current action will often be a move or attack command, this can cause issues.

to the OP

Go into your windows keyboard settings and increase your keyboard repeat rate (how fast the key is repeated while being held down) to its fastest possible speed and decrease the key repeat delay (how long you have to hold it before it begins repeating it) to its minimum.

That should give you a big improvement.

FreeFruitFly

Australia29 Posts

March 01 2012 08:27 GMT

#19

On March 01 2012 17:20 Tobberoth wrote:
Why wouldn't you want to use shift? Seems like the vastly better option unless I'm missing something.

Shift messes up when another command has been given previously, which is a hassle.

Berailfor

441 Posts

March 01 2012 08:30 GMT

#20

On March 01 2012 16:07 Kerwin wrote:

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Lol I love it when people say I guarantee when really they're saying I speculate.

Actually I've heard many high level players say they f click individually. And I had that problem until I f clicked every FF. So yes if you can find that you can change the repeater rate high enough that holding down the button works 100% and your comfortable with it then do it. But personally for me it doesn't even feel comfortable holding now the button now and I couldn't imagine ever holding a button to cast spells. It feels so wrong now

Edit: and the to people saying to shift click. DEFINITELY DON'T DO THAT. It's asking for your sentries to go "okay I'll FF after I kill these enemies" and then you die to the roach/ling flood.

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