On December 01 2011 15:31 SpecialistSc wrote:
C. Don’t forget to A move
C. Don’t forget to A move
This was the part that I enjoyed the most
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
On December 01 2011 15:31 SpecialistSc wrote: C. Don’t forget to A move This was the part that I enjoyed the most | ||
MoreFaSho
United States1427 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:34 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2011 15:44 coL.rsvp wrote: This is a very nice 1-1-1 variant. At least for me, the way I defend 1-1-1 is to use as few stalkers as possible, and just go mass zealot with some immo/sentry support. However, the early hellion drop forces more stalkers from the protoss player which makes the all-in that much stronger. This build is countered in the same way a normal 1-1-1 is countered (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250379), except the trick is to not over make stalkers and rely on zealot/immo/sentry in the face of hellions. Hellions don't really counter zealots. Here's a game I just played against this build: http://drop.sc/67279 A protoss player admitting that hellions suck against zealots. Praise the lord almighty, i'm glad a good level protoss finally fessed up about it on the forums, as many forum warriors will randomly come up in mech/hellion threads saying that hellions are good against zealots lmao. Sorry, just had to comment on that, as it's a misconception that hellions are good against zealots when they actually suck. Go to the unit tester and try 15 hellions against 10 stalkers. Hellions are really good against tier 1 protoss. Edit: They are however pretty food inefficient. | ||
TylerThaCreator
United States906 Posts
(you're still a bm jerk though) | ||
Aosi
Canada43 Posts
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
justin.tv/specialistsc or specialistsc in unfeatured tl.net | ||
seizmik
Canada5 Posts
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Lemonerer
Israel135 Posts
if u wall off and bunker behind it, not only u are safe against proxy gates and fast 1zealot 1stalker push, u also dont need to worry about getting a second bunker versus a 4gate. any reason for not walling? | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
On December 12 2011 15:20 Lemonerer wrote: thx for the guide i will try this, also i have a question, if u wall off and bunker behind it, not only u are safe against proxy gates and fast 1zealot 1stalker push, u also dont need to worry about getting a second bunker versus a 4gate. any reason for not walling? um I wall in... just not at the beginning | ||
Lemonerer
Israel135 Posts
On December 12 2011 16:29 SpecialistSc wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 15:20 Lemonerer wrote: thx for the guide i will try this, also i have a question, if u wall off and bunker behind it, not only u are safe against proxy gates and fast 1zealot 1stalker push, u also dont need to worry about getting a second bunker versus a 4gate. any reason for not walling? um I wall in... just not at the beginning yea ive seen some reps, but i mean if u wallin at the beggining it seems like it hard counters 4gate and proxy, 2 things u said u can lose to if u dont watch out anywy going to try it thank you ![]() | ||
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Squigly
United Kingdom629 Posts
On December 12 2011 17:31 Lemonerer wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 16:29 SpecialistSc wrote: On December 12 2011 15:20 Lemonerer wrote: thx for the guide i will try this, also i have a question, if u wall off and bunker behind it, not only u are safe against proxy gates and fast 1zealot 1stalker push, u also dont need to worry about getting a second bunker versus a 4gate. any reason for not walling? um I wall in... just not at the beginning yea ive seen some reps, but i mean if u wallin at the beggining it seems like it hard counters 4gate and proxy, 2 things u said u can lose to if u dont watch out anywy going to try it thank you ![]() Try defending a 3 gate void with a wall. Then youll see why theres no wall at the start. | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
On December 14 2011 11:31 Squigly wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 17:31 Lemonerer wrote: On December 12 2011 16:29 SpecialistSc wrote: On December 12 2011 15:20 Lemonerer wrote: thx for the guide i will try this, also i have a question, if u wall off and bunker behind it, not only u are safe against proxy gates and fast 1zealot 1stalker push, u also dont need to worry about getting a second bunker versus a 4gate. any reason for not walling? um I wall in... just not at the beginning yea ive seen some reps, but i mean if u wallin at the beggining it seems like it hard counters 4gate and proxy, 2 things u said u can lose to if u dont watch out anywy going to try it thank you ![]() Try defending a 3 gate void with a wall. Then youll see why theres no wall at the start. word, and also, the probe harass at the beginning is annoying when you pre-emptively wall in at the beginning | ||
LeafBlower
United States115 Posts
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Bale
6 Posts
And i think this build counters 3 gate void allin. Just cancel the medivac and produce viking/s. im fine with this. what you are think? | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
fpvod of me executing this build vs GM toss | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
On January 07 2012 07:06 Bale wrote: I dont no why a wall with rax at the beginning is bad? i always wall in with rax, produce 3 marines, lift a little bit away and build a reactor. Just put a bunker in the wall and im fine and in the same situation as you. And i think this build counters 3 gate void allin. Just cancel the medivac and produce viking/s. im fine with this. what you are think? it's really a personal preference | ||
Endrew
Poland73 Posts
![]() I'm mid Diamond on EU and been having huge problems with TvP lately (like 20% WR probably). With this build, for the last 2 days I only lost 1 game.(my fault, didn't lift depo in time). Finally, it's now Tosses who RQ after playing me ![]() | ||
perser84
Germany399 Posts
On January 08 2012 07:42 SpecialistSc wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/TerranSpecialistSC2?feature=mhee#p/u/0/Xi0dbf8mbTU fpvod of me executing this build vs GM toss good tatic worth to try it out but lets say you cant kill 5 drones does it mean you loose with that ? what is if the toss builded more sentri/stalker no robo | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
On January 15 2012 06:14 Endrew wrote: Wow, I can't emphasize how much I love this build ![]() I'm mid Diamond on EU and been having huge problems with TvP lately (like 20% WR probably). With this build, for the last 2 days I only lost 1 game.(my fault, didn't lift depo in time). Finally, it's now Tosses who RQ after playing me ![]() ty hopefully more ppl will try this out! | ||
Specialist
United States803 Posts
On January 15 2012 12:48 perser84 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2012 07:42 SpecialistSc wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/TerranSpecialistSC2?feature=mhee#p/u/0/Xi0dbf8mbTU fpvod of me executing this build vs GM toss good tatic worth to try it out but lets say you cant kill 5 drones does it mean you loose with that ? what is if the toss builded more sentri/stalker no robo no you can still come back with scv push and for 2nd q, then it's easy win | ||
c0se
Germany148 Posts
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