This thread has lead to more 6 pools on ladder

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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
This thread has lead to more 6 pools on ladder ![]() | ||
Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On November 19 2011 00:36 Bad_Habit wrote: Show nested quote + On November 19 2011 00:04 Cascade wrote: I have not read the 28 pages, so sorry if i repeat, but here are a few question to you habit: 1) You say that many of your loses are from people blind countering you. Which means that you are well above 50% winrate vs "normal" openings. Where with "normal" I mean according to todays metagame. Is this because ---a) people dont know how to react to it when it comes, or ---b) the current metagame has too greedy openings? these strats are layed out to beat the standart strats from all races. not only the greedy openings. also i would say that u need a ton of micro and not just the strat. u will get in many different situations and u always have to react perfectly because this strat is not very forgiving I dont think you understood the question. ![]() Let me try to reformulate: If the pros start training how to execute these attacks, and also how to execute the defense, would it still have an above 50% winrate? If it would, it would force a change in metagame towards more defensive builds that can defend this rush more than 50% of the times. (it would change the Nash equilibrium if you know game theory. ![]() If it is enough for the pros to learn how to execute the defense (from a normal build) properly, then nothing will change, apart from the pros having to put in some extra training. | ||
Bad_Habit
Germany243 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
![]() So then you say that this will change the ZvZ and ZvT metagame at high level, as most of todays openers lose to your builds (assuming both sides execute well)? | ||
Bad_Habit
Germany243 Posts
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Nolot
United Kingdom271 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On November 19 2011 01:49 Bad_Habit wrote: no i gave an interview in germany where i mention that it wont change the proscene at all since they just dont care and feel confident with what they do. and that is good as it is But you think that a zerg pro that learned to execute these rushed would win most games with it as long as the other players didn't adapt their openings? You should get some zerg pro (TLO? ![]() ![]() If what you say is accurate, the zergs are giving away the advantage of allowing macro-cheese from T and Z almost every game. ![]() | ||
Bad_Habit
Germany243 Posts
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Steglich
Denmark282 Posts
I did some mistakes, but won anyway. Here's the rep! http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=242174 Including insults such as "you will never win against me", "pls go play tetris noob" and "u suck" - while he saw himself losing. EDIT: This was done in high masters by the way, so it is very possible to get to grandmaster by 6-7pooling, at least in ZvZ! | ||
Bad_Habit
Germany243 Posts
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Beardfish
United States525 Posts
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Bad_Habit
Germany243 Posts
On November 20 2011 01:16 Beardfish wrote: Thank you for this thread. I've gotten so many free wins from bad imitators it's not even funny. can i ask you what league u are in? just to see where they use my shiat :D | ||
Steglich
Denmark282 Posts
On November 20 2011 00:22 Bad_Habit wrote: a tip, dont commit to fast if he wouldnt have produced so many drones he would have won the game after u commited to early I have no idea what you are talking about (: But I know what I did wrong. It was the first (and probably only) time that I will do this. | ||
zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
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Makura
United States317 Posts
Then im watching cella's stream and he 6 pool drone pulls and kills a terran and im like.... maybe the terran was bad.... then he does it again... and im like fine ill read the thread | ||
nDragan
Canada31 Posts
On November 21 2011 16:00 zmansman17 wrote: I hate the fact that I see on this on ladder now as a result of this thread :/ u mad? | ||
Simonius
Germany98 Posts
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Beijer
Sweden28 Posts
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Shadrak
United States490 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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