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Flood1993
Profile Joined September 2011
Spain61 Posts
November 27 2011 23:04 GMT
#601
What is your W/L ratio against terran doing this? Cause in bronze every single terran wall ins extremely quick...
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 23:32:24
November 27 2011 23:29 GMT
#602
6 pooling is part of the game.
Meaning, it is a valid strategy.
It's your own fault for losing to 6 pool.
Give this guy some credit for making 6-7pool useful.
Doing same strategy over and over and over again can be very boring and frustrating, but he kept doing it to refine it.
Damn you zergs -___-

I guess its time for me to cheese every game with protoss
관광 since 2008. Master of Cheese. God of Heartbreak Ridge.
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
November 28 2011 00:28 GMT
#603
On November 28 2011 08:04 Flood1993 wrote:
What is your W/L ratio against terran doing this? Cause in bronze every single terran wall ins extremely quick...

There are bronze leaguers on TL? nice.
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
November 28 2011 00:37 GMT
#604
On November 09 2011 01:38 ppterodactyl wrote:
Further proving that Grandmaster means nothing.

User was warned for this post


Such a stupid ignorant point of view.

GM players are all really good. It just happens that Habit is better than them at one specific strategy that he spent a lot of time practicing and perfecting. That doesn't mean GM players are bad because they aren't experts in every single specialized area of the game... I'm sure if they all practiced against his 6pool they would rarely lose to it.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
November 28 2011 00:47 GMT
#605
Whitera the MannerDragon...
You can put all the explanation you want in the OP about how complexe 6/7 pool is, it's still not as complexe and doesn't require as much skill as playing a game lasting over 8 minutes.
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
November 28 2011 00:50 GMT
#606
On November 28 2011 09:47 sorrowptoss wrote:
Whitera the MannerDragon...
You can put all the explanation you want in the OP about how complexe 6/7 pool is, it's still not as complexe and doesn't require as much skill as playing a game lasting over 8 minutes.


But developing and refining a build like OP did (on his own) does take a lot of skill. Most Starcraft players follow some sort of a guide or steal a build from a pro. Being an innovator is something people don't appreciate enough because execution is such a huge part of the game.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 28 2011 01:19 GMT
#607
hehe since you can wall in with a pylon and a forge on ladder, i don't really see an issue with 6 pools on ladder. If someone looses to a 6 pool with ffe, they either were to greedy, or should learn more about how to ffe.
Even the ops 6 pool which is really well thought out is holdable with a huge advantage. And you need to know how to cheese, why not take the best build out their into your bo map.
It was actually fun to have a friend play it against me, now i feel 6 pool proof haha. But i learned ffe in bw the hard way, friend only saw a chance in winning by 6 pooling me >.<. And wallins are a bit harder in bw, well except of ramp blocks with probes.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 28 2011 08:37 GMT
#608
On November 28 2011 08:04 Flood1993 wrote:
What is your W/L ratio against terran doing this? Cause in bronze every single terran wall ins extremely quick...


i felt for quite a while that terran was my best mu with 6pooling. because i just completely break their normal timings.
arround 60-65% (what is a huge number, dont listen to threads like "hurghs 99% bo win vs terran with 3 motherships"
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 18:45:01
November 28 2011 17:32 GMT
#609
what do you do if zerg does fast pool like 8/10 pool? is it just auto loss, or do you still try to go for it?

what do you do against toss that doesn't wall off when going gate first but instead walls the choke where the zealot should be with probes?
Steglich
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 20:27:20
November 28 2011 20:16 GMT
#610
Edited, Wrong thread -.-
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 28 2011 23:43 GMT
#611
On November 29 2011 02:32 akalarry wrote:
what do you do if zerg does fast pool like 8/10 pool? is it just auto loss, or do you still try to go for it?

what do you do against toss that doesn't wall off when going gate first but instead walls the choke where the zealot should be with probes?


u rarely can win but i dont bother trying and leave most of the time, 12-14 is beatable
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
November 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#612
I just leave the game if I see a 6 pool. Have my ladder points, they mean absolutely nothing anyway. I just want to enjoy playing the game.
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
November 29 2011 06:56 GMT
#613
how in the world do you get 37 second 6 pool? I can get to 40 at the earliest.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 29 2011 07:12 GMT
#614
On November 29 2011 15:56 Seiferz wrote:
how in the world do you get 37 second 6 pool? I can get to 40 at the earliest.


good split/mineral statcking close mineral patches i would assume?
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10381 Posts
November 29 2011 07:17 GMT
#615
On November 29 2011 16:12 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 15:56 Seiferz wrote:
how in the world do you get 37 second 6 pool? I can get to 40 at the earliest.


good split/mineral statcking close mineral patches i would assume?


probably also if you have a better PC? so that you can start at 0:00 instead of like 0:01 lol or even worse sometimes T_T
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Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 07:51:52
November 29 2011 07:33 GMT
#616
On November 29 2011 16:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 16:12 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On November 29 2011 15:56 Seiferz wrote:
how in the world do you get 37 second 6 pool? I can get to 40 at the earliest.


good split/mineral statcking close mineral patches i would assume?


probably also if you have a better PC? so that you can start at 0:00 instead of like 0:01 lol or even worse sometimes T_T


yeah and internet i guess. on NA my pools come in general 3 seconds later than in europe,
when i really play my best (most of the time i dont really dronestack to the best) i usually get 38 or 39 seconds but 37 is definetly possible.

just tried if its still possible to ladder into master with this strats (didnt use them 100% but from time to time)

made 71-8 and account is in master now
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
November 29 2011 16:03 GMT
#617
i don't see how u can beat zvp if they cannon their main in time. would it just be map dependent?
Simonius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 16:31:12
November 29 2011 16:31 GMT
#618
On November 29 2011 16:33 Bad_Habit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 16:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 29 2011 16:12 jjhchsc2 wrote:
On November 29 2011 15:56 Seiferz wrote:
how in the world do you get 37 second 6 pool? I can get to 40 at the earliest.


good split/mineral statcking close mineral patches i would assume?


probably also if you have a better PC? so that you can start at 0:00 instead of like 0:01 lol or even worse sometimes T_T


yeah and internet i guess. on NA my pools come in general 3 seconds later than in europe,
when i really play my best (most of the time i dont really dronestack to the best) i usually get 38 or 39 seconds but 37 is definetly possible.

just tried if its still possible to ladder into master with this strats (didnt use them 100% but from time to time)

made 71-8 and account is in master now

You mind uploading a replay where you mangae to get at least 39 seconds?
deMONk
Profile Joined March 2011
45 Posts
November 29 2011 17:18 GMT
#619
Including other peoples rages just makes you fucking obnoxious.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 29 2011 17:25 GMT
#620
How could you cheese whitera?
;_;
poor WR
moo...for DRG
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