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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
April 10 2011 20:26 GMT
#61
Not sure there's enough value in getting into Masters to make a show about it.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
nocfg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4 Posts
April 10 2011 23:13 GMT
#62
On April 07 2011 10:49 Turgid wrote:
Cheese defense and matchup-specific scouting guides would probably help a lot of people.


totally this,
I started sc2 two weeks ago feeling quite confident and okay for my playtime, but in bronze so much cheese is going on, showing new player how to handle it and turn it into a win would be pretty nice!
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
April 10 2011 23:28 GMT
#63
their are 2 parts of holding cheese.

First is scouting. You should be scouting early enough to get in before wallins/marine/stalker but late enough to actually see the opponents gameplan w/out sacraficing too many minerals.

Secondly is knowing when you are ahead and when you can stop/start producing units to protect against the cheese. This also goes hand in hand w/ teching to protect against the cheese.

An easy way to hold cheese in bronze-gold is to constantly produce workers and supply so you are naturally ahead of your opponent. I would also advise to go for heavier barracks/gateway armies.
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 00:32:28
April 10 2011 23:54 GMT
#64
best line: "what are these hellions doing here they could be frying these drones which are just streaming in a line"

maybe blizz can implement a f2 hotkey for idle harrass units? (e.g. for speedlings, mutas, reapers, DTs)

PS. i watched all your vids...kinda sounds like day9's (watched all of those and going)

PPS. Terran is pretty hard for me...the constant production out of all the buildings is just a little crazy (i really wish blizz changes this and allows a selection for constant production when there's resource)... another thing with T is that it's so beneficial to do the drops, reaper harrass, and hellion harrass... i'm just not really into hurting my opponent and feel harrass is worse/more cowardly than cheese :3 i like the big push sorta thing and not the "in-and-out" feel

PPPS. T can also get map control...with sensor tower/PF/turret combo... and with marines... the supply depot costs more than the marine due to the time scv is not mining (39 minerals/min)...and losing the depot to a ling is not only humiliating but means you're back in the dark...while losing a marine frees up supply and can be easily replaced.
Let's Do This! Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!
Tudi
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania127 Posts
April 11 2011 00:55 GMT
#65
This was really nice, i liked how you explained your actions based on what you wanted to achieve, not just because you were following a preset build order or mindset. Way too often I find myself sending a scouting drone and not really paying attention to WHAT I'm scouting.

And also, because I'm zerg and I have the QQ gene and the BM-chromosome would you be so kind as to choose zerg for some of your tutorials? I know most people will say "what's the difference? The core mechanics are the same" but really, they aren't. Since with zerg your attention is spread among executing your build order, managing 2 hatcheries, checking your inject timing, scouting, creep spread and reacting to your opponent's tech choice.
FeastofKings
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
April 11 2011 03:04 GMT
#66
Great videos, thanks for taking the time to make them.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 11 2011 03:30 GMT
#67
Wow, thanks for these! Great videos.

Also,
On April 11 2011 08:54 IzieBoy wrote:
i really wish blizz changes this and allows a selection for constant production when there's resource

I chuckled.
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
April 11 2011 06:47 GMT
#68
On April 11 2011 08:54 IzieBoy wrote:

PS. i watched all your vids...kinda sounds like day9's (watched all of those and going)



People keep saying this and I'm really flattered but holy shit I'm nothing compared to day9 you guys are insane.
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Guppers
Profile Joined October 2010
United States94 Posts
April 11 2011 07:04 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2011 08:54 IzieBoy wrote:
best line: "what are these hellions doing here they could be frying these drones which are just streaming in a line"

maybe blizz can implement a f2 hotkey for idle harrass units? (e.g. for speedlings, mutas, reapers, DTs)

PS. i watched all your vids...kinda sounds like day9's (watched all of those and going)

PPS. Terran is pretty hard for me...the constant production out of all the buildings is just a little crazy (i really wish blizz changes this and allows a selection for constant production when there's resource)... another thing with T is that it's so beneficial to do the drops, reaper harrass, and hellion harrass... i'm just not really into hurting my opponent and feel harrass is worse/more cowardly than cheese :3 i like the big push sorta thing and not the "in-and-out" feel

PPPS. T can also get map control...with sensor tower/PF/turret combo... and with marines... the supply depot costs more than the marine due to the time scv is not mining (39 minerals/min)...and losing the depot to a ling is not only humiliating but means you're back in the dark...while losing a marine frees up supply and can be easily replaced.


if you have buildings making units for you you're halfway to having the game play itself for you
remember that anyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob, and anyone who has accomplished more has no life.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#70
Very good videos!! Keep on making them man I think you've got something going here. Ur talking style is interesting, high energy
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
April 11 2011 07:29 GMT
#71
saw first episode. you should use B for orbital command
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
April 11 2011 07:41 GMT
#72
On April 11 2011 16:29 TooN wrote:
saw first episode. you should use B for orbital command


Yeah I'm pretty bad I don't use keybinds for orbital/upgrades/salvage/or lift off land. Still trying to master simple mechanics myself
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KinneySL
Profile Joined February 2011
22 Posts
April 11 2011 07:49 GMT
#73
On April 08 2011 01:46 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 10:49 Turgid wrote:
Cheese defense and matchup-specific scouting guides would probably help a lot of people.


Cheese defense is usually nullified by having good macro since the cheesy leagues are usually the lower league. Lower league cheeses tend to come very late or not perfectly timed so with good macro you usually have more than necessary to defend the cheesy even if you dont scout. Of course it varies between the cheese but in general this is how it is from what i have seem
Even if you don't scout? Cheese defense is at least 50% scouting and realizing what things you see or don't see constitute red flags.
Tohrazer
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom75 Posts
April 11 2011 12:57 GMT
#74
do you have the replay of that mech tvz? i want the BO
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
April 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#75
On April 11 2011 21:57 Tohrazer wrote:
do you have the replay of that mech tvz? i want the BO

no lost it a while ago I'll pm you it through TL though
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Tohrazer
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom75 Posts
April 11 2011 18:43 GMT
#76
thanks
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 11 2011 20:09 GMT
#77
Wow, really enjoyable and informative 1st video.

Going to watch the rest now.
loazis
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands381 Posts
April 11 2011 20:43 GMT
#78
Good stuff, nothing too special but it's informative
There is no spoon.
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
April 13 2011 17:20 GMT
#79
Episode 4 about droning is here!


will also update top post with it
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Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
April 13 2011 20:05 GMT
#80
Also in light of the most recent state of the game I'm thinking about doing an episode on nydus worms. What do you guys think?
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