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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
You beat Slush, that is awesome! | ||
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loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
On April 04 2011 21:25 huytruong742 wrote: lol, did you watch the replay? ... you really have no idea how strong 3 hellions 7 marines with medivacs are lol I do it on the ladder all the time.. i'm master lvl.. and high up there, what are you? I'm in masters if thats relevant at all. And no, I really don't feel this push is strong. Without stim or blue flame it's just gonna die to zerglings. If I know its coming i can deny it pretty easily. Of course if you don't see it coming, you can be in trouble, but that can be said of basically all terran aggresion | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
The first push basically needs to do a ton of damage, and the rest of it is just formality at that point. | ||
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Saiton
Sweden467 Posts
On April 04 2011 23:00 Alejandrisha wrote: To everyone who is attacking this man's credibility- he is high masters and he knows a thing or 2 about marine scv all ins and thor all ins. I don't understand why he wouldn't know a thing or 2 about BC rushes. I've been getting kind of bored picking the same race every game and if I ever consider playing terran doing these kinds of things seem like they would be fun  Unless the guy opens tank viking and doesn't die to the inital harass it seems like this could be pretty potent with the speed increase. I've seen terrible people in master's. That proves nothing, and this seems like just another "Oh god, i hope he doesn't scout this!" tactics Still, respect for making it work and i hope it grants you more wins against unsuspecting zergs. | ||
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murkk
Canada154 Posts
What do you usually win with? How often to the BCs actually change the game? Do you usually win or lose the game after the drop or banshee harass? | ||
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Sunstrider
United States22 Posts
Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea of using flying units in tvz (at least it isn't marine/tank), I would love to see some replays! Sunstrider | ||
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Giwoon
Korea (South)431 Posts
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CrayonKing
Cambodia124 Posts
On April 05 2011 00:08 prOpSaiton wrote: I've seen terrible people in master's. That proves nothing, and this seems like just another "Oh god, i hope he doesn't scout this!" tactics. Sure there are terrible people in masters but top 200 I dont think so | ||
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TearDrop
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 05 2011 02:15 TearDrop wrote: I have faced this once and I lost to it, partly because I scouted it a bit late. I went for mutas and that was a huge mistake as they deal zero damage to battle cruisers. Fast hydras is probably the right answer, even though I don´t really like that you need such a long time to get up mutas if he decides to expo instead of allinning. The 'right' answer is a quick lair with immediate infestation pit after lair, followed by neural parasite to steal the BC and fungal growth to deal with the marines. This is quite rare, and it's probably too late by the time you scout the core. User was warned for this post | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
On April 05 2011 00:27 murkk wrote: Pride, What do you usually win with? How often to the BCs actually change the game? Do you usually win or lose the game after the drop or banshee harass? they usually die to my hellion and marine harass lol.. | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
On April 05 2011 01:25 Sunstrider wrote: The build seems like a good place to start, but, it seems to me at least that corruptors/mutas in moderate number would do extremely well against this build and then there would still be a bunch of slings on the ground, which has me ify on whether or not to try it out. Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea of using flying units in tvz (at least it isn't marine/tank), I would love to see some replays! Sunstrider i'll add in a few more replays soons. | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
On April 05 2011 02:33 Whitewing wrote: The 'right' answer is a quick lair with immediate infestation pit after lair, followed by neural parasite to steal the BC and fungal growth to deal with the marines. This is quite rare, and it's probably too late by the time you scout the core. won't work, here's a link where rootdestiny describes it all, though this is a 2 base bcs, worked really well http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/156012-1v1-terran-zerg-mlg-metalopolis | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
As for the build its self i think it is a very cool build for the reason zerg does not have very powerful anti-air early on, around what time does this build hit and is there any follow ups? Have you tried taking an early expo and then continuing this build? | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10345 Posts
top 200 with 70% success? sounds great :D I've seen terrible people in master's. That proves nothing, and this seems like just another "Oh god, i hope he doesn't scout this!" tactics uhh, that's how tvz works? if the z scouts something then he's in advantage, if t denies it then he's in advantage; there isn't much of a middle ground | ||
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EZmark
Canada31 Posts
I will say pre patch ( assuming this is post patch which it looked like from the replay )... the correct response to this build is mass queens since you can kite the BCs really really easy... obviously not the case post patch... still it doesnt take many hydras or corruptors to shut down this rush... I'd even do as far just massing roaches as soon as I seen the fusion core... if I scout double starport tech labs I ALWAYS go hydra den and skip spire because 2 port banshee is so annoying and easy to shut down with Hydras... Again never played this build post patch but pre patch this was easy to deal with... I sat in the high 3k area of masters last season. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On April 05 2011 02:36 huytruong742 wrote: they usually die to my hellion and marine harass lol.. I think this is the key point here. In order for your BC antics to do anything you need a very successful harass. But then again with a very successful harass you can win with just about anything. This thread should be renamed to something along the lines of "kill someone with marine/helion harass and finish them off with BC's cuz BC's are cool". | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
Poorly executed by me and I shouldn't have lost the cc but blah so i got irriated.. and all in him =P.. w/e  http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159237-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns Aisarang high master zerg | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
On April 05 2011 02:52 Pyo wrote: I think this is the key point here. In order for your BC antics to do anything you need a very successful harass. But then again with a very successful harass you can win with just about anything. This thread should be renamed to something along the lines of "kill someone with marine/helion harass and finish them off with BC's cuz BC's are cool". watch this replay just i played recently. my harass got shut down by roaches http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159237-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns | ||
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PrideTV
Vietnam434 Posts
On April 04 2011 20:43 huytruong742 wrote: (ROOTSlush) 1 base bc http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/156008-1v1-terran-zerg-delta-quadrant (Aisarang) 1 base bc http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/159237-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns (ROOTDestiny) 2 base bc http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/156012-1v1-terran-zerg-mlg-metalopolis ( Build order can only go so far, watch the replay ) Build order: 10 supply 13 refin. 15 orbital The idea of this build is to do enough harass, stall enough time to get your bcs up and running. -Factory as soon as you hit 100 gas *grab second gas* *build hellion* -Starport as soon as Factory is completed - Build 1 medivac as soon as Starport is completed - Push out with 2 scvs on autorepair, 3 hellions, 6-8 marines [ assuming you never stopped your marine production] -build core as soon as you push out, put up another starport. -tech lab on both starport -build first banshee to harass PUMP out the first bc when you have even resources -Push out with the first bc with banshee support -start production on 2nd bc and from here, vikings/banshee depending on situation I'm on my laptop currently, updating this tomorrow with more links to replays NEED to sleep night night let me know what you guys think -Pride | ||
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