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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 16:16:11
March 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#41
Seems very inefficient to me. I'd rather not spend 100 minerals, 200 gas, and 60 seconds of build time on a unit that can only deny broodlings for 20 seconds. Not to mention, they'll be essentially useless in the inevitable transition to ultras. You mention harassing with auto-turrets, but flying around with a couple ravens is just about the quickest possible way to lose hundreds of gas to easily massable mutalisks.

Also, thors are fairly awful against broodlords, even if they aren't getting broodlinged to death. Their attack is just too slow and broodlords don't suffer from clumping like mutas do.

To me, the money and time is better spent building dual vikings from a reactor'ed starport.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
March 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#42
Since they also work against Corruptors, there's no reasonable way for the Zerg to take this down in a standard TvZ lategame battle. Anything else gets hit by tank fire.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
March 27 2011 16:17 GMT
#43
Could be, rather than getting vikings just a few Ravens could do it... Very interesting. :D
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 16:24:33
March 27 2011 16:20 GMT
#44
+1 This is AMAZING if it works - will test it more extensively in unit tester. Almost anything is better than making vikings. The durable materials will finally have some real viability - 6 minute PDDs is lolz.
griffith.583 (NA)
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 16:27:02
March 27 2011 16:26 GMT
#45
Ravens obviously will not substitute for vikings, which actually kill broodlords, but ravens certainly won't allow zerg to spawn tens of broodlings in your tank line. Broodlords will not be able to force you to unsiege all your tanks if you can squeeze in one or two ravens.

edit: broodlord no longer a "trench breaking" unit vs terran?
fuck lag
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
March 27 2011 16:27 GMT
#46
On March 28 2011 01:15 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Seems very inefficient to me. I'd rather not spend 100 minerals, 200 gas, and 60 seconds of build time on a unit that can only deny broodlings for 20 seconds. Not to mention, they'll be essentially useless in the inevitable transition to ultras. You mention harassing with auto-turrets, but flying around with a couple ravens is just about the quickest possible way to lose hundreds of gas to easily massable mutalisks.

Also, thors are fairly awful against broodlords, even if they aren't getting broodlinged to death. Their attack is just too slow and broodlords don't suffer from clumping like mutas do.

To me, the money and time is better spent building dual vikings from a reactor'ed starport.



Dual reactor starport is the faster way to lose to ultas, Pop out 15 vikings just in time, to kill 6 BL's and watch your army get rollled by ultas.
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
Gracksaurusrex
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom171 Posts
March 27 2011 16:28 GMT
#47
Ghosts with snipe are amazing against brood lords
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
March 27 2011 16:29 GMT
#48
Pdd's block broodlings wow didnt know that :o
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
March 27 2011 16:30 GMT
#49
That's hilarious.
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
March 27 2011 16:30 GMT
#50
A raven can store up energy, and durable materials will provide you with an almost endless supply of point defense drones. PDD with durable materials lasts 360 seconds. In that time, you will be able to regenerate 200 energy on your raven - meaning a single raven would be able to keep up 2 PDD persistently's for the ENTIRE game.
griffith.583 (NA)
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 27 2011 16:30 GMT
#51
Actually now that I think about it, you wouldn't even need vikings with this. Tank/marine+3-4 ravens, toss down PDDs, stim and run the marines up and snipe the BLs. Marines are actually really good against BL's, they just have trouble when theres a lot because of the broodlings
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
abominable
Profile Joined March 2011
101 Posts
March 27 2011 16:32 GMT
#52
occasionally scout / scan his spire... greater spire - make vikings.

ravens are really good if you have spare gas to use, but even if you use PDD you still need vikings to kill them...
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 27 2011 16:33 GMT
#53
What a fantastic find! The Tanks can remain sieged while the Thors(with superior upgrades and scv repair) fight the Broodlords! No more Vikings spam and Ultra switch to auto win! Mech just became a lot stronger vs Zerg. Yey!
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
abominable
Profile Joined March 2011
101 Posts
March 27 2011 16:33 GMT
#54
On March 28 2011 01:30 1Eris1 wrote:
Actually now that I think about it, you wouldn't even need vikings with this. Tank/marine+3-4 ravens, toss down PDDs, stim and run the marines up and snipe the BLs. Marines are actually really good against BL's, they just have trouble when theres a lot because of the broodlings


the zerg doesn't have a ground army? :D
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 27 2011 16:36 GMT
#55
On March 28 2011 01:33 abominable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 01:30 1Eris1 wrote:
Actually now that I think about it, you wouldn't even need vikings with this. Tank/marine+3-4 ravens, toss down PDDs, stim and run the marines up and snipe the BLs. Marines are actually really good against BL's, they just have trouble when theres a lot because of the broodlings


the zerg doesn't have a ground army? :D



Notice the tank part
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
BigOleDonkey
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
March 27 2011 16:40 GMT
#56
Haha I didn't know this either. I clicked on the thread expecting to hear someone suggesting to HSM the broodlords. Learn something new every day.
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
March 27 2011 16:42 GMT
#57
i wanna see a vid of this
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
March 27 2011 16:46 GMT
#58
I love this kind of news, really shows people "hey, we DON'T know everything yet!" since some people seem to have fallen into some sense of "well the game is figured out, that's why we have standard plays duhh" which is completely false.

We still know next to nothing about this game.

Wonderful find good Mr, OP.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
abominable
Profile Joined March 2011
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 17:15:41
March 27 2011 16:50 GMT
#59
LOL i see what you did there OP.


spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
april fools gag, it doesnt work


edit: my bad it does work
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
March 27 2011 16:57 GMT
#60
On March 28 2011 01:50 abominable wrote:
LOL i see what you did there OP.


spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
april fools gag, it doesnt work

yes it does
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
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