Hey guys,
I'm a EU 3100 points zerg on the platinum ladder. I play macro oriented games (14 pool, 15 hatch etc.). But in the last time that became boring and i want to play more cheese oriented. Can you name me some cheese builds??. Because i need the exact build order.

THX for all <3

StateSC2

Korea (South)621 Posts

March 21 2011 20:03 GMT

Hello!

Liquipedia has a plethora (sp?) of fun builds you can try. Here are a couple:

6 Pool
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/6_pool

5 Roach Rush (ZvT)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/5_Roach_Rush_(vs._Terran)

5 Roach Rush (ZvP)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/5_Roach_Rush_(vs._Protoss)

Baneling Bust (ZvT)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Baneling_Bust
There's no Baneling Bust ZvP guide that I've seen, but it's basically the same idea.

For more, just visit:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Zerg_Strategy#Cheese

Best of luck!

zLnoEk

United States95 Posts

March 21 2011 20:27 GMT

you can try la wzpinha rush xD
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190292

HomicidaL

United States283 Posts

March 21 2011 20:44 GMT

click the link zlnoek posted, I went on a 20 game win streak vs toss on that cause I cant stand late game vs P, however I dont cheese terran or zergs

P0ckets

United States430 Posts

March 21 2011 21:12 GMT

Against toss the best type of cheese would be to do a 14 pool/ 15 proxy hatch at his natural or to the side of his natural and just build spines/queens/speedlings and push into his base.

Against Terran the 7RR is a pretty nice option since you can catch him before he gets too many tanks out.

Against other Zergs doing 6-9 pool with 8 ling rush + spine crawlers at his base. The later the pool the more spines you should use, so 6-7 pool = 1 spine + 8 lings and 8-9 = 2 spines + 8 lings. Be sure to user extractor trick. Then just keep rally lings.

zezamer

Finland5701 Posts

March 21 2011 21:13 GMT

" Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny"

Chill

Calgary25986 Posts

March 21 2011 21:16 GMT

TL isn't Yahoo Answers. "Yo I need exact build orders for Zerg cheese" isn't an acceptable thread here.

Varpulis

United States2517 Posts

March 21 2011 21:23 GMT

umm, Chill, you didn't close the thread...

PeaNuT_T

Sweden326 Posts

March 21 2011 21:23 GMT

You should try doing some roach pressure not talking about roach rushes but just pressure with 10-15 roaches while expanding if you still wanna macro but wanna do some sort of pressure builds to spice it up.

Terminator(471)

United States243 Posts

March 21 2011 21:32 GMT

#10

Search before you post. Did you even read the guidelines?

Staboteur

Canada1873 Posts

March 21 2011 21:34 GMT

#11

Map dependant, in-their-base hatch versus a protoss that goes forge FE is hilarious. If they don't scout it before you get a spine or two up, you get to amass a queen, a bunch of zerglings and a spinecrawler or two in their base, and basically sack their main for free. Map dependant, you can creep spread and spinecrawler down the cliffs into their natural, as well.

Also fun vP is bringing two drones to scout ~9 food on 1v1 maps (or when you know where they are), stealing both the protoss' gas and transitioning into a baneling bust. If you take both their gas, they can get nothing but zealots or cannons to defend, neither of which hold up very handily against banelings and cleanup zerglings.

Timestreamer

Israel157 Posts

March 21 2011 21:38 GMT

#12

Just from the top of my head(just search these on youtube)
- proxy hatch(only works if his main isn't scouted)
- proxy double evo chamber
- proxy 8 pool(only works if your main is scouted)

Lots of fun there

OzkanTheFlip

United States246 Posts

March 21 2011 21:53 GMT

#13

On March 22 2011 05:27 zLnoEk wrote:
you can try la wzpinha rush xD
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190292

EXTREMLY RECOMENDED IF YOUR LOOKING FOR AN EASY WIN! i got a 100% win ratio with it right now against toss of course tho

Xapti

Canada2473 Posts

March 21 2011 22:01 GMT

#14

Zerg doesn't really have much cheese.

-You can baneling rush a terran
or
-some form of roach/roach-ling rush protoss.

SubtleArt

2710 Posts

March 21 2011 22:13 GMT

#15

The baneling bust I use is 14 gas --> 14 pool --> drone to 15 --> overlord --> queen ---> speed at 100 gas ---> baneling while making all lings after 15 supply. Comes slightly later than a baneling bust with 12 or 11 pool but the difference is pretty small and I get a better economy with it. Its surprisingly effective vs Zerg cause you can continue massing lings or transition with the second set of spawned larva, depending on how the push is going. I'm 6-1 in my last 7 ZvZs at high diamond / low masters with it and in only 2 of those wins did the bust not kill him or rape his drone line.

vs T I find the seconds matter a lot more so an 11 pool bust might be better, except 14 gas its a million times less suspicious and easier to disguise as a harmless expand.

This is the cheese I use in ZvP. It requires very little micro and is surprisingly effective
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190292

FooDSoldOne

Germany27 Posts

March 22 2011 14:21 GMT

#16

THX thats are many builds
Of course i will try the 3 roach speedling rush and some early pressure like PeaNuT_T said

SladeR

Canada61 Posts

March 22 2011 14:24 GMT

#17

Yeah 3 roach speedling is quite damn good. Protoss either had to cut probes early to get earlier gateways (which a plat diamond player wont do as he always thinks probes and pylons) or do one of the other ways of defending it.

Roach/baneling all in ZvZ is quite good also.

FooDSoldOne

Germany27 Posts

March 23 2011 06:52 GMT

#18

yeah maybe but Roach B-Ling is very hard to play against mass speedling
because he can make a runby and the you are fucked and in Plat all Zergs play in ZvZ mass speedling

lorkac

United States2297 Posts

March 23 2011 07:25 GMT

#19

The first step to Zerg cheese is milking the queen.