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FluoCrazyKenny
Profile Joined July 2011
France90 Posts
April 12 2021 14:05 GMT
#17921
Is there a tutorial or a post somewhere that can help me with positioning the three or five first overlords for maximum scout efficiency (and safely if possible) for each map, especially the new ones ?

I am generally clueless after putting one near the natural and the second one near the third. I would really love to know where it is the best way to scout incoming attacks and/or base scout.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
April 14 2021 13:14 GMT
#17922
I don't know of a single source for this.

All I can do is give a couple general advices:
ZvP and ZvT: You want one or maximum two ovi on their side. One usually at the natural HG, and the second one ready to go in for in-base scout. The rest is usually done with well placed lings (3rd, 4th, land exit and air exits of his base).
The is are used to help you push your creep, so you push them about one creep tumour further than your current creep to spot lurking units (adepts and hellions mostly).

ZvZ: Mostly on the whole paths between you and your opponent, ready to be brought back if mutas.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 31 2021 06:06 GMT
#17923
What's the best way to learn Disruptor micro? I feel like any game I get them I spend too much time messing around with them I get fucked. And meanwhile my opponent is actually trying to play the game so I don't have much opportunity to stall the game while I play with the unit and try not to otherwise die.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
May 31 2021 07:41 GMT
#17924
Best one is to have someone to play practice games against. This way to you can coordinate what kind of composition you want to face and practice in different contexts (down or up a ramp, in a choke, in the open, defensive or offensive position and so on).
Using the 'resume from replay' can also help with this.

Otherwise you can try the unit tester. There is an option to have the opposite army 'A-move', so you can pre-position/split it and then hide it so you only have vision and control of your own units and you start his a-move or keep them hold-position.
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
June 08 2021 09:38 GMT
#17925
Ran into a guy on NA ladder twice with 790 APM and he only built roaches both games. Is this an AI or do NA diamond leaguers have 790 APM nowadays?
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-08 13:43:24
June 08 2021 13:41 GMT
#17926
On June 08 2021 18:38 Banchan wrote:
Ran into a guy on NA ladder twice with 790 APM and he only built roaches both games. Is this an AI or do NA diamond leaguers have 790 APM nowadays?


Likely some kind of cheat/AI, if you look at their pov from replay you might see massive amounts of spam clicking in the same location
Some accounts have a bug which shows the wrong apm but I've never heard of even the "fastest" progamer going above 700
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
June 08 2021 21:49 GMT
#17927
The only legit way I could see this happening would be by actively dedicating time all game long to just increase APM using some spamable commands with the keyboard repeat rate.
rohitjadhav
Profile Joined June 2021
1 Post
June 18 2021 11:58 GMT
#17928
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
August 22 2021 14:22 GMT
#17929
What's the standard Protoss opener for each matchup right now?
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
jodljodl
Profile Joined October 2016
151 Posts
September 04 2021 09:19 GMT
#17930
On June 08 2021 22:41 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2021 18:38 Banchan wrote:
Ran into a guy on NA ladder twice with 790 APM and he only built roaches both games. Is this an AI or do NA diamond leaguers have 790 APM nowadays?


Likely some kind of cheat/AI, if you look at their pov from replay you might see massive amounts of spam clicking in the same location
Some accounts have a bug which shows the wrong apm but I've never heard of even the "fastest" progamer going above 700


On June 09 2021 06:49 AbouSV wrote:
The only legit way I could see this happening would be by actively dedicating time all game long to just increase APM using some spamable commands with the keyboard repeat rate.


I don't know if it's still the case but i believe there was a time when some ~none-standard create-command-group command inflated apm massively. (I think that's a reason why TLO had very high apm iirc.). Also, wouldn't it be possible just to rapid fire some useless command like move command?

So i think AbouSV is spot on
Kim Doh Woo
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
September 05 2021 13:31 GMT
#17931
On September 04 2021 18:19 jodljodl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2021 22:41 ArtyK wrote:
On June 08 2021 18:38 Banchan wrote:
Ran into a guy on NA ladder twice with 790 APM and he only built roaches both games. Is this an AI or do NA diamond leaguers have 790 APM nowadays?


Likely some kind of cheat/AI, if you look at their pov from replay you might see massive amounts of spam clicking in the same location
Some accounts have a bug which shows the wrong apm but I've never heard of even the "fastest" progamer going above 700


Show nested quote +
On June 09 2021 06:49 AbouSV wrote:
The only legit way I could see this happening would be by actively dedicating time all game long to just increase APM using some spamable commands with the keyboard repeat rate.


I don't know if it's still the case but i believe there was a time when some ~none-standard create-command-group command inflated apm massively. (I think that's a reason why TLO had very high apm iirc.). Also, wouldn't it be possible just to rapid fire some useless command like move command?

So i think AbouSV is spot on


AI's doing only roaches with massive apm is not new, and as I said, even a real player spamming like crazy shouldn't be able to maintain 790 apm, especially in diamond. Because you eventually have to manage stuff that don't allow to rapidfire randomly
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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jodljodl
Profile Joined October 2016
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 11:45:36
September 07 2021 09:44 GMT
#17932
On September 05 2021 22:31 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2021 18:19 jodljodl wrote:
On June 08 2021 22:41 ArtyK wrote:
On June 08 2021 18:38 Banchan wrote:
Ran into a guy on NA ladder twice with 790 APM and he only built roaches both games. Is this an AI or do NA diamond leaguers have 790 APM nowadays?


Likely some kind of cheat/AI, if you look at their pov from replay you might see massive amounts of spam clicking in the same location
Some accounts have a bug which shows the wrong apm but I've never heard of even the "fastest" progamer going above 700


On June 09 2021 06:49 AbouSV wrote:
The only legit way I could see this happening would be by actively dedicating time all game long to just increase APM using some spamable commands with the keyboard repeat rate.


I don't know if it's still the case but i believe there was a time when some ~none-standard create-command-group command inflated apm massively. (I think that's a reason why TLO had very high apm iirc.). Also, wouldn't it be possible just to rapid fire some useless command like move command?

So i think AbouSV is spot on


AI's doing only roaches with massive apm is not new, and as I said, even a real player spamming like crazy shouldn't be able to maintain 790 apm, especially in diamond. Because you eventually have to manage stuff that don't allow to rapidfire randomly



You probably right I was just doing some guesswork;
but goddamnit, now i wanna test it; so it seems i have to reinstall sc2. But not on my laptop; I promised it'll stay game-free
Kim Doh Woo
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-02 19:21:02
December 02 2021 19:20 GMT
#17933
anyone have any tips for beating mass-raven in TVT? I'm diamond 2 and get so annoyed by super turtling terrans that just mass raven and drop a billion auto turrets on everything that I usually beat myself
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
LokPest
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway21 Posts
June 05 2022 13:30 GMT
#17934
Question:
Why would, players build 1 worker and then quit the game? pls IGNORE Real Life random reasons



never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
xen64
Profile Joined June 2022
3 Posts
June 05 2022 21:38 GMT
#17935
Is there a way to bind SPACEBAR + 1 to jump to camera location 1? Seems like a really fast way to switch cameras, but apparently you can't bind it like that. (I'm a noob)
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary386 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-07 13:21:22
June 06 2022 20:10 GMT
#17936
On June 06 2022 06:38 xen64 wrote:
Is there a way to bind SPACEBAR + 1 to jump to camera location 1? Seems like a really fast way to switch cameras, but apparently you can't bind it like that. (I'm a noob)


in game, there is no way.
you need an optional combination of modifier keys (alt, shift, ctrl) with an ordinary key or mouse button.
eg. [ alt+shift ] + A .

there are some external programs which might be able to rebind your space key temporarily to one of those modifiers, but I don't know them.
check this for more info (the core doc on modifier rebinding / swapping) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aKCnVl90qck6HbSLQD3jw11bleuVBqtLpYSUb4rsvtI/edit .

--
maybe you should try using alt+1, alt+2, etc?

edit: pros use f1..f4, it is helpful to find a keyboard which has smaller gap between the 1..9 and f1..f12 key rows.
xen64
Profile Joined June 2022
3 Posts
June 08 2022 00:16 GMT
#17937
On June 07 2022 05:10 bela.mervado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2022 06:38 xen64 wrote:
Is there a way to bind SPACEBAR + 1 to jump to camera location 1? Seems like a really fast way to switch cameras, but apparently you can't bind it like that. (I'm a noob)


in game, there is no way.
you need an optional combination of modifier keys (alt, shift, ctrl) with an ordinary key or mouse button.
eg. [ alt+shift ] + A .

there are some external programs which might be able to rebind your space key temporarily to one of those modifiers, but I don't know them.
check this for more info (the core doc on modifier rebinding / swapping) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aKCnVl90qck6HbSLQD3jw11bleuVBqtLpYSUb4rsvtI/edit .

--
maybe you should try using alt+1, alt+2, etc?

edit: pros use f1..f4, it is helpful to find a keyboard which has smaller gap between the 1..9 and f1..f12 key rows.


Good info. Thanks. I thought about using Synapse but maybe I'm just better off using F keys like normal
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany628 Posts
June 08 2022 00:18 GMT
#17938
On June 08 2022 09:16 xen64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2022 05:10 bela.mervado wrote:
On June 06 2022 06:38 xen64 wrote:
Is there a way to bind SPACEBAR + 1 to jump to camera location 1? Seems like a really fast way to switch cameras, but apparently you can't bind it like that. (I'm a noob)


in game, there is no way.
you need an optional combination of modifier keys (alt, shift, ctrl) with an ordinary key or mouse button.
eg. [ alt+shift ] + A .

there are some external programs which might be able to rebind your space key temporarily to one of those modifiers, but I don't know them.
check this for more info (the core doc on modifier rebinding / swapping) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aKCnVl90qck6HbSLQD3jw11bleuVBqtLpYSUb4rsvtI/edit .

--
maybe you should try using alt+1, alt+2, etc?

edit: pros use f1..f4, it is helpful to find a keyboard which has smaller gap between the 1..9 and f1..f12 key rows.


Good info. Thanks. I thought about using Synapse but maybe I'm just better off using F keys like normal


google autokey. Its made for remapping keys and creating macros.
xen64
Profile Joined June 2022
3 Posts
June 09 2022 05:33 GMT
#17939
On June 08 2022 09:18 alpenrahm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2022 09:16 xen64 wrote:
On June 07 2022 05:10 bela.mervado wrote:
On June 06 2022 06:38 xen64 wrote:
Is there a way to bind SPACEBAR + 1 to jump to camera location 1? Seems like a really fast way to switch cameras, but apparently you can't bind it like that. (I'm a noob)


in game, there is no way.
you need an optional combination of modifier keys (alt, shift, ctrl) with an ordinary key or mouse button.
eg. [ alt+shift ] + A .

there are some external programs which might be able to rebind your space key temporarily to one of those modifiers, but I don't know them.
check this for more info (the core doc on modifier rebinding / swapping) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aKCnVl90qck6HbSLQD3jw11bleuVBqtLpYSUb4rsvtI/edit .

--
maybe you should try using alt+1, alt+2, etc?

edit: pros use f1..f4, it is helpful to find a keyboard which has smaller gap between the 1..9 and f1..f12 key rows.


Good info. Thanks. I thought about using Synapse but maybe I'm just better off using F keys like normal


google autokey. Its made for remapping keys and creating macros.


Are you talking about autohotkey? i googled autokey and got a linux program. apparently autohotkey would work fine
mrfurniture5e
Profile Joined June 2022
United Arab Emirates1 Post
June 21 2022 13:02 GMT
#17940
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