EPTAny tips on how to beat them or what "counters" roach hydra lurker
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
Any tips on how to beat them or what "counters" roach hydra lurker | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On November 12 2015 07:02 Chronos. wrote: Are lurkers viable in lotv? If so what matchups / situations are they used in? I've been out of the scene for a while and haven't really seen any lurkers after watching some streams. from what i've seen, they are often used in pvz. I can't really say more, given that' as a terran my knowledge of pvz is quite limited :p | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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HyDrA_solic
Portugal491 Posts
On November 12 2015 13:48 HyDrA_solic wrote: How do I beat 8gate adept all in, the timing hits @4.30min I really am losing in it here, former top masters in HotS.. can't seem to get a grip on LotV since I didn't played the beta. + Show Spoiler + How are you opening atm? This build was absolutely terrible to hold in Beta, with 90hp 140shield adepts with a 2 second warp in time. Since the nerfs I've found that opening cc first into 3 rax medivac into 5 rax holds this off very well with just bio. Make sure you're putting your mauraders in front of marines, and contrary to what you might think you still want a very healthy marine count since they do much higher DPS vs adepts than marauders. edit: Just realized I don't know what race you play I assumed Terran? Or is it viable against Zerg too? I'm Zerg xD opening standard, 13lord, 17 hatch | ||
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watchlulu
Germany475 Posts
Because I was playing 14 Hatch, 14 Pool, 13 Overlord until now and I tested both builds against each other and the Outcome was at 2:22 (because afterwards it's basically the same) For 13 Overlord, 17 Hatch, 18 Pool (Build A) For 14 Hatch, 14 Pool, 13 Overlord (Build B) A) 24 Drones, Queens halfway done, 2070 Minerals mined, next Overlord almost finished B) 24 Drones, Queens already done, 1985 Minerals mined, next Overlord almost finished So my question is: Is it worth it to mine ~100 more Minerals? Because the two injects in Build B were on average ~23.5 Seconds faster than at Build A and the extra Minerals you had in Build A were just floating around anyways because I was unable to spend them. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
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FlambyGSL
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just wondering, in hots, there is no neutral rock at the ramp of the 2v2 map cristal basin, is it a "new" bug, or has it always been the case? i remember this bug happened once on the gsl maps : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/352339-spoilers-gsl-metropolis-neutral-depot-situation | ||
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Fliparoni
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
As P you have to be ahead in bases, in order to be able to win against liberator, as lib+bio will trade positively against Protoss. So you are on 4 and they are on 3, or you are one 5 and they are on 4. Which is around the time liberators come into play. But you also have to be behind in the early game. If you go full greed and take a 3rd, it doesn't seem to be safe both vs stim pushes and drops. So basicly in the time between they take their 3rd and 4th base, you have to, as a Protoss, take your 3rd, 4th and 5th base? Is this really the case? How can this ever play out in a balanced way? It doesn't seem like it's possible to me. And yet, from what I understand, it's neccesarily the only way it can play out, if Protoss does not want to get insta stomped. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
I'm thinking about returning to Protoss, but really don't want to do Disruptor versus Disruptor all the time. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On November 16 2015 12:20 BronzeKnee wrote: Is PvP dominated by Disruptor vs Disruptor combat in LOTV? I'm thinking about returning to Protoss, but really don't want to do Disruptor versus Disruptor all the time. Disruptor and blink vs disruptor and blink. At least at plat+ | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
Like early WOL ZvZ with Lings and Banes and tiny little maps, it was just ridiculous. | ||
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Haighstrom
United Kingdom216 Posts
It's stronger than HOTS because a) Protoss has more money (= extra pylons/cannons restricting movement/surface area etc) b) I can't scout the forge in time because forge finishes earlier and overlord gets there too late The drone transfer to the third to defend takes ages to get there so then it's too late. Should I be putting my second overlord over my 3rd as soon as I see the natural pylon and cancelling it when i see the cannon rush start, or what? Just delay taking my natural (wait for lings to kill the pylon if he didn't cancel it), and don't take the third? | ||
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On November 16 2015 20:50 Haighstrom wrote: ZvP, correct response to pylon block on natural into cannon rush the 3rd when I take that as my natural instead? It's stronger than HOTS because a) Protoss has more money (= extra pylons/cannons restricting movement/surface area etc) b) I can't scout the forge in time because forge finishes earlier and overlord gets there too late The drone transfer to the third to defend takes ages to get there so then it's too late. Should I be putting my second overlord over my 3rd as soon as I see the natural pylon and cancelling it when i see the cannon rush start, or what? Just delay taking my natural (wait for lings to kill the pylon if he didn't cancel it), and don't take the third? If he has a probe placing a pylon before you plant your natural, it smells fishy, you can afford pool first anyway. I would suggest to probably go fast gas also, this way, either he commits to cannons/more pylons to delay you, and risks a roach -ravager burst, or he goes back, and is as late as you. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On November 16 2015 21:16 magha wrote: How to cancel the Adept teleport? Esc on either the halluc or the real one. You can change this hotkey if you want. | ||
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passmwalpain
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 17 2015 19:04 passmwalpain wrote: What is the most efficient way/hotkey to unload tankivac ? click unload on medivac (standard D) | ||
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