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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 21:59:14
March 30 2014 21:59 GMT
#16541
On March 31 2014 01:33 Silentce wrote:
What are the maps I should be vetoing as zerg? I've looked everywhere for a current list, and can't find one.

why not play them and figure out which ones you like instead of following some mindless concept of "map meta"? even pros don't all agree 100% on maps

i never veto any maps because i like variety and don't like limiting myself by taking away situations that might pose a bigger challenge
Silentce
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Germany46 Posts
March 31 2014 10:21 GMT
#16542
I have enough challenge right now. I have yet to meet someone who can't beat me
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
March 31 2014 10:55 GMT
#16543
On March 31 2014 19:21 Silentce wrote:
I have enough challenge right now. I have yet to meet someone who can't beat me


Vetoing can also help you improve, as you'll have less variables to work with. I cant help you on which maps to veto tho. I think just picking out the ones you like/have highest winrate on should work out
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
March 31 2014 12:32 GMT
#16544
I am back from a long time where I did not play. I am zerg. Is the idea to play a speedling double expand a good idea for gold league, or will I have a too hard time trying to defend it?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 31 2014 13:41 GMT
#16545
On March 31 2014 21:32 [F_]aths wrote:
I am back from a long time where I did not play. I am zerg. Is the idea to play a speedling double expand a good idea for gold league, or will I have a too hard time trying to defend it?


Not sure which matchup you're talking about. For the most part, I think 1-base speedling is a bad build; it's much better to go early expand -> speedlings + double ups OR single up + lair -> 3rd base.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 31 2014 14:08 GMT
#16546
On March 31 2014 19:55 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 19:21 Silentce wrote:
I have enough challenge right now. I have yet to meet someone who can't beat me


Vetoing can also help you improve, as you'll have less variables to work with. I cant help you on which maps to veto tho. I think just picking out the ones you like/have highest winrate on should work out

Veto'ing allows for more targeted practice. I play random and don't veto in this pool (except old Daedalus) because I like to keep the game as fresh as I can! Others prefer to keep variables minimized (only 2P maps, only macro maps, cutting a certain texture, etcetera) for whatever reason.
None is better than the other - remember, you're playing because it is fun to you (hence the word play :D), so do whatever makes you happy!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
March 31 2014 15:12 GMT
#16547
I saw a build order website that allows you to mark things on like a time and press play to pass the time for each build order test. Anybody seen this before? I can't find the link by searching.
zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 19:01:22
April 04 2014 21:47 GMT
#16548
the standart opening in tvp is hax reaper and then 2 more hax one with tech lab and the other one with no addons..
my questions is, why this 3rd barracks has no addon soon?

Edit: Thx Ake Vader
Ake_Vader
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden58 Posts
April 05 2014 20:55 GMT
#16549
On April 01 2014 00:12 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
I saw a build order website that allows you to mark things on like a time and press play to pass the time for each build order test. Anybody seen this before? I can't find the link by searching.

Perhaps it was http://www.sc2planner.com ? (can't find a list of BO's though but they're commonly referred from the TL wiki for example)
Ake_Vader
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden58 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 21:10:41
April 05 2014 21:05 GMT
#16550
On April 05 2014 06:47 zEEzz wrote:
the standart opening in tvp is hax reaper and then 2 more hax one with tech lab and the other one with no addons..
my questions is, why this 3rd barracks has no addon soon?

I'd say it's not uncommon for players to go for a tech lab on the last rax to get double marauder production and combat shield along with stim (which you start as soon as the tech lab on the first rax is done). Can be seen among the builds in the Imbabuilds TvP section for example.

Edit: the case where you would skip the second tech lab is probably when you are sure that your opponent is going for an all-in and simply need to crank out more marines instead of tech.
ChaKaD
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada2 Posts
April 06 2014 14:59 GMT
#16551
How am I supposed to deal with a guy who goes mass widow mines? ( The entire map was mined )
"Carpe Diem"
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
April 06 2014 15:02 GMT
#16552
On April 06 2014 23:59 ChaKaD wrote:
How am I supposed to deal with a guy who goes mass widow mines? ( The entire map was mined )


What race are you?
ChaKaD
Profile Joined April 2014
Canada2 Posts
April 06 2014 15:03 GMT
#16553
On April 07 2014 00:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 23:59 ChaKaD wrote:
How am I supposed to deal with a guy who goes mass widow mines? ( The entire map was mined )


What race are you?


Terran
"Carpe Diem"
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 06 2014 22:30 GMT
#16554
On April 07 2014 00:03 ChaKaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 00:02 Excludos wrote:
On April 06 2014 23:59 ChaKaD wrote:
How am I supposed to deal with a guy who goes mass widow mines? ( The entire map was mined )


What race are you?


Terran


The short answer: don't let it get there.

In TvT, I highly suggest just going marine/tank and focusing on your macro + positioning; this is the best way to improve in the matchup and by far the most stable composition (probably in the entire game).
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
FalconPunch
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States134 Posts
April 11 2014 19:04 GMT
#16555
I let a Protoss get a easy 3rd base without applying any pressure to him as he opened stargate and I had no AA. I took my 4th. Then realized he was going carriers. I took two more bases for the gas and went half-half hydras/corrupters. The hydras were for defense from earlier vray/phoenix play. He also got a mothership and ended up with a maxed army of mostly carriers with some vray and mothership support. I couldnt touch his army. He sniped my 4ish overseers and carriers took out everything.

Question is.. how does zerg deal with mass carriers/mothership besides not letting it get to that point.
You only live twice.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 18:20:31
April 12 2014 18:20 GMT
#16556
Quickie: How do MULEs work with gold minerals? The gold bost + MULE boost, or one overrides another or something else?
wickedmeout
Profile Joined March 2010
United States18 Posts
April 12 2014 18:45 GMT
#16557
I recently bought starcraft 2 (not with HoTs)
Bc I wanted to get back into it I haven't played any starcraft game in years when I would play BW I wasn't bad but I wasn't great I loved the game though and would love to play sc2
An keep up with it as I did with BW
My question is
What do you guys recommend I should to work my way up to getting better? And any helpful websites
I downloaded a bunch of replays last night
I play Protoss but would like to learn Terran
Please excuse me if something similar like this has been posted
Thanks guys
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 12 2014 18:57 GMT
#16558
On April 13 2014 03:20 McRatyn wrote:
Quickie: How do MULEs work with gold minerals? The gold bost + MULE boost, or one overrides another or something else?


no extra gold income for mule.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 12 2014 18:58 GMT
#16559
On April 13 2014 03:45 wickedmeout wrote:
I recently bought starcraft 2 (not with HoTs)
Bc I wanted to get back into it I haven't played any starcraft game in years when I would play BW I wasn't bad but I wasn't great I loved the game though and would love to play sc2
An keep up with it as I did with BW
My question is
What do you guys recommend I should to work my way up to getting better? And any helpful websites
I downloaded a bunch of replays last night
I play Protoss but would like to learn Terran
Please excuse me if something similar like this has been posted
Thanks guys


1st thing you must learn is constant worker production.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 12 2014 19:11 GMT
#16560
On April 13 2014 03:45 wickedmeout wrote:
I recently bought starcraft 2 (not with HoTs)
Bc I wanted to get back into it I haven't played any starcraft game in years when I would play BW I wasn't bad but I wasn't great I loved the game though and would love to play sc2
An keep up with it as I did with BW
My question is
What do you guys recommend I should to work my way up to getting better? And any helpful websites
I downloaded a bunch of replays last night
I play Protoss but would like to learn Terran
Please excuse me if something similar like this has been posted
Thanks guys


These are great places to start for beginners:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/374400-thestaircase-an-alternative-improvement-method
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/330787-bronze-to-masters-improving-mechanics

If you need more advanced guides, just check out this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/284255-sc2-strategy-recommended-threads-read-second
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
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