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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
September 06 2012 05:17 GMT
#14001
When there are two pylons overlapping each others warp-in/power radius and you warp in some units in this area, does the system bind your warp-in to one of these pylons/areas?
Does the warp-in continue when I kill one of these pylons (cause there would be still one power field left) and do I have to kill all two pylons to disrupt the warp-in? Or do I only have to kill the right pylon (to which the warp-in was bound to) to disrupt it?
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
September 06 2012 07:34 GMT
#14002
On September 06 2012 14:17 enemy2010 wrote:
When there are two pylons overlapping each others warp-in/power radius and you warp in some units in this area, does the system bind your warp-in to one of these pylons/areas?
Does the warp-in continue when I kill one of these pylons (cause there would be still one power field left) and do I have to kill all two pylons to disrupt the warp-in? Or do I only have to kill the right pylon (to which the warp-in was bound to) to disrupt it?


You'll need to kill both pylons to disrupt the warp-in.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#14003
Are the TLPD Stats for August out yet?
Why are they not automated yet?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Aporia
Profile Joined June 2012
United States5 Posts
September 06 2012 11:40 GMT
#14004
6 pool into mass muta, how do you beat this as a Protoss. Why will blizzard not balance this fucking game and actually allow P to punish 6 poolers?

User was warned for this post
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
September 06 2012 11:58 GMT
#14005
On September 06 2012 20:40 Aporia wrote:
6 pool into mass muta, how do you beat this as a Protoss. Why will blizzard not balance this fucking game and actually allow P to punish 6 poolers?

Replay? Odds are he either did a ton of damage with the 6 pool, or you overreacted, or you just let him play extremely greedy to get mutas. A good followup to macro 6 pool is 4gate or 7gate +1
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Limble
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia23 Posts
September 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#14006
In ZvP if I cast infested terran into a vortex will they have hatched and become infested terrans? Coz it seems like a good idea if they do the archon toilet, I just haven't remember to try yet.
AznBoy00
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada166 Posts
September 06 2012 13:56 GMT
#14007
On September 06 2012 08:02 AznBoy00 wrote:
Hey TL, I've been having some trouble PvT vs 2base 2 medivac MM push... I just keep on dying to this by doing 1g expo...When the push comes, I have charge, +1 armor on 5g robo at around 110 supply...my zealots always die for some reason...

I have no real problem holding the push by doing nexus first because of the amount of unit I can produce, but right now I want to hold the push with 1g expo...so a little help here would be appreciated ^^

-AznBoy00


Answer plz?
My Life For Protoss =) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 14:02:02
September 06 2012 14:01 GMT
#14008
On September 06 2012 22:56 AznBoy00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 08:02 AznBoy00 wrote:
Hey TL, I've been having some trouble PvT vs 2base 2 medivac MM push... I just keep on dying to this by doing 1g expo...When the push comes, I have charge, +1 armor on 5g robo at around 110 supply...my zealots always die for some reason...

I have no real problem holding the push by doing nexus first because of the amount of unit I can produce, but right now I want to hold the push with 1g expo...so a little help here would be appreciated ^^

-AznBoy00


Answer plz?


Unfortunately I can't actually answer it myself, but if you're having trouble getting a reply here The Protoss Help Me Thread might be better to get you a reply as more people who know Protoss specifically might see it, and it is a more specific issue.

Someone here might still be able to help too, just trying to be help as I can since you've not received a reply already.
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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
September 06 2012 14:08 GMT
#14009
On September 06 2012 22:56 AznBoy00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 08:02 AznBoy00 wrote:
Hey TL, I've been having some trouble PvT vs 2base 2 medivac MM push... I just keep on dying to this by doing 1g expo...When the push comes, I have charge, +1 armor on 5g robo at around 110 supply...my zealots always die for some reason...

I have no real problem holding the push by doing nexus first because of the amount of unit I can produce, but right now I want to hold the push with 1g expo...so a little help here would be appreciated ^^

-AznBoy00


Answer plz?


This is not a simple question, read the OP:

What not to ask in this thread

When is a good time to expand? (Situational / game dependent)

How much damage does a Thor do against light-bio? (Liquipedia)

How can I micro better? (Too generic)

What kind of 1-1-1 opening do you guys and gals play? (Survey / spam question)


I suggest that you first take a long hard look at a fair sample of your replays, come up with some analysis of your own and spend some time figuring out where the issue lies and put together a well constructed Help thread with a link to the replays, your own analysis and a mind open to suggestions and criticisms.

Otherwise, there is the Protoss section of the Recommended Threads thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284255
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Lolhippos
Profile Joined August 2011
United States8 Posts
September 07 2012 05:11 GMT
#14010
How do I improve my APM?
Previously I maintained 120 and was able to focus and win most of my games and get promoted to diamond.
Once I hit diamond my APM has spiked down and I average 70-75. I miss injects, drops, etc. and I haven't been able to win since.
Anyone have any tips or tricks to bring it up?
Jian
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
September 07 2012 07:29 GMT
#14011
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 08:35:27
September 07 2012 08:35 GMT
#14012
On September 07 2012 14:11 Lolhippos wrote:
How do I improve my APM?
Previously I maintained 120 and was able to focus and win most of my games and get promoted to diamond.
Once I hit diamond my APM has spiked down and I average 70-75. I miss injects, drops, etc. and I haven't been able to win since.
Anyone have any tips or tricks to bring it up?


Other than just playing more, there are little flash games that can help. There was a really popular music one at some point I can't seem to find, but if you search TL for mouse accuracy, you'll find some flash games to help accurate and fast clicking training.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285462

http://www.aim400kg.ru/en/

I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but as an outside the game way to practice APM, seems like it could help. The other option is APM spam, which of course a lot of people say helps. I don't have any other good ideas, so if I missed something hopefuly someone will say.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
ShnAndrei
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania164 Posts
September 07 2012 10:55 GMT
#14013
In TvT, after selecting a bunch of workers to build more than one building, how do you rally your workers back to the minerals without having all the workers clump up on the same mineral patch?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
September 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#14014
On September 06 2012 21:30 Limble wrote:
In ZvP if I cast infested terran into a vortex will they have hatched and become infested terrans? Coz it seems like a good idea if they do the archon toilet, I just haven't remember to try yet.


Yes, Infested Terrans' timers will continue to count down, both in egg form (and thus hatching into ITs) and while alive their count will also decrease while inside the vortex.

Eggs take 5 seconds to hatch, so eggs that go into the vortex will come out as ITs so long as you throw them in no later than 15 secs after the vortex is cast (as vortex lasts 20 secs).

See Liquipedia Notes on Vortex at the bottom of the page:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Vortex#Notes

I don't see how throwing them into an archon toilet would help though, I'm not sure how splash damage works and whether tanking will work if that's what you're referring to, I'll check.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 13:49:45
September 07 2012 13:48 GMT
#14015
On September 07 2012 19:55 ShnAndrei wrote:
In TvT, after selecting a bunch of workers to build more than one building, how do you rally your workers back to the minerals without having all the workers clump up on the same mineral patch?


Click on a patch, shift click one out of the group, click another patch, shift click one out of the group, repeat. They still won't assimilate neatly into the patches, though.
Limble
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia23 Posts
September 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#14016
On September 07 2012 22:13 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 21:30 Limble wrote:
In ZvP if I cast infested terran into a vortex will they have hatched and become infested terrans? Coz it seems like a good idea if they do the archon toilet, I just haven't remember to try yet.


Yes, Infested Terrans' timers will continue to count down, both in egg form (and thus hatching into ITs) and while alive their count will also decrease while inside the vortex.

Eggs take 5 seconds to hatch, so eggs that go into the vortex will come out as ITs so long as you throw them in no later than 15 secs after the vortex is cast (as vortex lasts 20 secs).

See Liquipedia Notes on Vortex at the bottom of the page:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Vortex#Notes

I don't see how throwing them into an archon toilet would help though, I'm not sure how splash damage works and whether tanking will work if that's what you're referring to, I'll check.


Thanks for the info. ITs have decent dps if you target fire with them so I was thinking it might somehow be useful, like move your broods away when the vortex finishes and try focus archons, although archons would probably destroy them way too quickly to matter.
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
September 07 2012 14:52 GMT
#14017
On September 07 2012 19:55 ShnAndrei wrote:
In TvT, after selecting a bunch of workers to build more than one building, how do you rally your workers back to the minerals without having all the workers clump up on the same mineral patch?


You don't, you can't send a move command to a single unit when you have multiple units selected
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
September 07 2012 14:54 GMT
#14018
On September 07 2012 22:59 Limble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 22:13 Deleuze wrote:
On September 06 2012 21:30 Limble wrote:
In ZvP if I cast infested terran into a vortex will they have hatched and become infested terrans? Coz it seems like a good idea if they do the archon toilet, I just haven't remember to try yet.


Yes, Infested Terrans' timers will continue to count down, both in egg form (and thus hatching into ITs) and while alive their count will also decrease while inside the vortex.

Eggs take 5 seconds to hatch, so eggs that go into the vortex will come out as ITs so long as you throw them in no later than 15 secs after the vortex is cast (as vortex lasts 20 secs).

See Liquipedia Notes on Vortex at the bottom of the page:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Vortex#Notes

I don't see how throwing them into an archon toilet would help though, I'm not sure how splash damage works and whether tanking will work if that's what you're referring to, I'll check.


Thanks for the info. ITs have decent dps if you target fire with them so I was thinking it might somehow be useful, like move your broods away when the vortex finishes and try focus archons, although archons would probably destroy them way too quickly to matter.


Destiny using IT vs a vortex. It's better to throw them around the vortex because the Archons will still do splash against them if they go into the vortex
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
September 07 2012 15:50 GMT
#14019
How do people 1a?
It seems you have to use the little finger to press both "1" and "a" keys.
Or, do people use the ring finger for "1" and little finger for "a"?
Either way, I feel it is too hard to move fingers that way.
I personally use 5a so that my index finger can press "5" quite naturally, then little finger is on "a" anyways.
5a6a7a seems so much easier than 1a2a3a in terms of finger movement.
We talk so much about 1a in the game, but since finger movement is hard, doesn't it hinder some improvement for new players coming to SC2/RTS for the first time?
I am fully aware that you can change hotkeys, but that's not the point.
I have been wondering this since BW days, and I finally decided to ask.
youngtuna
Profile Joined October 2011
7 Posts
September 07 2012 17:02 GMT
#14020
Watched NASL like a week ago and some zerg went mass muta against P and totally crushed him. It was a big map and he had like 140 supply of mutas at some point. Took like 6 hatches really fast to get a lot of gas and kept making mutas. Anybody remember who the player was? I think it was Hyun or Roro and I'd really like to see the match again and study it a bit it was awesome
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