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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2591 Posts
February 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#10841
On February 01 2012 02:24 Hodgyy wrote:
I have noticed most comps are 1v1 but there are a few that are team vs team in a 1v1 bracket format, its quite confusing for me to be honest to see a 1v1 based game play in a team bracket manner can someone please que me in on how this works? and if it is some leagues that do this or what?

Repost btw.

I think the reason this wasn't answered the first time is that your question is nearly incomprehensible. Are you asking something about how team-format tournaments work? If so, you might try looking at Liquipedia entries for the tournaments concerned. Otherwise, you might try taking some time to clarify your question a bit.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Hodgyy
Profile Joined January 2012
138 Posts
February 01 2012 17:42 GMT
#10842
Basically my questions was regarding the GSTL i guess, i noticed they say its a Team league but the games are still played 1v1. How does it work? Each team has so many players and they just match pairs from each team? in a best of 5 7 9 12 depending on how far they are into the comp? I noticed they spoke of Ace's who would knock out the whole other team and advance, i dont know im confused myself that is why the question might be hard to understand.
Syntechi!
ColterTV
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina163 Posts
February 01 2012 18:02 GMT
#10843
Did the behaviour of ctrl-f1 changed?
I remember using ctrl-f1 to select idle scvs, but when I do it in middle game sometimes it selects another stuff, like command centers or other random buildings. Happened to you?
ColterTV Stream -> http://www.twitch.tv/ColterTV
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
February 01 2012 18:16 GMT
#10844
On February 02 2012 03:02 japi wrote:
Did the behaviour of ctrl-f1 changed?
I remember using ctrl-f1 to select idle scvs, but when I do it in middle game sometimes it selects another stuff, like command centers or other random buildings. Happened to you?


Are you sure you are not hitting control group 1? As long as you have not changed f1 to a location hotkey it should work fine.
You also might be hitting tab while in a macro group.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
February 01 2012 18:28 GMT
#10845
On February 02 2012 02:42 Hodgyy wrote:
Basically my questions was regarding the GSTL i guess, i noticed they say its a Team league but the games are still played 1v1. How does it work? Each team has so many players and they just match pairs from each team? in a best of 5 7 9 12 depending on how far they are into the comp? I noticed they spoke of Ace's who would knock out the whole other team and advance, i dont know im confused myself that is why the question might be hard to understand.


All team leagues in SC are 1v1 based where each 1v1 goes towards the teams score. In the GSTL they use the All-kill format, meaning the player who wins plays the next player from the opposing team. This leads to the possibility of an all-kill, when one player beats everyone from the other team (5 players in a bo9). An ace is usually there best overall player who they can count on to beat anyone from the other team who they could play as their last player and turn the match around. One of the cool dynamics of these matches is each team choses their next player during the match, so there always a big "who are they going to send out next" moment.

Other formats like the BW proleague have 4 bo1s and a bo3 (The Ace match). Here all the players are set from the beginning. In this case the Ace is just the player they play at the end in case of a 2-2 tie, usually the best player on the team.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
neo_rtr
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden70 Posts
February 01 2012 19:03 GMT
#10846
I would like to move the StarCraft II file location from one drive to an other
I am talking about the directory having the accounts, Banks, GameLogs Replays etc
would like to move them to a separate SSD drive.
ColterTV
Profile Joined September 2010
Argentina163 Posts
February 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#10847
On February 02 2012 03:16 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Are you sure you are not hitting control group 1? As long as you have not changed f1 to a location hotkey it should work fine.
You also might be hitting tab while in a macro group.


Yes I'm positive on pressing ctrl-f1 (I always start the match with it).
I want to use it when I see a few idle scvs to send them back to mine/repair/whatever, but for some reason I get more stuff selected in the middle-late game. Weird.
ColterTV Stream -> http://www.twitch.tv/ColterTV
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 01 2012 21:12 GMT
#10848
--- Nuked ---
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
February 02 2012 00:04 GMT
#10849
Can you spectate 2v2 custom games? I am not sure if my game is glitching out or something.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
February 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#10850
On February 02 2012 09:04 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Can you spectate 2v2 custom games? I am not sure if my game is glitching out or something.

Yes. When you invite 5 people into a 2v2 game, someone will be put in the spectator category. Otherwise, you can right-click on someone's name and select "Make Spectator"
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
February 02 2012 01:26 GMT
#10851
On February 01 2012 23:21 Coindrop wrote:
Simple Question: Does anyone know when the current ladder season ends?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308156

Couple weeks ^^
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EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
February 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#10852
What is the normal timing for warp gate to be completed?
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NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
February 02 2012 02:19 GMT
#10853
On February 01 2012 17:39 Forbidden17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 16:56 JPoPP wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:35 vVv Talent wrote:
How do players split their probes at the beginning of the game and what does it do for them?


FP of idra spliting


I think most people just do a 3/3 split

Here's the reason for splitting


On March 03 2010 18:02 TieN.nS) wrote:
If you just let the AI do the whole thing, you won't have enough minerals for a second worker until some time after the first one is finished building. With a proper split you should have the second worker queued up (or morphing) before the first one is done.


this is assuming you start your first worker before you split

but that reasoning is only sound for protoss/terran. What about zerg? Why is it (apparently) better to make a drone first, then mine -> split workers?


I think preparing yourself for a quick sweeping move sending your workers to the minerals as soon as the game loads and then starting your first worker is more efficient than the trendy splitting thing.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 02:27:27
February 02 2012 02:25 GMT
#10854
On February 02 2012 11:19 NewbieOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:39 Forbidden17 wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:56 JPoPP wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:35 vVv Talent wrote:
How do players split their probes at the beginning of the game and what does it do for them?


FP of idra spliting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztk-A4msVWE&feature=related

I think most people just do a 3/3 split

Here's the reason for splitting


On March 03 2010 18:02 TieN.nS) wrote:
If you just let the AI do the whole thing, you won't have enough minerals for a second worker until some time after the first one is finished building. With a proper split you should have the second worker queued up (or morphing) before the first one is done.


this is assuming you start your first worker before you split

but that reasoning is only sound for protoss/terran. What about zerg? Why is it (apparently) better to make a drone first, then mine -> split workers?


I think preparing yourself for a quick sweeping move sending your workers to the minerals as soon as the game loads and then starting your first worker is more efficient than the trendy splitting thing.

What would be the logical reasoning behind that? Other responses have said the goal is to start larva production asap by making the worker first, which imo makes sense.

edit:
On February 02 2012 10:34 EienShinwa wrote:
What is the normal timing for warp gate to be completed?

6:20 from a 13gate. Assuming you place your core down right after gateway completes which is around 2:50

Subtract 10 seconds for every chrono used.
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
February 02 2012 02:38 GMT
#10855
On February 02 2012 11:25 Forbidden17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 11:19 NewbieOne wrote:
On February 01 2012 17:39 Forbidden17 wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:56 JPoPP wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:35 vVv Talent wrote:
How do players split their probes at the beginning of the game and what does it do for them?


FP of idra spliting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztk-A4msVWE&feature=related

I think most people just do a 3/3 split

Here's the reason for splitting


On March 03 2010 18:02 TieN.nS) wrote:
If you just let the AI do the whole thing, you won't have enough minerals for a second worker until some time after the first one is finished building. With a proper split you should have the second worker queued up (or morphing) before the first one is done.


this is assuming you start your first worker before you split

but that reasoning is only sound for protoss/terran. What about zerg? Why is it (apparently) better to make a drone first, then mine -> split workers?


I think preparing yourself for a quick sweeping move sending your workers to the minerals as soon as the game loads and then starting your first worker is more efficient than the trendy splitting thing.

What would be the logical reasoning behind that? Other responses have said the goal is to start larva production asap by making the worker first, which imo makes sense.


Sorry, I should've made it clear I wasn't actually referring to Zerg. I don't know what kind of influence splitting may have on larva production efficiency but in the case of Terran and Protoss, splitting does not make a difference. Hence I concluded it was better to learn to send them mining really fast (as in reacting the fastest possible at game start) instead of practicing the cool moves.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 02:39:26
February 02 2012 02:39 GMT
#10856
On February 02 2012 11:19 NewbieOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:39 Forbidden17 wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:56 JPoPP wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:35 vVv Talent wrote:
How do players split their probes at the beginning of the game and what does it do for them?


FP of idra spliting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztk-A4msVWE&feature=related

I think most people just do a 3/3 split

Here's the reason for splitting


On March 03 2010 18:02 TieN.nS) wrote:
If you just let the AI do the whole thing, you won't have enough minerals for a second worker until some time after the first one is finished building. With a proper split you should have the second worker queued up (or morphing) before the first one is done.


this is assuming you start your first worker before you split

but that reasoning is only sound for protoss/terran. What about zerg? Why is it (apparently) better to make a drone first, then mine -> split workers?


I think preparing yourself for a quick sweeping move sending your workers to the minerals as soon as the game loads and then starting your first worker is more efficient than the trendy splitting thing.

As Terran/Protoss, it is more important to start the worker first because you can only make 1 worker at a time.
As Zerg, however, you are only limited by the amount of money that you have in the ultra-early game, so it is more important to mine->split, THEN start your first drone.
"Good works do not make a good man, but a good man does good works" -Martin Luther ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Monkay
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 10:38:49
February 02 2012 07:19 GMT
#10857
pls ignore this post
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
February 02 2012 13:02 GMT
#10858
If Terran losses their factory, can they still make starports?

I mean, what happens in TvP when terran floats their factory, then loses it?
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Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
February 02 2012 13:09 GMT
#10859
On February 02 2012 22:02 Belial88 wrote:
If Terran losses their factory, can they still make starports?

I mean, what happens in TvP when terran floats their factory, then loses it?


Nope
-iNko
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania160 Posts
February 02 2012 16:31 GMT
#10860
if i go 1gate expo against zerg, and he builds his 3rd at ~4min, is canceling nexus and going 4-6g allin worth it? if so should i get +1 since i prolly would have forge started too..
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