Anyway if anyone knows the build order/how many zerglings and banelings you should get could you post it here?
Thanks.
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minimat
Australia344 Posts
Anyway if anyone knows the build order/how many zerglings and banelings you should get could you post it here? Thanks. | ||
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nK)Duke
Germany936 Posts
On January 08 2011 16:45 minimat wrote: Hey guys just wondering if anyone was watching the GSL last night no, no one saw that on tl.net | ||
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minimat
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andiCR
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minimat
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nK)Duke
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andiCR
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minimat
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minimat
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
I think we can expect you to last here for a long time. | ||
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justindab0mb
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Turgid
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Kraugy
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Carefoot
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
On January 08 2011 17:16 Turgid wrote: As far as I can tell the bust would've worked even if he had set it down in his main. I guess he put it in his nat because.. he's a funny guy. Watching too much Catz. I'm pretty sure he put it in his main because Terran usually scans the Zerg main to see tech buildings. If the T had seen it he could have floated the factory over to block. | ||
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Turgid
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Rejuvenation
Canada128 Posts
Get gas - pool Fake hatch expo, cancel make a banneling nest have 16 zerglings when your nest finishes
Did this help you? Made it to mirror the quality of the OP's thread. Enjoy. | ||
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exarchrum
United States491 Posts
Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick) Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early? | ||
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:41 exarchrum wrote: Ok I'm going to have a serious response in this post.... Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick) Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early? I don't really understand the advantage either, Slush did the same thing with a baneling nest hidden elsewhere on the map before which seems to make sense, but if that scv opts not to leave, and proxy bunkers are pretty damn common on Delta, that if the Terran player sees its a baneling nest they just fortify their wall and its gg? | ||
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:50 Adebisi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2011 18:41 exarchrum wrote: Ok I'm going to have a serious response in this post.... Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick) Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early? I don't really understand the advantage either, Slush did the same thing with a baneling nest hidden elsewhere on the map before which seems to make sense, but if that scv opts not to leave, and proxy bunkers are pretty damn common on Delta, that if the Terran player sees its a baneling nest they just fortify their wall and its gg? The trick is that as soon as terran sees the expo go down they assume they're safe from a 1base baneling bust, and there's probably 5 or so minutes before a Kyrix-style bust is possible. Cancelling the hatchery and putting the banelings nest there protects against scans in the main, and it also protects against a terran player who might pop back in but not click on the morphing building. What happens is that the baneling bust occurs far before the terran player would be prepared for it. If the Zerg player doesn't expand, that's a tell to the Terran that something is up. | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
High probability that it might get closed again and your probably the same guy as before. Just wanted to warn you. | ||
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hoovehand
United Kingdom542 Posts
if terran spots the baneling nest he'll just make hellions, bunker CC and instant win. | ||
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warcralft
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ChickenLips
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It was on Steppes of war and the Zerg was on the south position, It was some no-name decent player, I don't remember who unfortunately. So yeah its a cute play but it has been done before | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
Yes this is radical, but it's not new. It's faking your opponent out while building a blingnest and wasting zero travel distance time. What your opponent sees is a common speedling expand build, but that's wrong. The scouting scv is not going to scout there again because it will surely be lost because for all your opponent knows, getting gas before pool means speed. There is no chance in hell the terran is gonna scan your natural while it's hatching (because that's what he assumes due to your trickery). This is why this build was so shocking being seen on GSL because of how well thought out it was. | ||
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SpoR
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Lysergic
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On January 08 2011 23:10 lysergic wrote: I think its funny how tastosis make fun of "nerds that say players are garbage for doing things like 6 pool, but when someone like SlayersBoxer cheese's they're so amazing and creative". They acted like a baneling bust with a slight trick (which may or may not of actually helped) was some god-like strategy just because it was JulyZerg doing it. Tasteless had no idea you can do this, I'm pretty sure. He didn't even know about the evo chamber rush. That's his excuse. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
Terran didn't even scout so regardless of the baneling nest being in the main or out at the expo he didn't see it comming and he was teching hard from the begining so it made it seem alot more devestating that a safer more conventional terran opener would have been. | ||
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