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JulyZerg's GSL Bling strat

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minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
January 08 2011 07:45 GMT
#1
Hey guys just wondering if anyone was watching the GSL last night and saw the JulyZerg early hatch that was cancelled and made into a baneling nest and just shattered his opponent.

Anyway if anyone knows the build order/how many zerglings and banelings you should get could you post it here?

Thanks.
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
January 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#2
On January 08 2011 16:45 minimat wrote:
Hey guys just wondering if anyone was watching the GSL last night


no, no one saw that on tl.net
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
January 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#3
yea, that wasn't the question but whatever..
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
January 08 2011 07:49 GMT
#4
Didn't u make a thread exactly like this one and got closed????
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
January 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#5
Nope
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
January 08 2011 07:50 GMT
#6
zerg is (supposed to be) an adaptive race. learn how to exploit the opponent and use that whenever u see an opening.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
January 08 2011 07:52 GMT
#7
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182506 there.. Not u though but response applies here as well
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
January 08 2011 07:52 GMT
#8
Thats not the question mate Im asking what he did because I want to know what HE did not what kind of race Zerg is.
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
January 08 2011 07:52 GMT
#9
Thanks never
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 08:11:32
January 08 2011 08:09 GMT
#10
I find it a little strange that 83% of your posts are in this thread, and half are whines about people aren't answering your question after a mere 10 minutes.

I think we can expect you to last here for a long time.
justindab0mb
Profile Joined October 2010
United States213 Posts
January 08 2011 08:10 GMT
#11
I wonder why he built it at his natural instead of just putting it down in his main? Was he expecting the terran to scan or something?
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 08 2011 08:16 GMT
#12
As far as I can tell the bust would've worked even if he had set it down in his main. I guess he put it in his nat because.. he's a funny guy. Watching too much Catz.
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Kraugy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7 Posts
January 08 2011 08:18 GMT
#13
@justindab0mb I think the purpose of placing it in the natural was so that if the terran opponent were to scout the natural he would feel safer about the next few minutes of the game. He wasn't expecting a baneling bust knocking on his door just moments later.
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Carefoot
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada410 Posts
January 08 2011 08:26 GMT
#14
Its not really JulyZergs strat to be honest I first saw it months back on the GOM teamleague (which I don't think there are any vods up for, or are there?)
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targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
January 08 2011 08:38 GMT
#15
On January 08 2011 17:16 Turgid wrote:
As far as I can tell the bust would've worked even if he had set it down in his main. I guess he put it in his nat because.. he's a funny guy. Watching too much Catz.


I'm pretty sure he put it in his main because Terran usually scans the Zerg main to see tech buildings. If the T had seen it he could have floated the factory over to block.
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 08 2011 08:54 GMT
#16
That would have been pretty early for a scan, no? July wouldn't have a lair out or anything at that timing, I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Rejuvenation
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada128 Posts
January 08 2011 08:57 GMT
#17
The banneling bust :

Get gas - pool

Fake hatch expo, cancel

make a banneling nest

have 16 zerglings when your nest finishes
  • Step 1 : make 6 blings
  • Step 2 : Destroy the supply depots
  • Step 3 : run in with your 10 zerglings
  • Step 4 : rally zergling to oppenent
  • Step 5 : kill him


Did this help you? Made it to mirror the quality of the OP's thread. Enjoy.
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
January 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#18
Ok I'm going to have a serious response in this post....

Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick)

Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early?
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
January 08 2011 09:50 GMT
#19
On January 08 2011 18:41 exarchrum wrote:
Ok I'm going to have a serious response in this post....

Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick)

Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early?

I don't really understand the advantage either, Slush did the same thing with a baneling nest hidden elsewhere on the map before which seems to make sense, but if that scv opts not to leave, and proxy bunkers are pretty damn common on Delta, that if the Terran player sees its a baneling nest they just fortify their wall and its gg?
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 10:09:22
January 08 2011 10:09 GMT
#20
On January 08 2011 18:50 Adebisi wrote:
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On January 08 2011 18:41 exarchrum wrote:
Ok I'm going to have a serious response in this post....

Artosis and Tasteless went crazy over what July was doing. But I was a little confused as to what was so radical about July's build. From my understanding, the terran saw his expo, therefore thought that was what July was doing. But instead July cancelled the hatch, and put down a baneling nest. July put the baneling nest down exactly where the hatch was (using the hatch,cancel trick)

Did it matter that July placed the baneling nest where the hatch was, in order to trick future scouting operations into thinking the baneling nest was still a hatch. Or was it just the fact that July knew the terran saw his initial hatch so the terran wouldn't expect aggression that early?

I don't really understand the advantage either, Slush did the same thing with a baneling nest hidden elsewhere on the map before which seems to make sense, but if that scv opts not to leave, and proxy bunkers are pretty damn common on Delta, that if the Terran player sees its a baneling nest they just fortify their wall and its gg?



The trick is that as soon as terran sees the expo go down they assume they're safe from a 1base baneling bust, and there's probably 5 or so minutes before a Kyrix-style bust is possible. Cancelling the hatchery and putting the banelings nest there protects against scans in the main, and it also protects against a terran player who might pop back in but not click on the morphing building.

What happens is that the baneling bust occurs far before the terran player would be prepared for it. If the Zerg player doesn't expand, that's a tell to the Terran that something is up.
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