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NathanNever
17 Posts
I'd like to know: 1. Wich are the best terran units to counter the roach. 2. If a zerg player arrive at the terran base with 11 roach around 8'.00''. What is the best answare that a terran player can do in that time? Also to get advantage of this situation and maybe win the game? Thank you. | ||
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
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Phyrigian
New Zealand1332 Posts
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Shron
United States162 Posts
If you scout a zerg staying on one-base, make a bunker and get some marauders. Then, after you hold off their attack, eventually push them back with marauders and marines. | ||
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entername
Canada2 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
Try doing a FE marine/tank build. 0 gas, then go double rax, then go double gas once you've started your command center. You'll be able to get tanks (even siege if you desire) in time. And if not you'll have ethier a) enough marines to handle them. b) a bunker in place to deter the roaches from comming in. Best way to handle this is to make sure you're scouting nice and good, if there are watch-towers you need units at them (1 dead marine > seeing an incomming attack always and forever) and if you do scout a roach warren or something to suggest an early attack (1 base, banelings nest, etc etc) then bunker up. It's 100% free if you made a mistake and you'll be kicking yourself if a bunker could have turned the tide. | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On November 28 2010 18:06 Talack wrote: Tanks eat roaches in a way that mauraders get wet dreams of. Try doing a FE marine/tank build. 0 gas, then go double rax, then go double gas once you've started your command center. You'll be able to get tanks (even siege if you desire) in time. And if not you'll have ethier a) enough marines to handle them. b) a bunker in place to deter the roaches from comming in. Best way to handle this is to make sure you're scouting nice and good, if there are watch-towers you need units at them (1 dead marine > seeing an incomming attack always and forever) and if you do scout a roach warren or something to suggest an early attack (1 base, banelings nest, etc etc) then bunker up. It's 100% free if you made a mistake and you'll be kicking yourself if a bunker could have turned the tide. Not sure to understand... If you want to show ur strategy then post another thread, we're talking about what's best units to counter roach. Not a strategy to have tank and expand at 8'00. I'm not sure he's diamond, so why would you suggest a strategy that he'll eventually figure out once he becomes good ? Sorry if i've been a little harsh. But yeah to op : marauders and later tanks are your best choice. If not maybe a bunker with marines if you didn't want to make a tech lab (happen often lately on most tvz games, especially at early stages). | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
Furthermore, roaches can't shoot up so anything that is "up" and can shoot down would be considered a counter. If off creep; learning how to kite would help a lot Edit: learning how to kite helps anyway but the speed bonus on creep makes it more micro intensive | ||
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jgreen46
Canada94 Posts
On November 28 2010 17:45 3xiLe wrote: To be honest, you don't sound very high level, so i won't give a very detailed answered as it would actually make the concept harder. If you see a roach warren, tanks and mauraders are a good bet. If hes only on 1 base and no 2nd hatchery and it fails, you pretty much have the game. this should be considerred trolling | ||
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NathanNever
17 Posts
On November 28 2010 17:45 3xiLe wrote: To be honest, you don't sound very high level, so i won't give a very detailed answered as it would actually make the concept harder. ... I'm EU 2k diamond player, first of my ladder group. Is high enough? If you don't belive me simply ask me with a pm I'll give you my nick.  It's not a problem to me to win vs a rush roach. I just want to know wich is the best way.  Usually I don't like to use marauder and tank vs zerg. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Larrie
United Kingdom46 Posts
On November 28 2010 18:33 NathanNever wrote: I'm EU 2k diamond player, first of my ladder group. Is high enough? If you don't belive me simply ask me with a pm I'll give you my nick. It's not a problem to me to win vs a rush roach. I just want to know wich is the best way. Usually I don't like to use marauder and tank vs zerg. Yet you need to ask what counters roaches as terran. Could it be Marauders, with their 20 damage vs armoured? If you got to 2000 diamond without knowing about what unit counters what I think it says a lot about the terran race right now. Either that or you're an idiot who just wanted to make a topic to feel important. | ||
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NathanNever
17 Posts
On November 28 2010 18:39 Tobberoth wrote: And I don't like to use banelings vs terran but I'm obviously gonna if he goes loads of barracks. If you're really 2k diamond, you should probably know that you can't just pick any build order you want regardless of your opponent. If Zerg goes mass roach, you need marauders, whether you like it or not. To me banshee are better vs roach, then marauder. Beacuse banshee can't be reach by roach, and are more usefull in a tvz game. I don't like to use marauder and tank vs zerg 'cause of mutalisk harass. Maybe the best answare is to use marine and banshee. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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klauz619
453 Posts
Early on you definitely want marauders, but once you get all the good upgrades marines with medivacs will easily be able to stand up against them, unupgraded marines lose like 4:1 however. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Answer #1: MaRAWders Answer #2: Macro well with a good build order. best would be like 20 Marauders with conc and stim, you won't lose an unit. EDIT: If you really are 2000 diamond there's some huge inflation or this is some kind of a fishing thread | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
2. I play 1/1/1 (single gas) expand (2nd gas after). This allows me to produce a banshee right as the starport finishes which can fend off roaches. | ||
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
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hoovehand
United Kingdom542 Posts
i can remember multiple games where i've won huge battles vs roaches and my tanks have like 20 kills each.. in one game i remember a tank having 35 kills. | ||
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djdoodoo
United Kingdom192 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On November 28 2010 17:41 NathanNever wrote: 2. If a zerg player arrive at the terran base with 11 roach around 8'.00''. What is the best answare that a terran player can do in that time? Also to get advantage of this situation and maybe win the game? Bunkers with marauders and mass repair. You tech to Banshees and win if Z is still on one base. | ||
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klauz619
453 Posts
If the map isn't delta quadrant or lost temple I'd just use marauders. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Thats a more problematic scenario. | ||
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Bonkerz
United States831 Posts
Best unit is marauder | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
2. If a zerg player arrive at the terran base with 11 roach around 8'.00''. What is the best answare that a terran player can do in that time? Also to get advantage of this situation and maybe win the game? You may be thinking about the game wrong. Don't think about what you can do to stop the attack from that point forward. Think about what you could have done instead up to that point to make the attack ineffective. If you're in the enemy's face a lot, they'll be making a lot of units instead of drones and that attack you're talking about will either never come at all, or end up much weaker. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
On November 28 2010 17:45 3xiLe wrote: To be honest, you don't sound very high level, so i won't give a very detailed answered as it would actually make the concept harder. Marauders are the best answer at the 8 minute mark to decimate the roaches. Conc shell or without. Also Marines with shield upgrade and stim clean up roaches cost for cost. I believe there was a thread showing this somewhere. But marauders. | ||
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