EPTIn the OP you say that battle-cruisers should no longer be used due to the damage nerf in patch 1.1. Do you think that the speed buff in patch 1.3 has made BCs usable again in this build?
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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
In the OP you say that battle-cruisers should no longer be used due to the damage nerf in patch 1.1. Do you think that the speed buff in patch 1.3 has made BCs usable again in this build? | ||
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J0ko
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I have altered the build a little bit though. I've found that as I moved up to high-plat and now diamond, a lot of toss players see the hellion drop coming and can either forcefield the hellions from the probes or just kill them with stalkers waiting in the mineral line. With this in mind, unless the spawn positions are close by air, I forego the hellion drop and use the minerals saved to drop an expansion cc after I get my first starport up. This allows me to have economy to fall back on if my push fails while not really putting me that behind on army. Thoughts? | ||
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legend4411
Canada21 Posts
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
On July 30 2011 13:28 legend4411 wrote: Dose it work against master protoss? This is a strategy that does not rely on your opponent fucking up, so yea, it will work against masters toss. Like all 1 base plays however, if it is scouted you and they react properly with a nexus followed by pheonix, then you will either straight up die, or be significantly behind. | ||
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Sidistyk
United States16 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On January 06 2012 16:37 Sidistyk wrote: Is this build still viable? i would say so, but with warp prism play becoming a lot more popular its easy for protoss to bypass you bunker defense. so in other words, not if hes going quick robo | ||
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Nexic
United States729 Posts
On January 06 2012 16:37 Sidistyk wrote: Viable to win ladder games yeah, but I don't think it's a solid style to play in TvP. There's a reason you don't see it in high level games, I'd say most people consider it pretty gimmicky. Is this build still viable? | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
On January 07 2012 06:57 Nexic wrote: Viable to win ladder games yeah, but I don't think it's a solid style to play in TvP. There's a reason you don't see it in high level games, I'd say most people consider it pretty gimmicky. I agree. Not solid, any decent player knows he cannot identify 1/1/1 and so if no marauders gets robo at like 32 food and then an obs when it done. You can pretty much infer from a starport+reactor and a couple hellions lying around, or even a no add-on factory that you could see hellion drops. Basically if u see medivac with obs, doesn't matter whats in them, P is going to prepare vs drop. | ||
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Sidistyk
United States16 Posts
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KenDM
Netherlands206 Posts
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Sidistyk
United States16 Posts
On January 08 2012 22:50 KenDM wrote: What about 4Gates or 3gate robo's? What if he decides to basetrade? I would have to watch the replays again to check, there are about 6 of them I think and I am sure he encounters both those scenarios (4 gate and 3 gate+robo) with no issues. As for a base trade, well, don't get caught out of position =] I still have not tried the build yet. I have been out of game for 5 months and still working on getting my hands back, focusing on macro exercises etc.... However, I am looking for builds to start practicing to hit ladder in the next week or so when I am feeling up to par... Hence my interest in this build since a friend recommended it... | ||
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JanLui
France50 Posts
hellion and banshees TvP ? remember this build is still viable to win ladder games specially if you see more and more immortals like nowadays  I'm silver EU matched vs gold and plat, here is a replay vs plat protoss (practice), on OHANA, vs 3gate expo followed by phoenixes http://drop.sc/289781 | ||
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
On January 01 2013 21:03 JanLui wrote: hihi boys and girls and HAPPY NEW YEAR iECHOIC !!! hellion and banshees TvP ? remember this build is still viable to win ladder games specially if you see more and more immortals like nowadays I'm silver EU matched vs gold and plat, here is a replay vs plat protoss (practice), on OHANA, vs 3gate expo followed by phoenixes http://drop.sc/289781 Anything is viable in silver, I'm glad this works for you still but you probably didn't need to revive this thread. | ||
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