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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 25 2010 18:07 GMT
#21
i saw the replay and you did have enough lings but you just wasted them. most ppl are telling you how to prevent him from setting up cannons but you didnt do that. at that stage when he has that many cannons up it was too late to try kill them with lings. you should have gotten ling speed with ur extractor and ran by and destroyed his base.
SuperDoremon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States20 Posts
May 25 2010 18:23 GMT
#22
Here you go. This is in one of my placement game. I play protoss but ur drones should be able to do the same thing

Replay: http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/6472
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
May 25 2010 18:40 GMT
#23
On May 26 2010 03:23 SuperDoremon wrote:
Here you go. This is in one of my placement game. I play protoss but ur drones should be able to do the same thing

Replay: http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/6472


that was just the worst cannon rush ever

im not even gonna go into that replay...
you played decently ... but your opponent >_<
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SuperDoremon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States20 Posts
May 25 2010 18:43 GMT
#24
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 25 2010 19:05 GMT
#25
On May 26 2010 03:43 SuperDoremon wrote:
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!

That's not entirely true.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
shinigami
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada423 Posts
May 25 2010 19:38 GMT
#26
On May 26 2010 03:43 SuperDoremon wrote:
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!


Good players do use them, if it has a relatively high chance of succeeding. It's the very cheap tricks that allow you to get ahead of your opponent.

As for stopping cannon rushing, the best medicine is scouting.
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graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
May 25 2010 19:41 GMT
#27
how many drones kill 1 newly placed pylon?
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Skwonky
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 19:50:44
May 25 2010 19:45 GMT
#28
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)


Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 20:16:38
May 25 2010 20:02 GMT
#29
On May 26 2010 04:41 graphene wrote:
how many drones kill 1 newly placed pylon?


Well, let's see. 200sp, 200hp, 1 armour and builds in 25 seconds.

It'll take 90 hits from workers to kill the thing by the time it completes.

A worker attacks every 1.5 seconds, so you can get off 16 volleys before it completes, so that's at least 6 workers attacking it from the moment it starts building, to kill the thing.

Compared to a Photon Cannon, with 150/150 and builds in 40 seconds...

68 hits to kill the Cannon, 26 volleys in 40 seconds, only 2.5 workers needed. So, throw 3 or 4 workers on it (because they'll arrive late) and you'll easily kill it before it completes. Take the same concept to the Pylon and you're talking about 9 workers needed to kill a Pylon if you react to it being built.

If you just assume a 5-second late arrival of the Probes, then it'll take 7 (6.9) workers to kill the Pylon and 3 (2.6) workers to kill the Photon Cannon.
EyMiller245
Profile Joined April 2010
United States45 Posts
May 25 2010 20:15 GMT
#30
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


I thought he was gonna put a gateway in your base instead of nexus, lol. Anyway, that was fun to watch
iShotyoMoM
Profile Joined May 2010
United States43 Posts
May 25 2010 21:11 GMT
#31
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


el oh el @ protoss

who the hell put nexus

should have put more cannons or gateways
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bakin1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States32 Posts
May 27 2010 18:26 GMT
#32
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


Next time just attack the cannon as soon as it starts. Screw the pylons, that would just be 200 min he wasted. Usually cannon rushes aren't that obvious though.
I sometimes wish I had no life, thus more SC2 time.
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