• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:29
CET 15:29
KST 23:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1644 users

[H] How to block early photon canon - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 25 2010 18:07 GMT
#21
i saw the replay and you did have enough lings but you just wasted them. most ppl are telling you how to prevent him from setting up cannons but you didnt do that. at that stage when he has that many cannons up it was too late to try kill them with lings. you should have gotten ling speed with ur extractor and ran by and destroyed his base.
SuperDoremon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States20 Posts
May 25 2010 18:23 GMT
#22
Here you go. This is in one of my placement game. I play protoss but ur drones should be able to do the same thing

Replay: http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/6472
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
May 25 2010 18:40 GMT
#23
On May 26 2010 03:23 SuperDoremon wrote:
Here you go. This is in one of my placement game. I play protoss but ur drones should be able to do the same thing

Replay: http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/6472


that was just the worst cannon rush ever

im not even gonna go into that replay...
you played decently ... but your opponent >_<
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
SuperDoremon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States20 Posts
May 25 2010 18:43 GMT
#24
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 25 2010 19:05 GMT
#25
On May 26 2010 03:43 SuperDoremon wrote:
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!

That's not entirely true.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
shinigami
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada423 Posts
May 25 2010 19:38 GMT
#26
On May 26 2010 03:43 SuperDoremon wrote:
well it's just an example of some cannon rush. Based on his opponent having like 300 mineral at home, I would say those 2 guys are the same level. And plus, good players dont use these cheap tricks!


Good players do use them, if it has a relatively high chance of succeeding. It's the very cheap tricks that allow you to get ahead of your opponent.

As for stopping cannon rushing, the best medicine is scouting.
I was thinking about joining a debate club, but I was talked out of it.
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
May 25 2010 19:41 GMT
#27
how many drones kill 1 newly placed pylon?
cloud computing is the future
Skwonky
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 19:50:44
May 25 2010 19:45 GMT
#28
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)


Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 20:16:38
May 25 2010 20:02 GMT
#29
On May 26 2010 04:41 graphene wrote:
how many drones kill 1 newly placed pylon?


Well, let's see. 200sp, 200hp, 1 armour and builds in 25 seconds.

It'll take 90 hits from workers to kill the thing by the time it completes.

A worker attacks every 1.5 seconds, so you can get off 16 volleys before it completes, so that's at least 6 workers attacking it from the moment it starts building, to kill the thing.

Compared to a Photon Cannon, with 150/150 and builds in 40 seconds...

68 hits to kill the Cannon, 26 volleys in 40 seconds, only 2.5 workers needed. So, throw 3 or 4 workers on it (because they'll arrive late) and you'll easily kill it before it completes. Take the same concept to the Pylon and you're talking about 9 workers needed to kill a Pylon if you react to it being built.

If you just assume a 5-second late arrival of the Probes, then it'll take 7 (6.9) workers to kill the Pylon and 3 (2.6) workers to kill the Photon Cannon.
EyMiller245
Profile Joined April 2010
United States45 Posts
May 25 2010 20:15 GMT
#30
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


I thought he was gonna put a gateway in your base instead of nexus, lol. Anyway, that was fun to watch
iShotyoMoM
Profile Joined May 2010
United States43 Posts
May 25 2010 21:11 GMT
#31
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


el oh el @ protoss

who the hell put nexus

should have put more cannons or gateways
[High Templar #1]: Wanna merge? [High Templar #2]: Archon me, baby
bakin1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States32 Posts
May 27 2010 18:26 GMT
#32
On May 26 2010 04:45 Skwonky wrote:
Here is a Terran game i played against a cannon rush:
(keep in mind that I'm not that good at this game =o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOyP0p7uEE


Next time just attack the cannon as soon as it starts. Screw the pylons, that would just be 200 min he wasted. Usually cannon rushes aren't that obvious though.
I sometimes wish I had no life, thus more SC2 time.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
14:00
King of the Hill #234
SteadfastSC27
iHatsuTV 6
Liquipedia
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Playoffs
Clem vs CreatorLIVE!
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
WardiTV1632
ComeBackTV 1249
TaKeTV 412
IndyStarCraft 205
Rex109
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko366
IndyStarCraft 205
Harstem 193
Rex 109
ProTech36
SteadfastSC 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32017
Calm 4987
GuemChi 2388
Rain 2199
Bisu 2119
Stork 847
Horang2 804
actioN 569
Shuttle 438
Larva 298
[ Show more ]
firebathero 266
Mini 233
ggaemo 176
hero 172
Mind 168
Killer 149
Hyun 92
Aegong 90
Barracks 86
Zeus 74
JYJ 66
Snow 64
Sea.KH 62
Bale 50
ToSsGirL 48
Shinee 46
soO 31
zelot 22
Mong 22
910 20
sorry 18
Sacsri 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
GoRush 13
Terrorterran 13
JulyZerg 13
scan(afreeca) 11
Shine 8
SilentControl 5
Dota 2
Gorgc4654
singsing3361
qojqva1541
XcaliburYe133
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0356
Counter-Strike
allub270
oskar110
Other Games
B2W.Neo1553
hiko449
crisheroes418
Fuzer 282
XaKoH 154
djWHEAT41
Trikslyr24
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1164
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2h 31m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
The PiG Daily
6h 31m
SHIN vs ByuN
Reynor vs Classic
TBD vs herO
Maru vs SHIN
TBD vs Classic
CranKy Ducklings
19h 31m
WardiTV 2025
20h 31m
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
22h 1m
Ladder Legends
1d 4h
BSL 21
1d 5h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.