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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
March 05 2010 12:40 GMT
#21
I don't like how the enemy can see the enemy sensor range. On Scrap Yard or whatever gay fuck name that map is. I like to take the island and it would be AWESOME to put a sensor tower there to make sure I don't get dropped but nooooooooooooooo can't alert the enemy that i'm there. Bleh...

I find Sensor Towers to be a great way to see if Toss have obs in your base or if Zerg Roaches are trying to burrow past your forces or something. I like to place them around a player I know I have contained to make sure nothing slips past.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
March 05 2010 18:31 GMT
#22
On March 05 2010 19:11 Odds wrote:
Your opponent should really only be able to see the radius if he's scouted the tower itself. =/


I wholeheartedly agree with you here. Being able to suddenly see a radius for something you haven't even seen yet from the fog of war is completely stupid. This should really apply to seige tanks as well.
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dustdust
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 18:42:26
March 05 2010 18:42 GMT
#23
with one or two sensor towers I can keep my tanks unsieged all the time and siege/move them appropriately as soon as I see red dots incoming.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
March 05 2010 18:53 GMT
#24
On March 05 2010 21:40 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I find Sensor Towers to be a great way to see if Toss have obs in your base or if Zerg Roaches are trying to burrow past your forces or something. I like to place them around a player I know I have contained to make sure nothing slips past.


What? Sensor Towers don't detect cloaked or burrowed units, no?
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 05 2010 19:12 GMT
#25
sensor towers helped me ALOT in a game i played just 5 mins ago.

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Protoss killed the rocks @my backramp in early game so there was the threat of getting my main raped all the time. i build 2 sensor towers to see if his units some to attack my base and was able to prepare well with sieged twanks and stuff when he tries to attack @ backramp.

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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 05 2010 19:13 GMT
#26
On March 06 2010 03:53 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 21:40 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I find Sensor Towers to be a great way to see if Toss have obs in your base or if Zerg Roaches are trying to burrow past your forces or something. I like to place them around a player I know I have contained to make sure nothing slips past.


What? Sensor Towers don't detect cloaked or burrowed units, no?


they dont detect them as in you cant attack them, but they still show that they are there with those little red circles.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 05 2010 19:17 GMT
#27
The problem I find with the sensor tower is that it helps your opponent too much. With such a steep cost, it should be like any other building or unit that only helps you. Against a sensor tower, I would walk a dozen probes towards one of their bases, and a few seconds later, send my main force to attack another base.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 05 2010 19:23 GMT
#28
Wouldn´t you rather use Hallucinations?
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 19:26:35
March 05 2010 19:25 GMT
#29
I found the sensor tower quite usefull against zerg, if he went heavy air.
You alredy have an Enginering bay in that matchup because of the turrets you need vs mutalisk. So the sensor tower is alredy unlocked , and it realy payes to have him against mutas, so your marines can see from which side the mutas will come. It counters muta harass quite well, since you always know from which side they are coming. It makes a huge difference for your marine force.
But except that matchup ,i didn't realy found it usefull.
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Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
March 05 2010 19:28 GMT
#30
On March 06 2010 04:13 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2010 03:53 adelarge wrote:
On March 05 2010 21:40 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I find Sensor Towers to be a great way to see if Toss have obs in your base or if Zerg Roaches are trying to burrow past your forces or something. I like to place them around a player I know I have contained to make sure nothing slips past.


What? Sensor Towers don't detect cloaked or burrowed units, no?


they dont detect them as in you cant attack them, but they still show that they are there with those little red circles.


No they dont. they dont show stealth units at all (not 100% sure about burrowed..)
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
March 05 2010 20:03 GMT
#31
I like the concept of sensor towers and agree they can be quite useful. But the 2 major drawbacks (high cost and enemy being able to see radius) make me feel they aren't worth it in most cases. The only time I ever really bother to think about using them is if my opponent is doing a heavy air or drop based strategy. There is something about your enemy knowing that you know that bothers me, especially at the cost of 100 gas. The radius being shown makes them worthless for using at a hidden base. If they cost less gas or the radius wasn't shown I'd probably use them a lot more.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 05 2010 20:09 GMT
#32
I can definitely see how, on certain maps, it could be a great tool for scouting to put up a Sensor Tower at some key locations.
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 05 2010 20:53 GMT
#33
finally they have been proven to have an actual USE! YES!
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Antpile
Profile Joined March 2009
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 23:35:09
March 05 2010 23:32 GMT
#34
These things are ridiculously useful.

As a zerg player, I find them very annoying when the terran puts one at each expo because it basically shuts down all herassment and shows him any nydus worms immediately. I can no longer get my mutas any where near any of his mineral lines without ten thousand marines already sitting there waiting for me. Same goes for a big ground force heading for one of his expos. Basically, I can never catch the terran unprepared again.

It is definitely worth putting up once you've gone to two bases unless you put the second in some goofy place in an attempt to hide it. If you just expanded your nat, it's not like they won't find it or anything, so you should put the tower down as soon as your defenses are set. This way, one army can defend both bases due to having warning of any incoming attacks.

This thing is worth it's weight in gold. Just imagine how much BS this thing will stop over the course of your SC2 career. How many cheesy drops, nydus worms, or muta surprises this thing will save you from and hence how many games you would have lost that you end up winning just because of spending 100 gas. You'd be crazy not to use these.

The radius needs to be viewable though. This thing is basically built in maphack.

One piece of advice i will give though is to place the tower someplace there is a bunch of missile turrets, because I WILL snipe that thing with my mutas if I can.
brocoli
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 23:51:01
March 05 2010 23:50 GMT
#35
They are ridiculously good already.
Just go and watch any replay with them in action.

But regarding siege tanks, it is really a shame that the radius is visible for them =/

@Chairman Ray:
this is kinda risky... if those probes get scanned, they'll be Viking'd/Banshee'd for sure.
Roulette36
Profile Joined October 2009
United States55 Posts
March 05 2010 23:57 GMT
#36
does the blimps show up on the mini map?
Foxhawk
Profile Joined December 2009
United States41 Posts
March 05 2010 23:59 GMT
#37
I like them vs reapers if I can afford it.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 00:05:47
March 06 2010 00:05 GMT
#38
they r good lategame tvt when the map is split, u can see which direction he moves without having to scan all the time. the cost is nothing since ur rich with 200 psi :p

i dont like that my opponent can see my sensor array area tho, thats pretty retarded
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 06 2010 00:10 GMT
#39
They're good vs nydus worms
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Twe3k
Profile Joined August 2009
89 Posts
March 06 2010 00:19 GMT
#40
They are useless early on. During one of my first games on Beta, I made a sensor tower thinking it would detect cloak... yeah I definitely lost that game.

SENSOR TOWER DOES NOT SEE CLOAK!

But I think I might need to start incorporating them in to my game play more during Mid to late game. Map control becomes very important as Terran and this building allows it to happen.
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