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Cryptious
Profile Joined September 2016
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 17:34:30
April 08 2019 16:01 GMT
#1
Hi
I run the sc2ai.net ladder for sc2 bots. We recently just finished our 7th season for the next season. Up until now we've just been using the standard ladder maps, but this poses a couple of problems this time round, with features that pose some issues for bots, so I though I'd ask here if anyone had any good suggestions for maps that can be used for bots to fight it out.

Particular features that make good bot maps include:

* Currently only 2 player maps are acceptable
* Symetrical maps that don't give an obvious advantage to either players
* Watchtowers - not required, but add an extra dimension to early games
* Rich mineral patches - again not required, but can add extra decision paths

Things that we should avoid
* Non-standard blockers - such as the air blockers on Stasis or Year Zero
* Anything funky like bases only accessible by air, or anything like that
* Older maps that may have very exploitable features on LotV, such as places where liberators can snipe from without being vulnerable to ground units

I'd love to have your thoughts on what maps you think might be fun. We're going to have a 3 week pre-season period where we'll try these out

Thanks
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay211 Posts
April 08 2019 19:10 GMT
#2
Ohhh nice 👀

Are there any specific stipulations besides those outlined?

Last month finished the TLMC#12, and there are a considerably amount of high quality maps that you might be interesting in looking into, here's a unnoficial listing of maps in case you might be interested

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/540629-team-liquid-map-contest-12?page=5#81

@Kantuva | Mapmaker | TLMC Volunteer Admin | Join us on: https://mapcave.net/discord
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 08 2019 19:19 GMT
#3
A majority of maps produced nowadays fall into the bucket of "2 player symmetrical maps without air blockers or special features". So you could use maps from the most recent map contest: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/542149-team-liquid-map-contest-12-finalists (from the Standard and Macro categories ofc. AIs will no doubt have trouble with Inhibitor Zones or especially mineral walls). While gold bases and watchtowers aren't particularly popular these days, I'm sure there are a few suitable maps among the submissions: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/540629-team-liquid-map-contest-12?page=5#81.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 08 2019 19:55 GMT
#4
There are finalists from previous Teamliquid map contests that didn't get added into the ladder. Those got a QA check. You can find all these maps below by searching [TLMC10] and [TLMC11] on bnet and they can be opened.

In tlmc 10, there are Treachery, Kherissan rift (are rock towers ok?), Artana and Digital frontier. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/531160-team-liquid-map-contest-10-finalists

And in tlmc 11, there is Reminiscence. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/535967-team-liquid-map-contest-11-finalists

You will probably find something that fits your needs here.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Pklixian
Profile Joined October 2017
Canada81 Posts
April 08 2019 19:58 GMT
#5
Though as said,
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/542149-team-liquid-map-contest-12-finalists Is one of the best sources for maps that can qualify for what you may want. But I can also recommend some of my most recent maps.

The Timeless Wild
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Snowy Vanguard
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Urzagol
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These 3 maps may be up to what you want, and are some of the best I can recommend regarding myself.
TLMC10 and 11 finalist might be a good source as well.
TLMC11 5th place finalist, Team TLMC2 3x finalist, aspiring mapmaker with dreams of success.
Cryptious
Profile Joined September 2016
7 Posts
April 08 2019 20:08 GMT
#6
Cool, I'll take a look thanks.

Theres no specific stipulations at the moment, although I would say that we don't want anything too crazy, but I'm definately open to some novel ideas
KillerSmile
Profile Joined November 2018
Germany91 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 21:04:08
April 08 2019 20:56 GMT
#7
TLMC 12 all the way!

If you want super uncomplicated and right inbetween macro and standard I'd say take a look at Heatwave by themusic246.
Want to see if the AI can handle chokes? Ephemeron by negativezero.
And of course tlmc 12 winner Acropolis by RQM has a xelnaga tower in a strategically super interesting position.

The most uncomplicated map with gold bases is most likely Treachery(TLMC 10 finalist) as previously mentioned. High yield is not much done anymore ordinarily. Technically Acid Plant has them, but it's not very likely to come into play and Automatons setup might confuse the AI. Maybe Quiant by samro225am is also a good option in that category and hasn't had much exposure outside of the map-ximum contest.

Overlooked and right up your alley would be Artana and Digital Frontier(can only agree with Superouman on those).

If you want to go for oldschool there is always Overgrowth(XNT and gold bases) and Catalyst(Deepmind AI demo).



Mapmaker, author of Mothership LE, 10000 Feet LE, Data-C, Solaris, Ley Lines, Torches and Reclamation LE
Cryptious
Profile Joined September 2016
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 22:32:00
April 08 2019 22:31 GMT
#8
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. For this week, we're going with:
Urzagol [PLX]
The Timeless Wild [PLX]
[TLMC12] Bandwidth
SNL Sanglune
STC - Primus Q-9
[TLMC12] Ephemeron
[TLMC11] Reminiscence

We'll cycle these next week for the 3 weeks we're running the pre-season and see what works best, so keep the suggestions coming, all very welcome
josephkarl
Profile Joined April 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 06:52:07
April 09 2019 06:52 GMT
#9
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
whoopsome
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway41 Posts
April 09 2019 18:34 GMT
#10
I might be stupid, but how do i watch the replays? Only says unable to load map...
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
April 10 2019 06:34 GMT
#11
you need to have the exact same map version
get the current (preseason) ladder maps here
http://sc2ai.net/LadderMaps.zip
if you need a map that is not in that zip, i can upload it for you
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
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