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This is another Broodwarport from this map: http://i.imgur.com/c207Dkj.jpg
I dont know the name of this map or who made it but anyways, credits to him.
I tried to get as close to the Jungle Tileset as possible and i think it turned out pretty cool, i love the white skeletons 
The Overview is kinda ugly but it looks better from the ingame view. Also i used this name before but that was like 3 years ago and no one cares for that map anways^^
Uploaded on EU
General:
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Playable: 128x152
Expands: 8 + 2 semi + 2 small
Xel'Naga: 0
Rush Distance: ~140 nat/nat
Pictures:
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Eh? This is my map.. o.o!
I like it.
Reapers could be a pain. 
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Very cool aesthetics. Nice design crystaldrag. :D
I think for SC2 the ramp at the 4th base with rocks should definitely be like... 3x. Otherwise it's super easy to defend 3.75 bases, the only real danger being drops in the main, and that is not that bad considering we've seen people defend drops fine on a map like Daybreak with similar exposure. I think this would also pull people up to the wide path where it loops around into the middle, which is kind of the point of the map.
Mereel you're on a roll.
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Woah really cool map! I love it.
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Why aren't the middle bases 8m2g? It's a full base in the BW version and seems completely worth it for sc2. Perhaps concerns about a forward planetary fortress? But it's a far 4th or a 5th base...
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Dammit meerel why are your maps so sexy.
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I kinda disagree w/ some of the choices (middle expos being 8m1g, full third being easier to defend than the partial third) but the aesthetics are super cute and the terrain looks fun, esp. the main/nat setup
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With two 8m1g base per side I feel like there is one base missing
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Wow, this is a great map. BW maps seem more viable now in HotS than they ever were in WoL.
I don't feel like the destructible rocks are necessary by the third ramp. It's already a 1x ramp, I don't see why it should also have rocks.
I like the path around the natural into the main, that's a very clever set up. I hope that defending the natural choke, which is on equal ground as the main, and that ramp doesn't prove too difficult.
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Can't say how it works for HotS, but after having played a couple of Starbow games on it, I gotta say that I love this map, awesome job :D
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Don't really agree with the fact that you are unable to forge FE on this map, if you added rocks or something to the ramp then I could see it working though.
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On June 20 2013 09:00 Whiplash wrote:
Don't really agree with the fact that you are unable to forge FE on this map, if you added rocks or something to the ramp then I could see it working though. So let me get this straight, you don't agree with a strategy which pretty much everyone agrees bores the game up, leads to little interaction between players, and isn't needed for balance isn't possible on a map?
I thought the job of mappers was to eliminate such strategies from the game or at least severely discourage them. Not change the concept of a map to suit them?
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United States10537 Posts
1 base play lets goooo :D
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There are more ways to expand than forge FE. Gateway expands have been extremely popular lately and thank god because they generate more interaction than a pylon block in the first 9 minutes of the game.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
This map reminds me a lot about Brood War, just because epic aesthetics
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On June 20 2013 10:42 SiskosGoatee wrote:
There are more ways to expand than forge FE. Gateway expands have been extremely popular lately and thank god because they generate more interaction than a pylon block in the first 9 minutes of the game.
There are no "more ways", there is exactly one more way to play, which is 1-gateway expand with slight modifications depending mainly on your level of greed and courage. Everything else is utter rubbish, particularly on a 140s nat-nat map And that is a problem - this map eliminates the possibility of a FFE, so the Zerg knows you are going to 1-gate FE before he starts his first drone. I am not a very big fan of FFE, but the whole possibility of it makes 1-gate FE stronger.
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On June 21 2013 02:18 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 10:42 SiskosGoatee wrote:
There are more ways to expand than forge FE. Gateway expands have been extremely popular lately and thank god because they generate more interaction than a pylon block in the first 9 minutes of the game. There are no "more ways", there is exactly one more way to play, which is 1-gateway expand with slight modifications depending mainly on your level of greed and courage. Nonsense, in PvZ you can do forge expand, 1 gas gateway expand pressure, 2gas gateway expand, oracle expand, 2gate stalker pressure expand, dt expand.
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i think he meant on this specific map :-P
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Is there any reason you can't do all those strats on that specific map?
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On June 20 2013 09:39 SiskosGoatee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 09:00 Whiplash wrote:
Don't really agree with the fact that you are unable to forge FE on this map, if you added rocks or something to the ramp then I could see it working though. So let me get this straight, you don't agree with a strategy which pretty much everyone agrees bores the game up, leads to little interaction between players, and isn't needed for balance isn't possible on a map? I thought the job of mappers was to eliminate such strategies from the game or at least severely discourage them. Not change the concept of a map to suit them?
part of the strength of 1 gate FE vs zerg is your opponent never being 100% sure if you are going for that or the forge expand. This takes 100% of the guesswork away and allows zerg to abuse that type of play a lot easier, the map isn't balanced this way.
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On June 21 2013 09:24 Whiplash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 09:39 SiskosGoatee wrote:On June 20 2013 09:00 Whiplash wrote:
Don't really agree with the fact that you are unable to forge FE on this map, if you added rocks or something to the ramp then I could see it working though. So let me get this straight, you don't agree with a strategy which pretty much everyone agrees bores the game up, leads to little interaction between players, and isn't needed for balance isn't possible on a map? I thought the job of mappers was to eliminate such strategies from the game or at least severely discourage them. Not change the concept of a map to suit them? part of the strength of 1 gate FE vs zerg is your opponent never being 100% sure if you are going for that or the forge expand. This takes 100% of the guesswork away and allows zerg to abuse that type of play a lot easier, the map isn't balanced this way. There are protoss players who gate FE every game and are known for it. I don't buy it. If you drone scout with it like you really should you also aren't going to get 3-hatch-before-pool'ed.
And still, that doesn't eliminate all the other openers I mentioned.
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On June 21 2013 03:57 SiskosGoatee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 02:18 opisska wrote:On June 20 2013 10:42 SiskosGoatee wrote:
There are more ways to expand than forge FE. Gateway expands have been extremely popular lately and thank god because they generate more interaction than a pylon block in the first 9 minutes of the game. There are no "more ways", there is exactly one more way to play, which is 1-gateway expand with slight modifications depending mainly on your level of greed and courage. Nonsense, in PvZ you can do forge expand, 1 gas gateway expand pressure, 2gas gateway expand, oracle expand, 2gate stalker pressure expand, dt expand.
Can you point me to any high-level (GSL/OSL/SPL) games with successfull DT or Oracle-based expands (that is, when the DTs or Oracles are not on the back of an FFE?). I haven't seen any, but that may be just my ignorance and in such a case, I would be willing to partially retract my comment. (I still hold that any gateway pressure is not very good for this map).
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