@fatam: What are the distances? It seems quite short main ramp to main ramp. And nat2nat of course, even moreso with the rocks gone. I feel as though you're expanding towards the opponent too soon -- by the 4th base at the latest. And the smallness of the map amplifies this. For example in the SE quadrant the two highground bases can't really be claimed steadily by either player at the same time. There could be some improvements on both halves of the map by changing ramp directions and such to make it a little harder to get between sides.

Zweck

Germany211 Posts

March 24 2015 15:52 GMT

#3302

heyhey, any ideas on my latest WIP?:

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Ah,
and any idea for a good name maybe? :D

have a great day folks

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

March 24 2015 15:59 GMT

#3303

I think that getting a fourth is way way too hard, and I'm no fan of the huge airspace behing the main. Apart from that it looks sexy though. For the names, Hepatic Clearance, Blooming Garden, Distress Not, Distressed Note, Adverse Effect, Ghost Crows, Undergrowth,...

linwqdwqdwqd77

Albania3 Posts

March 24 2015 16:05 GMT

#3304

--- Nuked ---

Zweck

Germany211 Posts

March 24 2015 17:29 GMT

#3305

I like undergrowth :D:D Thx for comment, maybe im gonna change the 4th a bit.
And the Airspace is not going to be fully usable, there s going to be some airspace blockers in the corner...

Magorion

Canada11 Posts

March 25 2015 18:23 GMT

#3306

Zweck, it looks pretty, but looks too open for Protoss? And I feel like there should really be a possible third expo on the low ground in front of the mains.

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

March 26 2015 02:46 GMT

#3307

OSGILIATH
160x160
4 player rotational

Thoughts?
Edit- center bases are 6 min, 2 gas

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

March 26 2015 06:37 GMT

#3308

Luunaaaaaaaaaa

[edit] Maybe the middle bases should be double-sided? ;D

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

March 26 2015 07:38 GMT

#3309

On March 26 2015 15:37 EatThePath wrote:
Luunaaaaaaaaaa

[edit] Maybe the middle bases should be double-sided? ;D

I just looked up that map and I can sort of see the resemblance, but it's mostly inspired by Fighting Spirit. Hopefully this map makes for a more interactive and aggressive play style.
I also have no idea what you mean by double-sided. Like minerals on both sides of the core structure?

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

March 27 2015 00:46 GMT

#3310

This is what I think for it, just some ideas. With rocks it makes the 3rd much safer when expanding CCW, more in line with the CW direction. Also maybe nudge the bridge closer to the CCW 3rd.

The doublesided thing is just kind of for fun, probably not a good addition. It kind of favors the CW spawn. If you made the CCW 3rd even easier, this could balance it out and add some interesting light asymmetry to the spawn directions. It does make the center area even more important to fight over though (since you can shoot that mineral line freely from middle).

Fatam

1986 Posts

March 27 2015 00:46 GMT

#3311

why are the middle bases 6 min 2 gas?

TheFish7

United States2824 Posts

March 27 2015 01:05 GMT

#3312

This map is like one part Luna, one part Fighting Spirit, add a dash of Entombed Valley. I also think you should continue cooking up that middle, but not quite sure how.

Actually maybe if you put the middle bases at 12/3/6/9 instead. Or maybe just at 3 and 9. In other words, add some more Luna to the recipe.

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

March 27 2015 01:07 GMT

#3313

@EatThePath

Thanks for the feedback! Was definitely thinking about making the CCW 3rd closer by ground, as well as rocks on the bridge, but never considered what you suggested(?) for the forward 3rd. I feel like it would be better as a no-gas base on the outside, with the 2 gas on the inside, but i have no idea

@fatam

Didn't want those bases to be the ideal 3rds, since they are very close (and maybe favor T/Z?).

Fatam

1986 Posts

March 27 2015 01:53 GMT

#3314

hmm yeah touche, Z would probably take that as a third most of the time.

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

March 27 2015 02:07 GMT

#3315

Changes-

CCW 3rd is closer
Center bases are normal bases
Rocks added

Double sided bases was kinda weird, idk. Will try to keep experimenting. Didn't think it would work out all-spawns but maybe it might.

IeZaeL

Italy991 Posts

March 28 2015 16:03 GMT

#3316

Forgot some mineral lines :p

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

March 28 2015 16:25 GMT

#3317

I feel like the expansion pattern isn't very smooth, but maybe it is intended? (what I mean is that if you take the normal third, your fourth is very far away ; and that if the two thirds are very close to each other which could be an issue in ZvT). I like it though.

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

March 28 2015 18:41 GMT

#3318

oooh lez that's pretty cool. imo it should be bigger though so the 3rd bases can be taken same direction with a little more stability (because that will sometimes be the 4th vs 3rd situation as well). also the ramp to the lowground near the main cliff should probably be wider / that area wider. very ff / mine friendly in a dangerous forward spot

@sweden: that's looking good, I bet it'd be fun in lotv (and probably okay in hots too)