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Weerwolf
Profile Joined November 2010
75 Posts
April 04 2014 08:50 GMT
#10681
I think what Vodage says is true. At least thats what I hear around me, and I also share the experience.

I'm never going to put in hour after hour in Starcraft anymore. I simply can't. Life obligations get in the way, housekeeping, work, etc. The whole crowd that experienced Starcraft and found it great most likely still exists, I'm one of them. However, we can't put all focus on a game anymore.
With that said, I love Starbow. However my current skill level is way too low to even compete a little. Only Die hards are on all the time in Eros right now, and everyone that isn't a die hard leaves after playing 2 to 10 games of losing.

It would be nice if Starbow grew. Starbow should grow, and a way to do it is not only attract the more casual players (it has already done this) but also keep them interested. So now the question is: What would be a good way to keep casual players interested?

We've already established that new casual players are put off by the skill gap, so we should enable casual players to play together, at least until a large player base is established and casuals will be on all the time.
A way to enable this (I'm not saying 'the best way', but it is a suggestion) would be to create some sort of period stamp on when a player will be there. A player can leave a 'stamp' in the chat or in a separate window next to that, with a time that he or she will be back. The stamp would contain simple information: Player name, rank and time of return. Of course it is no guarantee that a player will be back, but at least there is a way for casual and other players to meet up and get together, without waiting in Eros all the time. If this is succesful, enough players should exist at all time, eventually (and hopefully) make the functionality irrelevant.

That's my suggestion. Whether you do something with it or not, something should be done to actively keep casual players interested in the game.
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
April 04 2014 20:20 GMT
#10682
On April 04 2014 17:50 Weerwolf wrote:
I think what Vodage says is true. At least thats what I hear around me, and I also share the experience.

I'm never going to put in hour after hour in Starcraft anymore. I simply can't. Life obligations get in the way, housekeeping, work, etc. The whole crowd that experienced Starcraft and found it great most likely still exists, I'm one of them. However, we can't put all focus on a game anymore.
With that said, I love Starbow. However my current skill level is way too low to even compete a little. Only Die hards are on all the time in Eros right now, and everyone that isn't a die hard leaves after playing 2 to 10 games of losing.

It would be nice if Starbow grew. Starbow should grow, and a way to do it is not only attract the more casual players (it has already done this) but also keep them interested. So now the question is: What would be a good way to keep casual players interested?

We've already established that new casual players are put off by the skill gap, so we should enable casual players to play together, at least until a large player base is established and casuals will be on all the time.
A way to enable this (I'm not saying 'the best way', but it is a suggestion) would be to create some sort of period stamp on when a player will be there. A player can leave a 'stamp' in the chat or in a separate window next to that, with a time that he or she will be back. The stamp would contain simple information: Player name, rank and time of return. Of course it is no guarantee that a player will be back, but at least there is a way for casual and other players to meet up and get together, without waiting in Eros all the time. If this is succesful, enough players should exist at all time, eventually (and hopefully) make the functionality irrelevant.

That's my suggestion. Whether you do something with it or not, something should be done to actively keep casual players interested in the game.


I'm a casual player, you can play with me on NA server! However I'm not sure our schedules will coincide...
I've got a very busy life too.
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
weitao9292
Profile Joined December 2013
China25 Posts
April 13 2014 22:38 GMT
#10683
this mod and map are amazing, but can u guys upload those maps onto custom games?
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
April 13 2014 23:01 GMT
#10684
On April 14 2014 07:38 weitao9292 wrote:
this mod and map are amazing, but can u guys upload those maps onto custom games?


Why?
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 14 2014 08:24 GMT
#10685
On April 04 2014 17:50 Weerwolf wrote:
It would be nice if Starbow grew. Starbow should grow, and a way to do it is not only attract the more casual players (it has already done this) but also keep them interested. So now the question is: What would be a good way to keep casual players interested?

We've already established that new casual players are put off by the skill gap, so we should enable casual players to play together, at least until a large player base is established and casuals will be on all the time.
A way to enable this (I'm not saying 'the best way', but it is a suggestion) would be to create some sort of period stamp on when a player will be there. A player can leave a 'stamp' in the chat or in a separate window next to that, with a time that he or she will be back. The stamp would contain simple information: Player name, rank and time of return. Of course it is no guarantee that a player will be back, but at least there is a way for casual and other players to meet up and get together, without waiting in Eros all the time. If this is succesful, enough players should exist at all time, eventually (and hopefully) make the functionality irrelevant.

That's my suggestion. Whether you do something with it or not, something should be done to actively keep casual players interested in the game.

For the casuals:
Mini Challenges to get you interested. Like Missions or like in Starcraft Masters. They must be rewarding.
Later: Guides like Buildorder guides, leagues and well casted tournaments.
I would "invest" in the pricepool of such a tournament if that helps Starbow to get known a bit more. A small but wellknown tourney like the Teamliquid LR Tournament and later a bigger one. But: the game must feel balanced from the start
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
April 14 2014 12:05 GMT
#10686
If anyone would make mini-missions / tutorial maps for Starbow we would welcome that very much. The mod file (StarbowBeta) is unlocked and can be added to any map of your choosing. We can also send you loading screens and other graphics needed to make it look "official".
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
weitao9292
Profile Joined December 2013
China25 Posts
April 14 2014 12:35 GMT
#10687
On April 14 2014 07:38 weitao9292 wrote:
this mod and map are amazing, but can u guys upload those maps onto custom games?


Why?

those maps are awesome, i wanna try play some normal sc2 or sc2bw on those maps
weitao9292
Profile Joined December 2013
China25 Posts
April 14 2014 12:36 GMT
#10688
starbow did a way better job at maps than sc2bw, plz upload those maps onto custom games so we can play some normal sc2 game or sc2bw on those awesome BW maps.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
April 15 2014 15:31 GMT
#10689
Problem with uploading to custom maps is that each user can only upload 20 maps, and we are very close to our limit divided by at least two accounts.

But they are all public. Feel free to download them via the editor, remove the Starbow dependency and then upload them to custom maps yourself. Just remember to keep the "made by" in the description.
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
weitao9292
Profile Joined December 2013
China25 Posts
April 15 2014 17:59 GMT
#10690
thx for you advice, i tried to delete the dependency and upload them, but i can only upload them onto arcade, how can i upload them onto custom games?
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
April 15 2014 18:06 GMT
#10691
I think they need to be relabeled as "melee" maps. They are made as arcade maps. Not sure how you do that.

Worst case: Make new melee map with same bounds and copy + paste whole map.
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
weitao9292
Profile Joined December 2013
China25 Posts
April 15 2014 18:20 GMT
#10692
thank you very much, i have already uploaded the tau cross onto the custom games, thanks for sharing those great maps with us.
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
April 22 2014 00:55 GMT
#10693
Does StarBow have a group or IRC Channel? I am having issues trying to register an account (never receive the confirmation email); I'd really like to try it out, already played a few games and would like some challenges. If anyone wants to help out, it would be much appreciated. My skype is @legendarydreams. We could probably play a few games of SB as well.
call me moxie
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
April 22 2014 07:15 GMT
#10694
On April 22 2014 09:55 LegendaryDreams wrote:
Does StarBow have a group or IRC Channel? I am having issues trying to register an account (never receive the confirmation email); I'd really like to try it out, already played a few games and would like some challenges. If anyone wants to help out, it would be much appreciated. My skype is @legendarydreams. We could probably play a few games of SB as well.


This might help:

aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
April 22 2014 07:27 GMT
#10695
On April 16 2014 03:06 Xiphias wrote:
I think they need to be relabeled as "melee" maps. They are made as arcade maps. Not sure how you do that.

Worst case: Make new melee map with same bounds and copy + paste whole map.

If you do this make sure you copy+paste and realign the doodads separately, they aren't included in the standard terrain copy+paste.
vibeo gane,
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
April 22 2014 17:10 GMT
#10696
On April 22 2014 16:15 Xiphias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 09:55 LegendaryDreams wrote:
Does StarBow have a group or IRC Channel? I am having issues trying to register an account (never receive the confirmation email); I'd really like to try it out, already played a few games and would like some challenges. If anyone wants to help out, it would be much appreciated. My skype is @legendarydreams. We could probably play a few games of SB as well.


This might help:



Thank you, just wanted to note that you might have to wait from 30 min - 1 hour for the confirmation email once registering on the starbowmod website. After that it was smooth sailing.
call me moxie
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#10697
Just streaming some B rank toss gameplay. Come check it out

http://www.twitch.tv/da_head
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25071 Posts
May 03 2014 00:11 GMT
#10698
On April 27 2014 04:09 da_head wrote:
Just streaming some B rank toss gameplay. Come check it out

http://www.twitch.tv/da_head

Damnit man I was looking forward to checking that out, but it appears you don't have the VoDs saved from it apparently
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JohnnyZerg
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy378 Posts
May 15 2014 10:43 GMT
#10699
Unit test map "Starbow Tester 2.0" Updated!
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
May 15 2014 14:03 GMT
#10700
ah, great!
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
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