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BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
October 19 2008 22:40 GMT
#61
As much as I'd love to say it's a viable alternative (or even revolutionary) because of how much it would change ZvT (change is always interesting in SC), I honestly believe that its really just sort of a phase/maps thing.
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25995 Posts
October 20 2008 02:52 GMT
#62
Just a phase. It won't be viable once solved, but it certainly is now in certain situations.
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Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
October 20 2008 03:15 GMT
#63
Where have they been used, can anyone compile a list of recent games so we may look at the builds used and see!
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
October 20 2008 13:48 GMT
#64
I've voted in this poll three times now...have we always been able to do that?
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 20 2008 14:03 GMT
#65
wont last
My. Copy. Is. Here.
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
October 20 2008 19:02 GMT
#66
"omg boxer did it. it must be viable!"
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 21 2008 05:35 GMT
#67
Torn between phase and map fault. Although, I always like seeing underused units become not-so-underused...
this is my quote.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
October 21 2008 06:02 GMT
#68
On October 19 2008 00:24 Februarys wrote:
The best thing about Valkyries are not their ability to kill ovies/mutas but the way most Zerg players will react to it if Valkyrie number increases by so much that scourges start becoming ineffective. These Zergs who have trouble adapting will probably transition to mass hydra as a counter, which will then get countered by tanks

As a Zerg player, I feel like the most important way to bring down Valkyries is Scourges. Cheap, efficient, and can be snuck under while Mutas soak up the damage


but thats the problem, isnt it? if you have that key amount of 7-10 valks, you will have air superiority unless devourers come, because the missiles hit everything, even the scourge. Its not like sneaking in scourge in the muta group while attacking a battle cruiser.
The artist formerly known as Starparty
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
October 21 2008 08:08 GMT
#69
On October 21 2008 04:02 sqwert wrote:
"omg boxer did it. it must be viable!"


dropships?
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
October 21 2008 09:05 GMT
#70
Viable alternative

Back in the day when I used to play regulary and even more back in the day when I used to play more Terran I often built Valks and it usually worked out pretty well, Scourge can easily counter them though.
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
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