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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 18 2008 16:02 GMT
#21
On October 18 2008 21:28 wolfy4033 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 21:02 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's not revolutinary, if the Terrans start to use it often, the zergs will adopt very fast and crush it.


Isn't that exactly what happened with the Bisu build? And people said that was revolutionary..
Uh the bisu build is still used very often...its now [or some bastardization of it] your standard opening in pvz. It did revolutionize the game, and for the first time in years, gave protoss an extremely viable chance against Zerg on most maps.
Can you dig it?
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
October 18 2008 16:03 GMT
#22
Viable alternative on certain maps where air plays a bigger part/air harass is more viable.
I wouldn't say it's revolutionary, but it could spawn a trend of mech builds with valks involved.

I suppose I woulnd't mind all too much being wrong - I like when matchups change - although I must say I'm not too fond of Terran doing mech in all three matchups. The bionic builds have always been what's made TvZ so special.

All the blood, marines dying...
Pardon me, but it's bloody lovely.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Dark_Star
Profile Joined April 2008
Chile19 Posts
October 18 2008 16:14 GMT
#23
wow valkyries really are necesary against mutas,
i think rines can face mutas but they can follow them and continue fighting
a good numbers of valks and the scourge and mutas dies fastly
you know what im talking bout?
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 18 2008 16:44 GMT
#24
suddenly T1 fanboys! THOUSANDS OF THEM
dats racist
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
October 18 2008 16:47 GMT
#25
Whats next, scouts in PvT?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 18 2008 16:51 GMT
#26
On October 19 2008 01:47 Fontong wrote:
Whats next, scouts in PvT?


If Blizzard just lowered the cost they would be used
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 18 2008 17:56 GMT
#27
On October 19 2008 01:02 ScarFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2008 21:28 wolfy4033 wrote:
On October 18 2008 21:02 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's not revolutinary, if the Terrans start to use it often, the zergs will adopt very fast and crush it.


Isn't that exactly what happened with the Bisu build? And people said that was revolutionary..
Uh the bisu build is still used very often...its now [or some bastardization of it] your standard opening in pvz. It did revolutionize the game, and for the first time in years, gave protoss an extremely viable chance against Zerg on most maps.

But wasn't it Nal_rA not Bisu that invented sair reaver, which is the one used nowdays?
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
October 18 2008 18:13 GMT
#28
Remenber when boxer used lockdown against arbiters in a game against free[gm]. A lot of players started making ghost but, like after 1 month, nobody were using them. The same thing will probably happen to that valks build.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 18 2008 18:32 GMT
#29
On October 18 2008 20:11 DownMaxX wrote:
Viable Alternative.

But as a Zerg player, I'd like an "Annoying" option.

Corsairs, valkeries, ANNOYING AS FUCK TO THE ZERG PLAYERS T_T. Fucking flying supply...
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 18 2008 18:33 GMT
#30
I so badly want it t o be a revolution. Muta's are awful
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 18 2008 18:43 GMT
#31
On October 19 2008 03:13 Zepish wrote:
Remenber when boxer used lockdown against arbiters in a game against free[gm]. A lot of players started making ghost but, like after 1 month, nobody were using them. The same thing will probably happen to that valks build.


lol.. only the noobs started using ghosts, retard. everyone who was smart enough to see that the lockdown thing boxer did was just to make the game fun.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 18 2008 18:43 GMT
#32
On October 19 2008 02:56 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 01:02 ScarFace wrote:
On October 18 2008 21:28 wolfy4033 wrote:
On October 18 2008 21:02 Geo.Rion wrote:
it's not revolutinary, if the Terrans start to use it often, the zergs will adopt very fast and crush it.


Isn't that exactly what happened with the Bisu build? And people said that was revolutionary..
Uh the bisu build is still used very often...its now [or some bastardization of it] your standard opening in pvz. It did revolutionize the game, and for the first time in years, gave protoss an extremely viable chance against Zerg on most maps.

But wasn't it Nal_rA not Bisu that invented sair reaver, which is the one used nowdays?


tbh, Bisu build isnt involving reaver that much, dark templar is Bisus unit
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
October 18 2008 19:20 GMT
#33
Viable alternative on certain maps where air plays a bigger part/air harass is more viable.
I wouldn't say it's revolutionary, but it could spawn a trend of mech builds with valks involved.

I suppose I woulnd't mind all too much being wrong - I like when matchups change - although I must say I'm not too fond of Terran doing mech in all three matchups. The bionic builds have always been what's made TvZ so special.

All the blood, marines dying...
Pardon me, but it's bloody lovely.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 18 2008 19:32 GMT
#34
Phase.
Peace~
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 18 2008 19:59 GMT
#35
Valks in TVZ are old as hell. Nada started using them first I reckon. I mean real YOUNG Nada, aka when he was like 15 or so.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 18 2008 21:23 GMT
#36
I think it'll be just another build all terrans should add to their arsenal. It would have been interesting to see if Fantasy continues to use this build in the future.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8079 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 21:33:50
October 18 2008 21:33 GMT
#37
It'll be revolutionary and more than a gimmick build/just a phase/map specific build when it's proven against a S-Class Zerg. Right now I have trouble thinking its more viable than SK Terran overall... or that it would work against someone other than current level GGPlay
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 18 2008 21:38 GMT
#38
I would say it's a good blend between Map/Revolutionary/Viable Alternative. The map has a pretty strong influence on it being used. But the fact that we're seeing it a lot now, really shows the build's worth. I also think it's situational specific to a strong degree.
Graphics
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-18 21:58:15
October 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#39
mm i think it's viable for us... but in the pro scene it seems like some good micro could totally outdo the benefit of having Valkyries... it does almost cost as much as a BC and good micro on zerg's part, splitting, etc (something they r pretty experienced with due to sci vessel's irr) would totally own them ==

it seems kind of like the corsair for terrans but not really


on a lighter note... has any1 figured out the build pattern/order for this??
ggyo...
Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
October 18 2008 22:35 GMT
#40
their problem is their weakness against scourges, nothing more or less!
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