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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
March 14 2012 16:00 GMT
#101
Pity this poll was not done every month for the last 8 months, pretty sure toss would have got the least votes for at least 7 of them...checking the win rate graphs or results from the premier tournaments section reflects this...shame the poll was done straight after a tournament that toss wins in the month where toss come back into contention for strongest race
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
March 14 2012 16:02 GMT
#102
Protoss. Is it even a question? Not Zerg should be the only option imo :p
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
scrappycoco82
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
March 14 2012 16:10 GMT
#103
When watching pure statistics the game seems balanced at the moment. But it certainly doesn't feel like that all times.

I am playing random in mid diamond on eu. So in 99.9% of my loses its obvisously my fault that i lost.
But some matchups just feel not right sometimes. For me its TvP and ZvT where i can lose the game in a split second although i was way ahead.
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
March 14 2012 16:21 GMT
#104
This is a poll that involved a bet between Hot_Bid and someone, I'm sure of it.
Bubbas
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden76 Posts
March 14 2012 16:25 GMT
#105
Terran
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
March 14 2012 16:29 GMT
#106
Well I have the feeling toss is just easier to play untill you get to a higher level, like GM and stuff. Terran is OP (Marines) and that leaves us with Zerg, not underpowerd by any means but i guess the hardest to play
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
March 14 2012 16:31 GMT
#107
game feels pretty balanced, each has their just right amount of pros and cons, even though i feel like T's more power because my ZvT sucks.
what quote?
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
March 14 2012 16:42 GMT
#108
Zerg easily, at least at my diamond level of crappy play
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Vallros
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 16:46:27
March 14 2012 16:44 GMT
#109
why would they make this poll... makes for such dumb discussions

and why isn't there "balanced" option?
Calm like a bomb
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
March 14 2012 16:45 GMT
#110
Basically, what happened is that Protoss has been the weakest for the entirety of SC2, and they are finally about even with the other 2 races, so the people who are used to smashing Protoss players who aren't 1.5x-2x better than them are crying and bitching. Oh no, Protoss is finally able to win! What the hell is going on!
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
March 14 2012 17:02 GMT
#111
If used correctly, zerg is the strongest race i would say.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thingULTRA
Profile Joined January 2011
United States48 Posts
March 14 2012 17:12 GMT
#112
people saying that protoss is the strongest right now are just frustrated on the ladder, look at the real pro players and protoss is still underperforming overall, even though MC just recently had a great showing doesnt mean that protoss is suddenly the op race.
"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
March 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#113
Protoss is really tough to deal with not because they are fundamentally stronger (I actually don't think they are) but I've played a couple of games of late where a single mistake cost me the whole game. In one game, I was 6 bases to 3, and rather than making a massive blunder I reacted too slowly, causing a terrible engagement and was forced to tap out. It was a big mistake on my part but also a very quick mistake, and the game was effectively over even before I realized I had made a mistake.

I feel the same way when I play TvP (I offrace as both Terran and Protoss from time to time), but to a far lesser extent. I don't think any race is necessarily stronger than another (and I don't think it's reliably measurable) but I do think that with the current metagame, Protoss has a good deal of depth and empowers various play styles that require very different reactions from both Terran and Zerg. Once Terrans and Zergs get the hang of it though, Protoss will seem less powerful and become more predictable.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
mahO
Profile Joined April 2011
France274 Posts
March 14 2012 17:21 GMT
#114
On March 14 2012 12:27 MildSeven wrote:
Protoss is unbelievably strong at the moment, and they've only just started learning how to use their full arsenal effectively.



This... Weirdly enough Protoss seems to be unexplored, players limit themselves in few timings and compositions per match up, no multi speedprism late game (fast drop who can warp in enemy's base + doesnt cost any gas? are you kidding me? why this isnt used late game, ever? 2 speedprisms well controlled vs a 4 / 5 base opponent is crazy good).
And protoss are already starting to dominate the scene, when frankly, there is much fewer talented players at the highest level in protoss than terran or zerg... I'm sorry but MC has never, EVER been on the consistency level of an MVP, Nestea, DRG, even Leenock or Jjakji... You might be fan of the guy and his playstyle, but he just is behind those guys, we dont have a huge protoss champion emerging yet, and when it will, if patchs arent used well, lets say we're going to see a protoss MVP era...
I really dont get how lowering the upgrades costs made any sense, since it's already too effective on many toss units, I actually never seen a protoss go for really fast 3 3 with 2 perma chronoboosted forges, but the timing would be insanely early, i'm not saying it is valid, i'm saying it's broke that you can do that, cutting by ~40% (including off chronos) upgrades or really important units should be balanced by adding 20 seconds to upgrades, fast +1 are way too effective vsZ for example, it forces an uneffective trade whatever happens...
Oh and by the way, I played protoss for 6 months, I started as toss on SC2, it made me quit sc2 because I frankly had no fun playing the race, and was ashamed of seing an incredible multitask from my opponent, and still crushing him with frankly not that much skill. So yeah, you can think that i'm biased or whatever, but frankly I'm not, but sc2 is a really complex game, so none of us can really be sure of what the solutions, balance states are atm
Love and Justice
Profile Joined August 2011
United States87 Posts
March 14 2012 17:34 GMT
#115
I think the problem is why people think the Protoss is the strongest race is because of the 2-base all-in, hard to stop like the Protoss deathball of early last year. Nother Problem is terran can only go bio vs toss, even thou terran tier 1 units are so freakin good it's hard to play against to play against the Protoss late game with chargelot/archon/storm/collossus or w/e composition of units In the Toss's late game.
"No banglings, no problem." (ZeNEXLine)
Gorinn
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria21 Posts
March 14 2012 17:41 GMT
#116
where is the balanced game option -_-
Love and Justice
Profile Joined August 2011
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 17:44:43
March 14 2012 17:42 GMT
#117
But then again Protoss can be the weakest race too, they lack units that can be microed they tend to fall into gimmick strategies like the current 2 base all-in. It will be a matter of time when people figure out how to defend it/stop it.
"No banglings, no problem." (ZeNEXLine)
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
March 14 2012 18:00 GMT
#118
I voted Protoss because it's my race! This vote was totally biased, in reality I think that if anything, Terran is still the strongest race by a small margin.
o choro é livre
RunnerMeep
Profile Joined May 2011
United States79 Posts
March 14 2012 18:01 GMT
#119
Wtf, Protoss have only ever won ONE GSL ever and they lost again in the most recent one. They are consistently getting stomped at the higher levels.

MC wins IEM and people QQ....

Amazing
SJSU!
TheHansBecker
Profile Joined February 2011
United States117 Posts
March 14 2012 18:03 GMT
#120
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