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MMOwnageSports
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom300 Posts
March 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#361
Protoss in the lower leagues but in the hands of a pro player, Zerg rules.
MMOwnage - http://www.youtube.com/mm0wange - HD Gaming Network
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
March 17 2012 16:47 GMT
#362
TL seriously shouldn't do these kinda pools.
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
March 17 2012 16:52 GMT
#363
hmm, I feel like terran is the race suffering atm. they are at a heavy disadvantage in TvP, but i feel like TvZ is decently balanced. and i feel like PvZ is in a slight advantage for protoss, but not drastically. so P>Z>T
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
March 17 2012 16:54 GMT
#364
On March 18 2012 01:42 GamingLively wrote:
Protoss in the lower leagues but in the hands of a pro player, Zerg rules.

MC says hi.
<3 bw
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
March 17 2012 17:53 GMT
#365
At lower levels Protoss is strong.
But honestly who cares about lower levels, we wanted a competitive game that was balanced around the proscene, so we got one.
High level play seems quite balanced atm.
Thomassn
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands12 Posts
March 17 2012 18:20 GMT
#366
Terran, might be because I just lost to A SINGLE DROP of marines where I must have send at least 50 lings at a time at with superior upgrades he didn't micro at all... they just stood there shooting down everything kiling my pool and my lair I was confused how this even happend it's like he had immortality cheat from GTA or something.

Diamond League Scrub
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
March 17 2012 19:12 GMT
#367
protoss, obviously.
IMMvp #1 :)
crystyle
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland8 Posts
March 17 2012 20:31 GMT
#368
terrans imba, but strongest is zergs
Art never comes from happiness
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
March 17 2012 20:45 GMT
#369
Can't really tell.. Zerg gets my vote.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
March 17 2012 21:44 GMT
#370
On March 18 2012 03:20 Thomassn wrote:
Terran, might be because I just lost to A SINGLE DROP of marines where I must have send at least 50 lings at a time at with superior upgrades he didn't micro at all... they just stood there shooting down everything kiling my pool and my lair I was confused how this even happend it's like he had immortality cheat from GTA or something.



Yeah I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
March 17 2012 21:48 GMT
#371
I'll judge that when T starts using all of their units.
11 years and counting- TL #680
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 17 2012 21:59 GMT
#372
On March 18 2012 06:48 Monsen wrote:
I'll judge that when T starts using all of their units.

Whining on a new level: I want to call Terran OP but since it is getting kind of hard, I'll say they are hypothetically OP. Brilliant.
WGhyperion
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2 Posts
March 17 2012 22:38 GMT
#373
u guys... TERRAN IS OP MASS UPGRADED MARINES KILL EVERYTHING NERF MARINES but then again the things toss can make off 2 base is gay too zerg is ez lol
ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
March 17 2012 22:55 GMT
#374
FG + BL = OP
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
March 18 2012 00:08 GMT
#375
Terran, just too many safety mechanics.

Zergling running past your army?
No problem, just raise supply depot.

Forgot to make detection?
NP, just use scan.

Forgot to use macro mechanic energy?
NP, just throw down 10 mules at a time.

Invested in too much static defense?
NP, just use salvage.

Lost all your workers?
NP, just use mules.

Afraid of losing your expansions?
NP, just lift off or use PF.

Can't scout?
NP, just use scan.

Don't want to invest in drops?
NP, just use your medic.

Can't macro?
NP, all unit production can be queued.

Still can't macro?
NP, each production facility can make two units at a time.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
March 18 2012 00:40 GMT
#376
On March 18 2012 06:59 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 06:48 Monsen wrote:
I'll judge that when T starts using all of their units.

Whining on a new level: I want to call Terran OP but since it is getting kind of hard, I'll say they are hypothetically OP. Brilliant.


You're right on so many levels I just have to congratulate you.

1.) You're absolute spot on with "new level of whining". However, since I stopped playing SC2 ages ago (probably close to 1 year) whatever butthurt is around, might just have to be your own.

2.) My brilliance. I am indeed a smart motherfucker, but, my dear fan- so are you. And because I know you are, here's a little riddle for you.

*Spot the difference*

"If terrans used all their units, they would be overpowered."


"Once(when) terrans use all their units, I'll judge that (which race is the strongest)."


If you could spot the difference, here's your reward

+ Show Spoiler +
11 years and counting- TL #680
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
March 18 2012 02:42 GMT
#377
On March 14 2012 12:27 MildSeven wrote:
Protoss is unbelievably strong at the moment, and they've only just started learning how to use their full arsenal effectively.

the only unit that isn't used is the carrier. and before archon toilets the mothership. protoss have been using their full arsenal since the beginning.
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Covariance
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada59 Posts
March 18 2012 03:39 GMT
#378
On March 18 2012 09:08 Paladia wrote:
Terran, just too many safety mechanics.

Zergling running past your army?
No problem, just raise supply depot.

Forgot to make detection?
NP, just use scan.

Forgot to use macro mechanic energy?
NP, just throw down 10 mules at a time.

Invested in too much static defense?
NP, just use salvage.

Lost all your workers?
NP, just use mules.

Afraid of losing your expansions?
NP, just lift off or use PF.

Can't scout?
NP, just use scan.

Don't want to invest in drops?
NP, just use your medic.

Can't macro?
NP, all unit production can be queued.

Still can't macro?
NP, each production facility can make two units at a time.


Haha, well put!

A lot of forum content makes me weep for humanity (e.g., the number of people who don't realise that presenting numbers does not constitute inferential statistics) but this was very well put :D
What's the deal with airplane peanuts?
Putain_De_Putois
Profile Joined March 2011
France9 Posts
March 18 2012 05:02 GMT
#379
Funny how the percentage of votes for each race fits with the percentage of players of each.
An interesting thing would be to deduce something about balance from the gap between votes and players percentage.
Lets assume random is proportionnaly distributed between all races. We would have :
36% of protoss players / 40% of votes
34% of terran players / 31% of votes
30% of zerg players / 29% of votes
According to this, TvP needs a slight modification. And i dont mean balance modification, maybe just some meta game evolution, as the numbers are not shocking. Time will tell.
Tpyro
Profile Joined July 2010
France10 Posts
March 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#380

Zergling running past your army?
No problem, just raise supply depot.

Supply wall? Hello banelings.


Forgot to make detection?
NP, just use scan.

Or you just don't forget.


Forgot to use macro mechanic energy?
NP, just throw down 10 mules at a time.

Yes, and Chornos Boosts sure are a waste. So are creep tumours and transfuse...


Invested in too much static defense?
NP, just use salvage.

Bunkers, building that don't attack on there own unlike spore/spine/cannon?


Lost all your workers?
NP, just use mules.

Got me one that one.


Afraid of losing your expansions?
NP, just lift off or use PF.

Let's lift our expansion to find a burrowed ling/pylon in its place!


Can't scout?
NP, just use scan.

Inivisble obs and changeling are hard to use...


Don't want to invest in drops?
NP, just use your medic.

Let's not mention Nydus Worm and Warp-in / Recall


Can't macro?
NP, all unit production can be queued.

Let's stack more minerals!


Still can't macro?
[i]NP, each production facility can make two units at a time.

Zerg only has one production building that builds many of all units. Protoss can chrono boost production buildings, no matter the tech unit being built.

At least try and see the pros and cons...
Aren't we all just korean wanabe's?
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