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Which race is the strongest right now? - Page 17

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zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
March 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#321
strongest race is the one that does the worst on highest lvl, cute
mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 16:32:31
March 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#322
in my humble opinion, the game was never more balanced than it is right now. i feel that zerg is just a little behind 'cause it doesn't feel there are enough really really good players on a global level. they are amazing but there simply isn't enough of them. terran and protoss 'superplayer roster' is so much bigger they are pushing it more. especially protoss. they are really getting a hook on their HOLE arsenal. i can understand terrans for bitching (pardon my language) so much. it doesn't feel as easy anymore to win

zerg won gsl
terran won mlg
protoss won iem wc

:D
Fierytycoon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States85 Posts
March 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#323
the amount of misleading information here is disturbing

usually
protoss scouts zerg at 9
protoss scouts terran at 12
terran doesnt scout
zerg overlord scouts

obviously protoss is underpowered
Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
March 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#324
Z>P>T>Z
milan1101
Profile Joined March 2012
5 Posts
March 16 2012 16:34 GMT
#325
On March 14 2012 12:56 ForgeLife wrote:
protoss is SUPER weak in the early game. other than that they are the strongest, but honestly you can't really make a statement of which race is the strongest or not. it is almost perfectly balanced at this point.


You dont know anything about this game cause SC2 will never be balanced perfectly its imposible...
Toss is not weak in the early game cause you can make proxy pylon and spawn units and make a strong push....
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
March 16 2012 16:40 GMT
#326
Protoss best, Terran worst. Ez.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
straycat
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
230 Posts
March 16 2012 16:54 GMT
#327
I voted zerg.

I play zerg.


Yeaaaaah!
MistraL958
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Switzerland100 Posts
March 16 2012 17:15 GMT
#328
Terran won THIS tournament
Terran must be overpowered...

Most arguments are so dumb on this poll.

One should make a dataset with following splits (just an example)
-How many games Race X wins before 10 minutes mark
-How many games Race X wins after 20 minutes mark
-How many games Race X wins after reaching Tier3 units
-How many games Race X wins because of build order win
-How many games Race X wins if ... bla bla bla

One could also view all pro games withing a month and ask some progamer to answer some questions like:
-Does player playing Race X win while his opponent was having a clear advantage at some point?

Its just too time consuming but some analysis like that could make sense... Btw there are more Terran players today bcs Terran was the most dominant race at the beginning... Obviously there will be more Terrans then zergs but thats just bcs players do not switch races every 2 weeks... luckily...

Basically, I think with current understanding of the game, Protoss is the strongest...
Doc_Starcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 16 2012 17:22 GMT
#329
I think that it's such a hard distinction to make, and that it doesn't really depend on race. If you watch somebody like Stephano play against protoss, it looks like zerg is super IMBA, but then if you watch Idra play against toss, you think that toss is super IMBA. I think it has a lot to do with play style and the confidence of the two players against other races.
shoopin' da woopin'
rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
March 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#330
terran isnt strong
there is multitasking
micro
and macro if you are good at those then you can make terran strong but if you are just chobo you think that terran is really weak for me i pick toss
they are hard to beat T^T
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ MKP HWAITING ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
March 16 2012 19:14 GMT
#331
On March 17 2012 01:30 Dyme wrote:
Z>P>T>Z


It is like like this. Everything is unbalanced at the moment. I am a low master Terran and winning against toss is nearly impossible if they dont make any big mistakes.
vendettahow
Profile Joined March 2012
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 19:22:14
March 16 2012 19:18 GMT
#332
On March 17 2012 01:26 mRpolite wrote:
in my humble opinion, the game was never more balanced than it is right now. i feel that zerg is just a little behind 'cause it doesn't feel there are enough really really good players on a global level. they are amazing but there simply isn't enough of them. terran and protoss 'superplayer roster' is so much bigger they are pushing it more. especially protoss. they are really getting a hook on their HOLE arsenal. i can understand terrans for bitching (pardon my language) so much. it doesn't feel as easy anymore to win

zerg won gsl
terran won mlg
protoss won iem wc

:D


I agree very much with this post. I don't believe zerg is at all underpowered, particularly after the ghost nerf, but I DO agree that there are essentially like two super players right now for Z, which are DRG and Stephano. Most other zergs are streaky in the current meta, and in my opinion the zerg race must know the meta more than any other.

Protoss have always been as strong as they are right now, but they opted to go for timing attacks and all-ins up until now, with their champions being players like MC. It seems Korean Protoss are just now realizing they can win by doing nothing but defending and reaching 200/200.

Terran must outplay their opponent to win from mid to late game period. Unfortunately, that has always felt like what Terran must do, but terran players have had the advantage of having dozens of top-tier pros to look to for builds, variety, and timings. Also, Terran is the most versatile race in early to mid-game, being able to win with nearly any unit composition if controlled correctly. However, from midgame on this is no longer the case b/c of the way Terran upgrades work. The only example of terran turtling to 200/200 and still winning was MvP's mass ghost play, which is no longer an option. The race that was created to turtle in BW and expected to turtle in SC2 can do nothing of the sort.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 16 2012 19:29 GMT
#333
...neither?
ClapYoHandz
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
March 16 2012 19:40 GMT
#334
Forcefields.
You secure that shit Hudson.
AldjinnEU
Profile Joined September 2011
France27 Posts
March 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#335
On March 14 2012 12:43 jordan dallas padget wrote:
storm good
T.T

Storms don't kill people. Templars kill people.
SharkZ
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria8 Posts
March 16 2012 20:41 GMT
#336
P 40% T 31% Z 30% , lol at 101 % :D haha
i sam voinut e ... sam!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#337
People think Protoss is the strongest right now??? Really?? Maybe a couple months ago after the EMP nerf, but certainly not right now. Zerg is definitely the strongest right now. The DRG/Stephano style of mass Roach is so strong and with the snipe nerf late game ZvT is way stronger. Terran has always been strong, but Zerg is on another level right now. Protoss is either the weakest, or even with Terran right now, no way toss is the strongest.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
veGGen
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway62 Posts
March 16 2012 20:52 GMT
#338
I feel like everyone just define balance with the end game engagement 200 vs 200. different races have different strenghts and weaknesses.. get over it... + DRG never lose ZvP, i quote Stephano: "I'm one of the only ones saying, like, the Zerg is way ahead against the Protoss. Protoss have like no really strategy choice against Zerg they have always to do the same thing to be safe, where the Zerg can change strategy and still win and be safe same time. I feel like Blizzard need to patch something for Protoss to give them more option in the metagame because the Zerg has only to do one build to counter kind of all the possible builds for the Protoss and it's really stupid I feel."

If you think DRG and stephano are bad players and should stfu, please keep it to yourself cause you are making a fool of yourself.

‎"He kill them with they love. That's how it is every day. All over the worl'."
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 16 2012 21:15 GMT
#339
Protoss, since 2010.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Felwarrior
Profile Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
March 16 2012 21:15 GMT
#340
On March 14 2012 12:56 ForgeLife wrote:
protoss is SUPER weak in the early game. other than that they are the strongest, but honestly you can't really make a statement of which race is the strongest or not. it is almost perfectly balanced at this point.



lol i guess you've never seen what early stalkers can do...
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