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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 13 2009 12:11 GMT
#221
Ya, I can't find a word that sufficiently describes how epic Flash vs JD is gonna be. Looking forward to it so much.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 13 2009 16:14 GMT
#222
Haha, poor Flash, has to play Zero in MSL Ro16 and Jaedong in OSL ro8 the next day.

Jaedong gets Firefist then Flash, though, which is also kind of tough.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 13 2009 16:31 GMT
#223
On December 14 2009 01:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, poor Flash, has to play Zero in MSL Ro16 and Jaedong in OSL ro8 the next day.

Jaedong gets Firefist then Flash, though, which is also kind of tough.


wow, Jaedong has the chance to eliminate 2/3 of KT while KT has the chance to eliminate JD lol
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
December 13 2009 16:36 GMT
#224
Man, JD got proleague on Wednesday, first set against Firefist on Thursday and then his first set against Flash on Friday. Then he has the remainder of his games against Firefist and Flash in the span of like 5 hours, he really got schedule screwed big time. Flash has it pretty bad too though, both these guys are so overworked...
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
December 13 2009 16:50 GMT
#225
On December 14 2009 01:31 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 01:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, poor Flash, has to play Zero in MSL Ro16 and Jaedong in OSL ro8 the next day.

Jaedong gets Firefist then Flash, though, which is also kind of tough.


wow, Jaedong has the chance to eliminate 2/3 of KT while KT has the chance to eliminate JD lol

On the bright side (for Flash) they are both Zerg, and Flash is practicing vs. Zerg for PL so he will be only be playing one match up.

On the other hand game 1 vs Jaedong is going to be his 3rd vZ this week meaning he will need to give Jaedong a lot of information to study for their match.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 13 2009 17:05 GMT
#226
Jaedong vs Flash should've been a Bo5 final, and they should both have had a week free to practise for it. I just came a little just by imagining it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 18:31:59
December 13 2009 18:25 GMT
#227
On December 14 2009 02:05 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong vs Flash should've been a Bo5 final, and they should both have had a week free to practise for it. I just came a little just by imagining it.


Yup, would have easily been the most epic match since Nada vs Savior at Shinhan 3 (as far as hype goes at least). There is still a decent possibility that it will happen in the MSL though, with JD and Flash both looking near invincible lately and the Ro8 bracket being sorted after KeSPA ranking
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 13 2009 18:36 GMT
#228
On December 14 2009 03:25 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 02:05 Holgerius wrote:
Jaedong vs Flash should've been a Bo5 final, and they should both have had a week free to practise for it. I just came a little just by imagining it.


Yup, would have easily been the most epic match since Nada vs Savior at Shinhan 3 (as far as hype goes at least). There is still a decent possibility that it will happen in the MSL though, with JD and Flash both looking near invincible lately and the Ro8 bracket being sorted after KeSPA ranking


Unfortunately JD said he wants to focus on MSL and I'd guess Flash would take OSL more important.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 13 2009 19:03 GMT
#229
On the other hand, one match up is vs Firefist and one is vs Flash. I'm pretty sure we all know which match up he's taking more seriously.
Remember Violet.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
December 13 2009 19:23 GMT
#230
JD has stated he's more focused on the MSL because he already has a Golden Mouse
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 13 2009 20:05 GMT
#231
Yes, JD wants a Gold Badge, his collection is still incomplete, — but he didn’t say what he don’t want a Platinum Mouse.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 13 2009 20:33 GMT
#232
On December 14 2009 05:05 nonduc wrote:
Yes, JD wants a Gold Badge, his collection is still incomplete, — but he didn’t say what he don’t want a Platinum Mouse.

Nada is still the G.O.A.T., but Jaedong is hot on his heels. If anyone can win a Platinum Mouse it's Jaedong. But he needs some MSLs too.
May the BeSt man win.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 13 2009 21:37 GMT
#233
On December 14 2009 05:33 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 05:05 nonduc wrote:
Yes, JD wants a Gold Badge, his collection is still incomplete, — but he didn’t say what he don’t want a Platinum Mouse.

Nada is still the G.O.A.T., but Jaedong is hot on his heels. If anyone can win a Platinum Mouse it's Jaedong. But he needs some MSLs too.


Players are much better now than when Nada was in his prime. JD vs prime Nada would be a complete rape.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 13 2009 21:41 GMT
#234
That's not the point. GREATEST doesn't mean best in gameplay itself. Nada's just got 2 titles on Jaedong.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 13 2009 21:45 GMT
#235
It's a matter of definition I guess. Nada is unarguably the most accomplished player of all time with his 6 individual titles, but Flash and Jaedong are much, much better at playing SC. I personally hold JD as G.O.A.T with Flash being a potential future candidate.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 22:08:48
December 13 2009 22:07 GMT
#236
On December 14 2009 06:37 Orbifold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2009 05:33 Djabanete wrote:
On December 14 2009 05:05 nonduc wrote:
Yes, JD wants a Gold Badge, his collection is still incomplete, — but he didn’t say what he don’t want a Platinum Mouse.

Nada is still the G.O.A.T., but Jaedong is hot on his heels. If anyone can win a Platinum Mouse it's Jaedong. But he needs some MSLs too.


Players are much better now than when Nada was in his prime. JD vs prime Nada would be a complete rape.


I meant in terms of trophy count rather than skill, obviously.
Edit: Also this is a discussion that should stay well out of the PR thread. I was just expressing admiration for Jaedong, not trying to start one of these pointless old vs new discussions.
May the BeSt man win.
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 14 2009 00:02 GMT
#237
Yes, I agree with Djabanete — JD has a goal to overcome NaDa in medals score, because by now NaDa is No.1 in titles and now JD tied with NaDa only in the Starleague golds, not in MSL ones.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 14 2009 00:37 GMT
#238
JD... Screw the MSL, get your platinum mouse son.Please don't focus on it. It would be a much greater feat if you got the very first platinum mouse instead of just another golden badge.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 14 2009 02:38 GMT
#239
On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this)


Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo.


When PL was a side-show to "justify" teams and give greater exposure, this would have made sense. When PL is day in and day out, five days a week, two matches a week most of the time, the argument starts to be a little shakier.

Think about the OSL. We're down to a round of 8: look who's in it. I'd expect Sea to be able to beat Movie, Shine, and Pure at the moment, and maybe even Calm. And he already beat Stork. I don't know about a hypothetical best-of-five for these matches (although I still think Sea would win, I can't pass expert judgement or anything), but at some point a supposed "accomplishment" of a Starleague player just isn't enough to justify calling him a better player than a PL-only player who's playing better SC.

Case in point: I'm looking at you, type-b, and the August power rank. EffOrt is in the top 5. He crashed and burned and died in the Starleagues' mid-rounds (just like this time around), but his PL performance was absolutely stellar. Of course, I'm sure the fact that it was playoffs-time helped the case, but still. type-b sacrificed some PL games to make the Round of 8 in the OSL, and then took out Leta... for 10th place on the PR.

I also don't buy the scheduling argument. Sure Flash (or whoever) has to prepare for three (or five) games in addition to Proleague duties. But it's not an every-day thing. It's not an every week thing. The sheer grind of Proleague offsets, to me, the intensity of a SL match. Look at everybody's current favorite whipping boy, fantasy. With time to prepare, he goes toe-to-toe with Jaedong. With the grind, he loses big games to BAD Zergs. (In contrast, Flash deals with the grind much better but when he's not in Ultimate Weapon mode he cracks under SL pressure. The only "complete" player playing right now is Jaedong, and even he broke in the PL finals.)
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Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 14 2009 02:56 GMT
#240
GOAT is not determined by medal count... the GOAT is the person who has attained the very highest peak ability in star craft ever. Jaedong would smoke Nada in his prime... it wouldn't even be close.
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