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RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 15 2009 04:05 GMT
#261
--- Nuked ---
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 15 2009 04:19 GMT
#262
On December 15 2009 09:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2009 08:39 Warrior Madness wrote:
Anyone else notice how not too long ago the question everyone was asking was is it JD or Bisu that is the GOAT/bonjwa? And a while before that a similar question was posed, "Is it JD or Flash?" and now... again that same question is being asked. I have a feeling that whoever is the "best" at the moment, he will most likely be compared with JD to see who's the best. That said, I think flash will beat JD, and that Bisu will be back sooner or later.


The common factor here is Jaedong, btw. It's almost always "Who's Jaedong's closest competition?" Jaedong is the bar that no one else has really passed, yet, and while the skill differential isn't as massive between Jaedong and his peers as it is between the past Bonjwas and their peers, Jaedong's taken that small differential and dominated the scene as hard or harder than the bonjwas.

If someone doesn't thoroughly and uncompromisingly dethrone him as truly his better/rival (Since Flash and Bisu and Stork only beat him in sparse displays and end up failing the overall scene that Jaedong dominates) then he'll probably go down as the last greatest player once BW fades off/gets replaced.


This is totally true, good thing Flash is going to smash him on Friday.

+ Show Spoiler +
I shit talk for fun... I love JD and am mostly just happy to watch such a great game.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 15 2009 10:03 GMT
#263
On December 15 2009 07:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
He's not playing "Great" in proleague. Beating Turn is fine and all but he's dropped games to Haksoo and Stork.

Both leagues down, mediocre performance in PL -- Bisu is looking like a slumper more and more.

I don`t know man, hes still 9-3 in PL, hardly what I would call mediocre especially considering his losses. Yeah hes loss vs Lux was bad, but his loss vs haksoo was a straight up BO loss (haksoo cut so many corners that game it was crazy, and Bisu played a pretty safe build that would leave him pretty secure vs anything but the type of build haksoo used, the equivalent of a 12h vs 9p) and while he did get soundly outplayed by Stork, Stork is his biggest rival and playing some of his finest StarCraft ever these days so no shame losing to him.

I know it sounds kind of lame with excuses like this, but really beside his bad play vs Shine and losing the shuttle like a retard vs Guemchi (in a game he a firm grip on until that) there ain`t much suggesting that his skills are deteriorating severely, on the bright side he dug himself out of some big holes vs Turn and CrazyHydra. Yeah hes not playing his best BW these days and are making some sloppy mistakes here and there, with the occasional BO loss also, but far from slumping or having worse mechanics or anything like that which would lower his skills. That`s not to say he shouldn't get a serious drop in the PR tho, because he should but I expect him to start raping shit again soon
God Hates a Coward
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 15 2009 13:25 GMT
#264
Zero was such in a good position to get into top3, but now he starts losing again.

Streaky zerg indeed.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 15 2009 15:34 GMT
#265
On December 15 2009 22:25 SuperArc wrote:
Zero was such in a good position to get into top3, but now he starts losing again.

Streaky zerg indeed.


He is still in a position for top 3 .
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
December 15 2009 15:52 GMT
#266
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 15 2009 16:36 GMT
#267
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 15 2009 16:49 GMT
#268
On December 16 2009 01:36 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.

see? stork's PvZ is beautiful, yet its his worst MU.
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 15 2009 18:34 GMT
#269
On December 16 2009 01:49 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 01:36 Musoeun wrote:
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.

see? stork's PvZ is beautiful, yet its his worst MU.


Zero's ZvZ is beautiful and it's his worst MU .
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 15 2009 18:47 GMT
#270
On December 16 2009 01:49 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 01:36 Musoeun wrote:
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.

see? stork's PvZ is beautiful, yet its his worst MU.

how is masszela beautiful? No, i dont think Stork's PvZ is beautiful, he usually just masses a tone of unit or/and expands a lot. Back in the day of andromeda he did cute corsair reaver into carrier stuff, nowadays i like him more than i used to previously, but not because his PvZ looks pretty.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 15 2009 19:24 GMT
#271
On December 16 2009 03:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 01:49 Jaeden wrote:
On December 16 2009 01:36 Musoeun wrote:
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.

see? stork's PvZ is beautiful, yet its his worst MU.

how is masszela beautiful? No, i dont think Stork's PvZ is beautiful, he usually just masses a tone of unit or/and expands a lot. Back in the day of andromeda he did cute corsair reaver into carrier stuff, nowadays i like him more than i used to previously, but not because his PvZ looks pretty.

well, it's efficient
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 16 2009 13:01 GMT
#272
On December 16 2009 04:24 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 03:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 16 2009 01:49 Jaeden wrote:
On December 16 2009 01:36 Musoeun wrote:
On December 16 2009 00:52 Scorch wrote:
Is he? How is he any better than Flash, Jaedong or Stork?


You could make an argument that he's better than Stork based on the still-in-both-leagues thing. That would make him #3 pretty much. And he might beat Stork head-to-head, too, although Stork's PvZ is beautiful atm.

see? stork's PvZ is beautiful, yet its his worst MU.

how is masszela beautiful? No, i dont think Stork's PvZ is beautiful, he usually just masses a tone of unit or/and expands a lot. Back in the day of andromeda he did cute corsair reaver into carrier stuff, nowadays i like him more than i used to previously, but not because his PvZ looks pretty.

well, it's efficient


Hes the new mantoss so he obviously needs to pwn face with manlots too.
Revolutionist fan
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 16 2009 13:24 GMT
#273
If CJ continues its run I say Skyhigh/Movie/Effort for PR!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 16 2009 18:48 GMT
#274
On December 16 2009 22:24 SuperArc wrote:
If CJ continues its run I say Skyhigh/Movie/Effort for PR!


Well effort is a given , even thought he loses a lot of ZvZ this days . Movie should probably make PR or CBNC at worse . Skyhigh has a long way to go ... unless winnersleague is coming and he rapes in it .
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 16 2009 21:24 GMT
#275
On December 17 2009 03:48 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 22:24 SuperArc wrote:
If CJ continues its run I say Skyhigh/Movie/Effort for PR!


Well effort is a given , even thought he loses a lot of ZvZ this days . Movie should probably make PR or CBNC at worse . Skyhigh has a long way to go ... unless winnersleague is coming and he rapes in it .


true Skyhigh has only a chance if he continues his winning streak AND beats Sea
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 16 2009 22:28 GMT
#276
Looking forward to you having to drop Bisu way down. Out of both leagues before Ro16 -> GG. Then again, I guess I should expect him at 3. - 4. spot with a "Bisu's Bisu and Bisu is gud" ^_^

JD vs Flash Bo3 will most likely determine the #1 and #2 spots.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 00:37:08
December 17 2009 00:35 GMT
#277
right now i'd say something like

1. Flash
2. Jaedong
3. Stork
4. Zero
5. Calm
6. Shine
7. Effort
8. Movie
9. Sea
10. Bisu
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 17 2009 02:39 GMT
#278
Wow, with the success Flash has had, if he continues his TvZ success, he could be #1 for a few months to come. He is quite the monster. Seriously, he has had ridiculous streaks in 2 of his matchups.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
December 17 2009 04:30 GMT
#279
It depends on how well he performs in the late stages of group play moreso than how long his streak lasts.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 17 2009 04:32 GMT
#280
To be fair, if his streak lasted an entire season, then those two kind of coincide!

Shame there's almost no terrans in the MSL and none in the OSL. This is honestly looking like the hardest shot Flash has at a title because he has almost no way of playing his cinch match up.
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