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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 17 2009 04:56 GMT
#281
On December 17 2009 13:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
To be fair, if his streak lasted an entire season, then those two kind of coincide!

Shame there's almost no terrans in the MSL and none in the OSL. This is honestly looking like the hardest shot Flash has at a title because he has almost no way of playing his cinch match up.

MSL is split as perfectly as it can get in regards to racial diversity so you can't really say one race is lacking or hardly any of one race exists.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 17 2009 05:06 GMT
#282
Maybe Flash is so good that all the other Terrans in the MSL are as if invisible?
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 17 2009 05:56 GMT
#283
On December 17 2009 13:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
To be fair, if his streak lasted an entire season, then those two kind of coincide!

Shame there's almost no terrans in the MSL and none in the OSL. This is honestly looking like the hardest shot Flash has at a title because he has almost no way of playing his cinch match up.

It's okay, there are plenty of zergs, lol.
GANDHISAUCE
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 17 2009 09:26 GMT
#284
who ever wins flash vs jaedong gets number one next month i bet
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 17 2009 12:25 GMT
#285
On December 17 2009 18:26 StorrZerg wrote:
who ever wins flash vs jaedong gets number one next month i bet


of course JD is 9-0 this month so far, Flash 8-2. But Flash's play is still so strong that their Bo3 must decide between #1 and #2.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 17 2009 13:31 GMT
#286
If there was a reverse Power Rank Fantasy would be No1. 0-5 (one of the losses were to Killer XD) in December, out of both leagues, not even on SKT's Proleague Lineup... good times for Fantasy anti-fans! :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
December 17 2009 14:49 GMT
#287
jaedong is 16-2 in this last month and a half
and flash is 24-3 in his last 2 month (flash had more games since he had to qualify )
flash lost to stork and best / hyun
jaedong lost to savior and saint
i'd say tomarrow games will be amz 2 of the best players while they are hot will play a bo3
oh man this will be so much fun
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 17 2009 15:29 GMT
#288
On December 17 2009 14:06 EvoChamber wrote:
Maybe Flash is so good that all the other Terrans in the MSL are as if invisible?

I bet it wasn't so hard to do with Light...
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 15:32:42
December 17 2009 15:31 GMT
#289
On December 17 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 13:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
To be fair, if his streak lasted an entire season, then those two kind of coincide!

Shame there's almost no terrans in the MSL and none in the OSL. This is honestly looking like the hardest shot Flash has at a title because he has almost no way of playing his cinch match up.

MSL is split as perfectly as it can get in regards to racial diversity so you can't really say one race is lacking or hardly any of one race exists.


Insomuch as Canata and Bogus, two guys who'd be lucky to make it past Ro16, much less Ro8, are equally distributed. Basically, Flash has no chance of playing TvT in OSL and little chance of playing TvT in MSL because the terrans in MSL are kind of bad and will most likely get knocked out beforehand.

Light and Hwasin MIGHT make it far enough, but I doubt it since Hwasin's playing his bad match up and when was the last time Light broke Ro8 ?
Remember Violet.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 17 2009 15:46 GMT
#290
On December 18 2009 00:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
On December 17 2009 13:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
To be fair, if his streak lasted an entire season, then those two kind of coincide!

Shame there's almost no terrans in the MSL and none in the OSL. This is honestly looking like the hardest shot Flash has at a title because he has almost no way of playing his cinch match up.

MSL is split as perfectly as it can get in regards to racial diversity so you can't really say one race is lacking or hardly any of one race exists.


Insomuch as Canata and Bogus, two guys who'd be lucky to make it past Ro16, much less Ro8, are equally distributed. Basically, Flash has no chance of playing TvT in OSL and little chance of playing TvT in MSL because the terrans in MSL are kind of bad and will most likely get knocked out beforehand.

Light and Hwasin MIGHT make it far enough, but I doubt it since Hwasin's playing his bad match up and when was the last time Light broke Ro8 ?


as a member of my anti-team fantasy is earning me more points than half of my team members
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 17 2009 18:05 GMT
#291
Good thing he's not in either league...?
Remember Violet.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 17 2009 18:10 GMT
#292
--- Nuked ---
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 17 2009 18:10 GMT
#293
meant to quote holgerius my bad
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 17 2009 21:08 GMT
#294
isn't it funny how when each of the "greats" went on a ridiculous tear in the PL/SL's their marquee matchup was their mirror MU?

BeST's best MU during his Incruit run was his PvP
Jaedong's best MU (well. JvZ) was his ZvZ
Bisu had some crazy 70% win rate PvP

and now Flash as he takes on both SL's is a TvT MONSTER
interesting
cw)minsean(ru
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2009 00:22 GMT
#295
On December 18 2009 06:08 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
isn't it funny how when each of the "greats" went on a ridiculous tear in the PL/SL's their marquee matchup was their mirror MU?

BeST's best MU during his Incruit run was his PvP
Jaedong's best MU (well. JvZ) was his ZvZ
Bisu had some crazy 70% win rate PvP

and now Flash as he takes on both SL's is a TvT MONSTER
interesting


That's actually pretty good observation. All of them dominated (or still dominate) their mirror match-up.

But Flash going 19-0 in official games with the last loss to Hyia in May is insane.

If we count gom this would be 22-1...
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 18 2009 01:03 GMT
#296
On December 18 2009 09:22 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 06:08 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
isn't it funny how when each of the "greats" went on a ridiculous tear in the PL/SL's their marquee matchup was their mirror MU?

BeST's best MU during his Incruit run was his PvP
Jaedong's best MU (well. JvZ) was his ZvZ
Bisu had some crazy 70% win rate PvP

and now Flash as he takes on both SL's is a TvT MONSTER
interesting


That's actually pretty good observation. All of them dominated (or still dominate) their mirror match-up.

But Flash going 19-0 in official games with the last loss to Hyia in May is insane.

If we count gom this would be 22-1...

2009 Ultimate Proleague Championship was KeSPA sanctioned, i.e. official. It was in September.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 02:01:07
December 18 2009 02:00 GMT
#297
No it was not sanctioned for creditable wins and losses. Otherwise KESPA wouldn't be saying Flash had a 19 win streak, considering his loss to Sea in that tournament.

It's in the same boat as STX masters and the map tests -- showmatches, nothing more.
Remember Violet.
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 18 2009 03:49 GMT
#298
On December 18 2009 11:00 TwoToneTerran wrote:
No it was not sanctioned for creditable wins and losses. Otherwise KESPA wouldn't be saying Flash had a 19 win streak, considering his loss to Sea in that tournament.

It's in the same boat as STX masters and the map tests -- showmatches, nothing more.

KeSPA isn’t saying anything about Flash’s streaks — the newsmakers are saying. :D

Flash has this "19" win streak only in selected, not in sanctioned games. For this streak count PL, Starleague, and MSL were just selected — for the good hot news.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 18 2009 03:54 GMT
#299
On December 18 2009 12:49 nonduc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 11:00 TwoToneTerran wrote:
No it was not sanctioned for creditable wins and losses. Otherwise KESPA wouldn't be saying Flash had a 19 win streak, considering his loss to Sea in that tournament.

It's in the same boat as STX masters and the map tests -- showmatches, nothing more.

KeSPA isn’t saying anything about Flash’s streaks — the newsmakers are saying. :D

Flash has this "19" win streak only in selected, not in sanctioned games. For this streak count PL, Starleague, and MSL were just selected — for the good hot news.


You're completely uninformed. There is past precedent for what counts and what does not count towards streak records.

If they were cherry-picking the 'good news', by the way, Flash would have had a 19 game TvZ streak. He does in TLPD, go check.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 18 2009 04:19 GMT
#300
Hinanawi, please, tell me where I can find sources to be as "informed" as you are. :D
May be these sources are your dreams, aren’t they?
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
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