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On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this)
Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo.
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On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this) Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo.
Your argument basically consists of "yes, sea is definately one of the top players... but he isnt in OSL/MSL"
Maybe you can come up with 5 people to put above sea, but who? Calm? yeah calm is in OSL (but only because effort beat fantasy) - but Calm has been playing terribly lately. Sea should definitely be above him. IMHO, Flash/Jaedong/Stork/Zero should probably be top 4 in some order, with Flash taking #1. At #5, I would put Sea - nobody else looks nearly as impressive.
Look at it this way: make a list of people who could play a really good game against Flash right now. This list is very short, and contains only Stork, Best, and probably Jaedong/Zero/Sea
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Isn't it a little early to be talking about next months rank. There are more games to be played than currently have been played in December. I mean this time last month Flash was 1-1 a lot can change with nearly 3 weeks left in a month.
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On December 12 2009 02:43 TarsTarkas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this) Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo. Look at it this way: make a list of people who could play a really good game against Flash right now. This list is very short, and contains only Stork, Best, and probably Jaedong/Zero/Sea
Daezang.
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On December 12 2009 02:59 cokencheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 02:43 TarsTarkas wrote:On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this) Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo. Look at it this way: make a list of people who could play a really good game against Flash right now. This list is very short, and contains only Stork, Best, and probably Jaedong/Zero/Sea Daezang.
wait.. what??
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On December 12 2009 03:05 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 02:59 cokencheese wrote:On December 12 2009 02:43 TarsTarkas wrote:On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this) Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo. Look at it this way: make a list of people who could play a really good game against Flash right now. This list is very short, and contains only Stork, Best, and probably Jaedong/Zero/Sea Daezang. wait.. what??
flash played like crap against daezang, thats why I guess he mentioned him.
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On December 12 2009 02:59 cokencheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 02:43 TarsTarkas wrote:On December 12 2009 02:33 SuperArc wrote:On December 12 2009 01:42 ThePhan2m wrote:
Top 5 for Calm? comon, he has been playing horribly
Sea definitly deserves a higher spot now. (I never thought I actually would've said this) Sea is only playing in PL which means he can put all his practice in 1-2 games a week. As a player of his skill I'd expect him to perform at JD/Flash's level. A PL only player should never deserve to get into the top5 imo. Look at it this way: make a list of people who could play a really good game against Flash right now. This list is very short, and contains only Stork, Best, and probably Jaedong/Zero/Sea Daezang.
I have the game open in another tab right now, and I can say you are completely wrong with this one. The trouble Flash had after his mini-nukes went off was because he wasn't expecting to due that well. If his drop had been less successful, he still would have had a solid lead, since that big desperation attack wouldn't have happened. His 4th CC would have finished and with Daezang's 4th delayed as much as it was Flash would have been able to push out and crush him.
edit: I think Flash might have anticipated losing the upper left, since he (tried) expanded to the middle left as the arbiters came through twice.
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I'm just sad that Zero's career record is so bad from his early days. Those 80 losses really make him look worse than he is.
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No matter how the rest of the month goes, I think Bisu/Fantasy/Effort should be out. Especially the first two. Doesn't matter how they do the rest of the month...losses to the likes of Haksoo and Killer are unacceptable
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On December 12 2009 06:00 ndralcasid wrote:
No matter how the rest of the month goes, I think Bisu/Fantasy/Effort should be out. Especially the first two. Doesn't matter how they do the rest of the month...losses to the likes of Haksoo and Killer are unacceptable
I agree with Bisu/fantasy, Effort could save himself a #10 spot since he is still owning in PL as CJ's ace.
On December 12 2009 04:30 samachking wrote:Btw anyone checked up Zero's TLPD page recently? It looks pretty colorful to me http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/174_ZerOand I continue to sigh when he receives no hype when half assed Zergs from popular teams ride all of it
Oh he did have his hype then he got 3-0ed by Luxury. But wait we gave him another chance, even putting him above JD in PR! How did he repay us? Losing against Kwanro! :D
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Well Calm was third last month and he is 7th now even with his horrible month, the reason being that going from 3rd to no top10 at all is way too much drop.
"While a bad record this month does make him drop towards the bottom of the rank, it's difficult to think of many players who can beat him in a bo5 at the moment. Calm had a terrible month, but a terrible month alone is not going to push a former #3 completely off the chart."
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On December 12 2009 04:30 samachking wrote:Btw anyone checked up Zero's TLPD page recently? It looks pretty colorful to me http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/174_ZerOand I continue to sigh when he receives no hype when half assed Zergs from popular teams ride all of it
hmm havnt noticed it wow
i mean i know he is doing excellent but this is amz
he can very well take it if some how flash and jaedong would destroy one another
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Is it just me or did ZerO really manage to fix his ZvZ recently? I just watched the tie breaker game that he played against Yellow[ArnC] and he played very well, not to mention his amazing game against TypeB. In fact, all around his play has been looking about as good as Jaedong's, and better than any of the other top Zergs (Calm, EffOrt). I just hope that he can keep it up and make it far in the leagues, I really like the guy. Of course he's been streaky as hell in the past and its too early to tell if he will just self destruct after taking a few losses and go on another 10-game losing streak. I hope not though, I really like his style - so fun to watch.
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how can flash control 5 groups of m&m like that:O
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On December 12 2009 10:40 StylishVODs wrote:
how can flash control 5 groups of m&m like that:O
Blizzard is contracting him to playtest unlimited unit selection and MBS, notice how the raxes never stop blinking?
He just uses two hotkeys, 1mmmmmmmm2a
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On December 12 2009 10:47 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2009 10:40 StylishVODs wrote:
how can flash control 5 groups of m&m like that:O Blizzard is contracting him to playtest unlimited unit selection and MBS, notice how the raxes never stop blinking? He just uses two hotkeys, 1mmmmmmmm2a
It automatically pick the ideal ratio of Medics:Marines to.
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Flash has been such an amazing beast holy fuck he just forgot how to lose a game.
Jaedong back at the top of his game as well.
Really sad that Effort is losing it though. The Savior-Effort legacy is too good to give up
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The way JD and Flash are raping currently... Their OSL match will decide who will end up #1 for sure.
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On December 13 2009 20:53 SuperArc wrote:
The way JD and Flash are raping currently... Their OSL match will decide who will end up #1 for sure.
Water also wet.
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