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Dyme
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:15:55
June 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#101
Can anyone comprehend why Protoss needs the Mothership Core?

I can kinda see a purpose for some defense advantage in PvP.
But isn't Protoss already the most forgiving race? (Shields, strong units etc.)

And then on top of that Mass Recall? I just don't see why Protoss would the race that needs another mechanism that is completely "wooopsy, just herp derped my army into a shitty spot, better herp derp outta here".

Also, Terrans units look SOOOO bad. Haha those mines are so incredibly bad. It's funny how Terran has strong Marines, so subsequently every single other unit has to be weird or bad.
The mine can go to the corner of Seeker Missile and Nuke... the bad, completely avoidable, expensive AoE corner.
Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
June 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#102
22 range capital ship, with mum coming back with a ground vortex?

Yeah you can send those broodlords my way, thx.

The Protoss changes sound awesome, especially with the Mothership core giving the race a free town portal. Yeeeaaaaahhh, toss looks way too cool.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3759 Posts
June 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#103
Tempest idea looks horrible. Ultralisks should keep frenzy. Terran yet another close step to being transformer race, I guess.
StormShield24
Profile Joined March 2011
United States32 Posts
June 08 2012 22:13 GMT
#104
22 range tempest?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


..................awesome
"You just got slaughtered by a guy who's talking like Dr. Seuss. Its cool, it happens." -Day[9]
pit5000
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
June 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#105
hope the carrier makes it!
Behold my awesome?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
June 08 2012 22:14 GMT
#106
Spider mines fuck yeah :D :D :D
Romanes eunt domus
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
June 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#107
Twitter: Khaldor: Since I was asked: Warhounds don't have anti_air anymore
Twitter: Khaldor: Widow Mines are 75/25 and available at the factory right away. Also benefit from a reactor

lol.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#108
I wonder if you can attack the mines before they hit. Also curious to see if they're viable as a factory unit and not an ability/upgrade
Killcycle
Profile Joined January 2011
United States170 Posts
June 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#109
22 range on the Tempest? Who decided that Protoss were the artillery masters? That's a Terran thing, *cough*.

No tank changes? Herm. Like the stuff mostly, though. Swarm host is awesome, Widow Mine is awesome(sounding), but the Warhound now only attacks ground? It's becoming more and more an upgrade marauder. I can see how it'd be helpful in countering mech in TvT. Though I suppose if the new battle hellion works against zealots as well as Blizz is saying it will, a mechanical marauder would synergize better with upgrades and whatnot.

Purty good, though. Can't wait for beta :D
I fear not the shadows of glory nor the echoes of eternity; place before me a true rendition of greatness... and then we shall see.
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
June 08 2012 22:15 GMT
#110
I'm loving these changes. The Viper, Widow Mine and new Hellion sound awesome, I really hope Blizzard keeps those as they are no matter what. Oracle, new Mothership and Swarm Host sound cool, but I wouldn't get depressed if they got cut. Warhound and Tempest are more meh to me, we'll have to see how they work out in practice.
NaDa/Jaedong/Liquid-Fanboy
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
June 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#111
so terrans also have burrowed banelings now?
:D
@dbrisingr
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
June 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#112
On June 09 2012 07:15 Snowbear wrote:
Twitter: Khaldor: Since I was asked: Warhounds don't have anti_air anymore
Twitter: Khaldor: Widow Mines are 75/25 and available at the factory right away. Also benefit from a reactor

lol.


wow that's expensive
Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
June 08 2012 22:16 GMT
#113
Don't like the tempest; seems like collosus but *more* boring if that's possible.

Protoss builds collosus/tempest
Zerg/Terran doesn't have corruptors/vikings
Game ends

or

Protoss builds collosus/tempest
Zerg/Terran has corruptors/vikings
Game continues.

Also, 2 recalls? + planetary fortress meets shield generator that can teleport away when in trouble??
I don't get why they are buffing protoss lategame so much, it's really not their weak point at all.

Birdfood
Profile Joined May 2012
United States33 Posts
June 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#114
I find most of this stuff to be incredibly retarded... LOL
roach-immortal is pretty good vs stalkers -Idra
BashfulBen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Ireland29 Posts
June 08 2012 22:18 GMT
#115
As a protoss I gotta say, if we can top up our chrono boost energy with the moship core, seems a bit crazy powerful :/
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
June 08 2012 22:19 GMT
#116
The Mothership retains its Recall ability, and the Vortex spell from Wings of Liberty now affects ground units only.


Fucking YES
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
terran0330
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand106 Posts
June 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#117
I'm actually rather sad that HOTS is no longer standalone ;c I was looking forward to having my girlfriend and I both pick up a copy to play, since she only has ever got to play WOL through my account :c Now she has to purchase WOL in order to play HOTS, damn. I hope there is some other option because I do understand that is how expansions work but this is 2012 and other options should exist haha

Besides that, all changes look good, I very much like the teleport ability of the mothership to other Nexi, very nice.
Brotoss FTW
dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
June 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#118
I hope everyone who preorders gets a beta key =)
HellNino
Profile Joined September 2011
France156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 22:22:25
June 08 2012 22:20 GMT
#119
If Warhounds dosen't fire at air, i REALLY hope blizzard dosen't remove the thor...

Or their hope to see more mech play seems very compromised...

And 22 range tempest?! WTF... With an obs they can kill BL when they're still in the zerg base...
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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
June 08 2012 22:21 GMT
#120
22range? are you kidding me?
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