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2011 in Review - TL Awards - Page 9
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:21 asdfOu wrote: Ummm jjajki not for break out performance but leenock is? We always knew leenock was a boss, he just paired with all the titans so he never got to show his full potential.. Jjakji on the other hand... Agree... well Leenock like you said never showed his "full potential" (assuming he was that good or close to it shortly before GSL November) but you're right jjakji came out of nowhere. Didn't he come straight from Code B into Code A into Code S into winning GSL November? Leenock, however, has been known as a decent Zerg for about the entire year, and has been improving ever since. Also I don't agree with Thorzain being a break out player. Yeah he's good and he came at TSL3 quite fast but I would have given Jjakji a nomination instead. If Leenock deserved the best break out player nomination, Jjakji deserved it more. Anyways I would say Jjakji > Thorzain, even. In both cases we never really knew the other player. Jjakji has been playing in some korean leagues, but no one (on TL at least) has really given much coverage on him. However, Jjakji won Code S... Thorzain beat MC, sure, but really that's his only impressive win. Fruit Dealer has been playing poorly ever since after GSL Open 1, and none of the other players Thorzain beat were notable. I mean, I really don't think Tyler nor Kas would even be able to stay in Code A consistently, if they were to make it at all. Jjakji jumped into Code S immediately and won the whole thing. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:34 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Agree... well Leenock like you said never showed his "full potential" (assuming he was that good or close to it shortly before GSL November) but you're right jjakji came out of nowhere. Didn't he come straight from Code B into Code A into Code S into winning GSL November? Leenock, however, has been known as a decent Zerg for about the entire year, and has been improving ever since. Also I don't agree with Thorzain being a break out player. Yeah he's good and he came at TSL3 quite fast but I would have given Jjakji a nomination instead. If Leenock deserved the best break out player nomination, Jjakji deserved it more. Anyways I would say Jjakji > Thorzain, even. In both cases we never really knew the other player. Jjakji has been playing in some korean leagues, but no one (on TL at least) has really given much coverage on him. However, Jjakji won Code S... Thorzain beat MC, sure, but really that's his only impressive win. Fruit Dealer has been playing poorly ever since after GSL Open 1, and none of the other players Thorzain beat were notable. I mean, I really don't think Tyler nor Kas would even be able to stay in Code A consistently, if they were to make it at all. Jjakji jumped into Code S immediately and won the whole thing. Anyone who seen GSL the entire year would know what keept leenock back was his horrid ZvP(and still is...). Jjakjis only real preformance before GSL was the korean weekly monthly finals #1 which alot of people dint watch so he came as a shock to quite alot of people Also why do kiwikakki keep getting these "creative" awards? Theres koreans who have made alot more viable builds than him. I dont really see him having added anything worthwhile to protoss builds | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:43 ragnorr wrote: Anyone who seen GSL the entire year would know what keept leenock back was his horrid ZvP(and still is...). Jjakjis only real preformance before GSL was the korean weekly monthly finals #1 which alot of people dint watch so he came as a shock to quite alot of people Also why do kiwikakki keep getting these "creative" awards? Theres koreans who have made alot more viable builds than him. I dont really see him having added anything worthwhile to protoss builds Kiwi was one of the guys who brought zealot harass vs Z to the spotlight. His mothership usage is quite unique too. And that's just of the top of my head, he's being creative in a lot more ways. - I don't understand the part of idra "Stealing canadians girlfriends". Can someone explain please? | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:47 dmnum wrote: Kiwi was one of the guys who brought zealot harass vs Z to the spotlight. His mothership usage is quite unique too. And that's just of the top of my head, he's being creative in a lot more ways. - I don't understand the part of idra "Stealing canadians girlfriends". Can someone explain please? At one point Idra had a girlfriend from Canada. Not sure what's the deal, behind the "stealing" part. | ||
DropTester
Australia608 Posts
Ends up a good year for esports | ||
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CakeMaster
Canada65 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:32 mijagi182 wrote: well, imo there should be one more "foreign team of the year" title and it should go to mousesports since they have the best chievements as a team by far : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mousesports#Team_Achievements, srsly? Yeah HuK! Small Canadian Protoss players beat everyone. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Gamma4
Australia75 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Mouz has won // placed top 3 in basically every single team event in 2011. They got 2nd in IPL Team Arena Challenge (only foreign team to beat Koreans?), 2 time EG Masters Cup winner, 3rd GCPL Season 2. Even EG hasn't finished higher than 4th in its own team league, Liquid couldn't even get higher than 4th in either GCPL Season 1 or 2. Not to mention Mouz has: Thorzain and MaNa, who both have numerous podium placements. MorroW and HasuObs are also widely considered top foreigners. How can Mouz be ignored? Because they're not as popular and don't have as good marketing? If there is a tie - it should be between Mouz and EG , Liquid has no place there , no offense ... | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:55 CakeMaster wrote: srsly? Yeah HuK! Small Canadian Protoss players beat everyone. ?? what are you talking about, players beat players all the time. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1587&part=games&vs=1598&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=8&from_day=15&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=29&action=Update mouzHasu i.e beats Huk more often than Huk beats him... edit : oh i just noticed where are you from | ||
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Janar
Netherlands96 Posts
Happy new year everyone :-) | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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THE_JDUB
2 Posts
I wish that the "I am NaDa" moment from MLG Raleigh was included in the ceremony of the year category though. I thought it was a rather compelling moment. Link: | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 01 2012 19:07 Xeris wrote: TL giving itself team of the year award based on: a Ro4 (not a championship) by Jinro, and 2 championships won by HuK, who is on EG. Mouz has won // placed top 3 in basically every single team event in 2011. They got 2nd in IPL Team Arena Challenge (only foreign team to beat Koreans?), 2 time EG Masters Cup winner, 3rd GCPL Season 2. Even EG hasn't finished higher than 4th in its own team league, Liquid couldn't even get higher than 4th in either GCPL Season 1 or 2. Not to mention Mouz has: Thorzain and MaNa, who both have numerous podium placements. MorroW and HasuObs are also widely considered top foreigners. How can Mouz be ignored? Because they're not as popular and don't have as good marketing? If there is a tie - it should be between Mouz and EG , Liquid has no place there , no offense ... Both those wins by Huk AND, if we're being honest MLG Orlando as well, belong to Liquid (MLG Orlando happened like a few weeks after the switch, while Huk was still in oGs house, and the only thing EG had to do with that win was basically putting him on a plane to get there). Implying that Huk's wins don't count because EG bought him off later on is ridiculous, especially in a yearly awards kind of thing. It's not like Mouz won Proleague. All "team leagues" in 2011 were online clan war leagues with low to mediocre prize money (when spread over the entire team). Teams lost because of lack of interest/preparation, or even players to play every game out. Back to back GSL semifinals alone carry more weight than any of those. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Lavit2099
United States390 Posts
HuK is Canadian. Keep that in mind. Now, go read this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlfriendInCanada Any questions? | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On January 01 2012 19:21 Talin wrote: Both those wins by Huk AND, if we're being honest MLG Orlando as well, belong to Liquid (MLG Orlando happened like a few weeks after the switch, while Huk was still in oGs house, and the only thing EG had to do with that win was basically putting him on a plane to get there). Implying that Huk's wins don't count because EG bought him off later on is ridiculous, especially in a yearly awards kind of thing. It's not like Mouz won Proleague. All "team leagues" in 2011 were online clan war leagues with low to mediocre prize money (when spread over the entire team). Teams lost because of lack of interest/preparation, or even players to play every game out. Back to back GSL semifinals alone carry more weight than any of those. They belong to the player, actually -- because it's an individual event. If you want to look at best team, look at team events, otherwise don't count individual titles as a team accomplishment O_O | ||
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