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On January 01 2012 20:11 bmml wrote:
EG/TL winning foreign team of the year is a bit of a joke, especially TL they did nothing on the team game scene apart from lose :/. Plus half the accolades you attributed to them were won by non foreign members! pfft.
It's really hard to differentiate the team with the overall brand.
Overall TL of course deserves the award for all the awesome stuff they did this year, the TSL, fan meets, promotions, Map contest etc...
But I have to agree the team has been disappointing. I love most of the TL players, Ret, Tyler, Jinro especially, but on results you have to say they aren't really cutting it. It would be nice if TL could give some roster spots (and funding) to up and coming players. Run a couple of big "courage" style qualification tournaments to find the best young foreign talent and see if we can't find the next MVP somewhere in foreigner land.
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well written I loved reading it and for me Catz/Drewbie had the most relaxing user streams 
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On January 01 2012 19:07 Xeris wrote:
TL giving itself team of the year award based on: a Ro4 (not a championship) by Jinro, and 2 championships won by HuK, who is on EG.
Mouz has won // placed top 3 in basically every single team event in 2011. They got 2nd in IPL Team Arena Challenge (only foreign team to beat Koreans?), 2 time EG Masters Cup winner, 3rd GCPL Season 2.
Even EG hasn't finished higher than 4th in its own team league, Liquid couldn't even get higher than 4th in either GCPL Season 1 or 2.
Not to mention Mouz has: Thorzain and MaNa, who both have numerous podium placements. MorroW and HasuObs are also widely considered top foreigners. How can Mouz be ignored? Because they're not as popular and don't have as good marketing?
If there is a tie - it should be between Mouz and EG , Liquid has no place there , no offense ...
100% agree, without a doubt TL has done more for the SC community than anyone. But when it comes to team dynamics they don't come near to EG's level. Vote should've consisted of Mouz and a few other team. At the end of the day EG takes the top spot easy, they have way too much star power/good placings for any other teams to compare.
Can someone explain or link me to the drama mentions? Particularly the last one.
• Some translator trashes every ESPORT outside of Korean Brood War, 'quits' ESPORTS after getting called out by some guy who casts games and some other guy who cut his hair.
• Some guy makes a post about a girl supposedly manipulating him steal a headset and some other girls who knew this girl show up to defend her.
• Some guy who streams a lot gets DDOS'd by some kid, and he ends up fighting his dad or something; now they're going to be on some TV show or whatever.
• Some woman can't deal with people on the internet saying some mean things about some gold-league girl she hired for her pro-gaming team, so she threatens to take legal action or something.*
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Almost every choice seems fine, except team of the year (international), where you judge only individual wins (of Koreans half of the time). Mouz in team leagues is better than both, only losing to korean teams but they are not TL stars...
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Thanks for the writeup,just the thing to cure my hangover 
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I think these are overly influenced by recent events.
I think MMA is by far the best "breakout" performance.
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People need to look at the big picture and not just to the last months, the first half of 2011 was dominated by TeamLiquid, they used to be so scary... Then, after Huk's transfer EG started to dominate the scene... (I'm not saying that this was because of Huk), sure each team has had their spotlights in each half of the year ( IdrA, herO).
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Great writeup, thanks a lot
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Great article, ty TL for a fantastic year! <3
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Amazing Article! I dont agree with all winners, but still... utterly amazing!
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Everyone saying that the choices are biased should know that (1) they're really not, perhaps you're biased?, and (2) these were chosen by a group of people, not just one person. I assure you there were a lot of arguments about just about every category.
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Boxer is the most creative player of this year in my opinion...
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Breakout Performance
MMA
Biggest News Story
PPSL
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Yay! DHW won best european tournament award! I feel so proud to have worked as crew during it =)
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wow its been an awesome year for starcraft
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What a great year for esports.
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Nice write-up for the most part, however HuK isn't 'half'-American, he's Canadian.
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On January 01 2012 20:59 tree.hugger wrote:
Everyone saying that the choices are biased should know that (1) they're really not, perhaps you're biased?, and (2) these were chosen by a group of people, not just one person. I assure you there were a lot of arguments about just about every category.
thats ridiculous statement... anyway, the only situation this choices werent much biased is when you have all teams managers/principals/coaches from all over the world voting for players/teams (voting for your own team not allowed ofc)
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Nice writeup, it was a nice year for SC2 with awesome ppl and games,  to TL and Sean
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EPT
