EPT2011 in Review - TL Awards - Page 12
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Chewie
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sariusly
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Roychez
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Zealously
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BlondeOna
Australia89 Posts
This write-up is great but there's obvious points of bias. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
p.s. the game of the year was the perfect pick! | ||
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Funkydonky
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But it's a very well written article, nonetheless. | ||
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Rebel_
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
 thank youbest game of the year: mma vs DRG game 7 blizz cup clearly imo i think also  Feast is a player to watch out for imoalready qualifying for 2 iems in 2012 happy new year to everyone | ||
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EllipZ
France378 Posts
happy new year TL!<3<3<3 | ||
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Testuser
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 Thanks for the write-up, thanks for the year and thanks TL. Happy New Years. | ||
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Hallon
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• Some guy who streams a lot gets DDOS'd by some kid, and he ends up fighting his dad or something; now they're going to be on some TV show or whatever. • Some woman can't deal with people on the internet saying some mean things about some gold-league girl she hired for her pro-gaming team, so she threatens to take legal action or something. Someone, tell me more! | ||
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KingPaddy
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Edit: But overall a great read, thanks TL! <3 | ||
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ottersareneat
United States55 Posts
. While I do think that a case could be made for EG edging out TL as the singular team of the year (even by just a hair), and while that may be my (admittedly biased) personal opinion, I don't think an objective argument can really be made for either side coming out noticeably on top. When you consider all aspects of what makes a team great, including player support, fan engagement, community presence, business development, and (of course) tournament results, the gap between EG and TL - if it exists at all - is just too minimal to warrant either team winning the award outright. Both EG and TL have our respective strengths and weaknesses, but overall, I don't think there are any international teams doing a better job of running their StarCraft divisions than EG and TL. And I want to both thank and applaud Victor, James, Ken, and everyone over at TL for a job very, very well done. I mean this very sincerely. This is not meant to take credit away from any of the other very high-level international teams, of course; it's just that, as far as StarCraft goes, I think EG and TL are at the forefront of international teams. I'm very happy to share both the rivalry and team of the year awards with TL. Speaking comfortably for Scott, Colin, Cody, and everyone over at EG, we have so much respect for what TL does for its players and the community, and we're very excited to move into 2012 with such an intense and storied rivalry intact. Watching DreamHack Winter was a very interesting experience for me. On the one hand, I obviously want EG to win every tournament we enter (especially that particular event, which was so well-produced and carried such prestige), and as such, I was *absolutely* heartbroken when HerO defeated PuMa in game seven to take the event. The loss haunted me for the better part of a week, causing many fingertips-to-the-forehead head shakes and long-inhale-short-exhale sighs. Yet, at the same time, I found the logical part of my brain continually saying, "This is good for the sport. Liquid was overdue for a big win." I think that this anecdote is aptly representative of the dilemma and conflict you constantly face as a team owner. On the one hand, you want the sport to grow and flourish, and you understand that in the big picture of things, in order for that to happen, it's necessary for multiple teams to do well, and for intense rivalries to develop. Yet at the same time, you genuinely want your players and your team to win every, single map they play, and if you're not doing everything it takes to win (within the rules), you're doing yourself, your players, and your fans an unacceptable disservice. Somehow, these two desires, while in theory rather mutually exclusive, in practice coexist in every team owner's mind on a daily basis. And so, while on the one hand I hope that an EG player wins every single tournament in 2012, on the other hand I know that it's good for the sport if Liquid (and other teams) get their share of victories as well. So, Victor, and everyone at TL, I truly wish all of you good luck going into the new year. Just, y'know, not too much luck, please .-Alex @ottersareneat on Twitter | ||
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bLooD.
Germany470 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
i remember them not winning anything as a team and getting crushed by most other teams now that they bought themselves two koreans they should kinda be up there but they keep failing in teamleagues even getting all-killed in a Bo9 format by SaSe its kinda ridiculous that they even consider making a team of the year award on the website that stands for a team so that itself is kinda cute but the fact that they even make their bias so obvious is just kinda ridiculous i mean EG and mouz are also not even tied up in results in team leagues and since thats obviously where teams should be measured its just .... (and even if you add 1v1 tournaments to that mouz and EG should still be way far ahead of liquid with EG being the more achieved team in 1v1 tournaments and mouz being better in team competitions) but yeah what would you expect | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On January 01 2012 19:07 Xeris wrote: TL giving itself team of the year award based on: a Ro4 (not a championship) by Jinro, and 2 championships won by HuK, who is on EG. Mouz has won // placed top 3 in basically every single team event in 2011. They got 2nd in IPL Team Arena Challenge (only foreign team to beat Koreans?), 2 time EG Masters Cup winner, 3rd GCPL Season 2. Even EG hasn't finished higher than 4th in its own team league, Liquid couldn't even get higher than 4th in either GCPL Season 1 or 2. Not to mention Mouz has: Thorzain and MaNa, who both have numerous podium placements. MorroW and HasuObs are also widely considered top foreigners. How can Mouz be ignored? Because they're not as popular and don't have as good marketing? If there is a tie - it should be between Mouz and EG , Liquid has no place there , no offense ... Oh my, please get more worked up over this. Also perhaps try to have a level head while posting? You completely look past most of liquid's achievements and immediately jump to some online team leagues? Really? There seems to be more bias in your post than there is in the entire OP. Breathe, think, do some research, then maybe post if you are still upset. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On January 01 2012 19:33 ptbl wrote: Huk won dreamhack summer and.homestory cup while he was on.Liquid. The accolades should stay with the team.he won the championship on. It is like saying the six championship Michael Jordan with the Chicago Bulls should be considered the washongton wizard's championships because that was the last team Jordan played on. The championshops stays with the team and doesn't get transferred because the person moved to another organization. It's been the community consensus for a top 4 (top 8 debatable) in GSL for a foreigner is on par with winning a western championship if not better. Mouz has only won a single individual championship in 2011, TSL3. Until tuey can demonstrate that they can win multiple major individual championships prwferably LANs, I don't they deserve to be team of the year. no your point is wrong basketball is a team sports but sc2 is 1v1 so all achievements belong to the player not to the team because its not like the team helped him to win the championship (like if he had a road of haypro, tlo, ret, sheth, and they all lost on purpose so he won that way that would be a team achievement but obviously there will never be something like that in sc2 so 1v1 events have nothing to do with the team a player is on) the achievements display the strenght of a player which helps the strenght of the lineup which helps the current team but not a team he has been on some months ago also he doesnt say that mouz should be the top team but he says that it is between EG and mouz and liquid is not up there (also mouz has 6 top 4 finishes in major tournaments while TL only has 5 eventhough they have a much bigger lineup and EG has 7 with almost double the amount of players so...) On January 01 2012 22:29 Hall0wed wrote: Oh my, please get more worked up over this. Also perhaps try to have a level head while posting? You completely look past most of liquid's achievements and immediately jump to some online team leagues? Really? There seems to be more bias in your post than there is in the entire OP. Breathe, think, do some research, then maybe post if you are still upset. better do some research yourself bro | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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Grovbolle
Denmark3811 Posts
Really looking forward to 2012 and what it will bring in terms of great games. | ||
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