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[GSL] Code-A/S July Review - Page 4
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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Perchloric
Brazil163 Posts
On August 05 2011 08:46 Duravi wrote: Great write-up, but you really, really, don't need spoiler tags in an article posted almost a week after the finals titled Code A/S July review (other than for space in which case having the matches 5-7 there is useless). Someone would have to be incredibly stupid to get spoiled by this. Very minor complaint though, over-spoilficationing (yes I made that up) drives me crazy on this site, enjoyed everything else! You'd be surprised. | ||
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mightykites
United States10 Posts
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corpsepose
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever. GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC. GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2). GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent. I'm not saying nestea is bad. I'm saying that there's a high chance that if MVP, Bomer or any other top5 player would have had any of the paths Nestea had in his 3 victorious GSL runs, those players would likely had won too. I'll stop the disclaimers here. But I don't hate Nestea, in fact I love him and I think he's the best player currently. My point is that he's a lucky bastard :D The difficulty of his GSL open 2 run is also open to discussion, one could argue it was not as easy as I described it. Nestea is good, and if he keeps winning against those "real opponents" it's because he's very good. The thing is, Nestea is also very lucky. Perhaps one day we'll see Nestea draw a real group of death and meet more than one top tier code S player on his way, and then win code S. Until then, my theory is that he is an extremely talented player and also the luckiest GSL player, who basically won 3 GSL in 3 matches and 20 semi walkovers. (some of those were walkovers because he's a ZvZ god, which defeat my point a little :D) | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
Fantastic Read | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On August 05 2011 10:58 FuzzyJAM wrote: One question: Where are the Junkka Awards?! They will be every other tournament. So look for them in August. | ||
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GinDo
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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chrissummers
243 Posts
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote: Nestea is good, I have no problem about that. But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever. GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC. GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2). GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent. 1. MC was hyped back then in GSL Open S2. If you watch the VOD, you will see that he was the HUGE favorite and artosis even said some people claim that MC is the best player right now. Calling him mediocre is acutally not woth discussing. 2. TheWind and Zenio were very strong players at that time, especially zenio was said to be a ZvZ monster. 3. Anypro was in his prime back then, beating July beforehand. I don't see how you can claim Anypros PvZ back then wasn't good. 4. Coca is not bad at all, in fact, he beat alicia and showed very decent play. in fact, he also showed good play against Nestea. 5. Hongun showed in this tournament that he can do a lot of good timing attacks and for a good reason he almost allkilled Slayers. Not dropping a map against someone like him is so amazing. | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On August 05 2011 11:33 GinDo wrote: Who in their right mind picks MVP O_o. Being Cocky gets you nowhere. MC lol | ||
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Evilruler
Brazil116 Posts
Too bad I missed the finals. It was 4 AM here when the alarm started, but I could'nt wake up. Long day and that "it's ZvZ" feeling. Turns out it was awesome. And nestea ftw. | ||
Waxangel
United States33503 Posts
On August 05 2011 08:03 unoriginalname wrote: I'm sure it delayed both upgrades enough that they were not done for NesTea's 2nd Roach attack, NesTea's +2 wasn't finished either but the contaminate meant neither were LosirA's +1 +1. This is actually shown in your follow up screen shot on the production tab. Else wise I think it would have been 1-1 vs 0-1 during the 2nd timing. nah, if you watch the VOD the timing works out so the armor is done regardless, unless he had chain contaminated the correct evo chamber | ||
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Waxangel
United States33503 Posts
On August 05 2011 08:21 MildSeven wrote: |Foreign fans clearly don't watch enough GSL, as their surprise at the horrifying deaths of foreign pro-gamers at the hands of blue-flame hellions at MLG shows." this is absolutely true, even for the casters at MSL who'd expect to watch GSL as part of research for their profession. It was really pathetic to see casters getting all hyped up and surprised about mech and helions as some crazy new shit they never seen. It's been around for a while, and the first i saw of it effectively in fact was in NASL from Strelok vs Nada, then Nada used it in the GSL and the build's been perfected since then with additions of even more helions, raven to counter marauders, better viking balance, etc. So pathetic to see foreign casters get so shocked, even Day9. I often wonder what these guys are doing, don't they have time to at least watch the GSL and stay on top of trend and info like any professional of their trade would do, stay ontop of the trend. But this way we get to be Starcraft hipsters | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
Excellent read. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On August 05 2011 11:50 Waxangel wrote: But this way we get to be Starcraft hipsters and I like it.  | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On August 05 2011 07:05 Liquid`Zephyr wrote: It is known. at least it was 4-0 and sorta still a fun series Winter is coming. Also, yeah at least 2 of the games were pretty solid. | ||
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dudecrush
Canada418 Posts
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