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[GSL] Code-A/S July Review - Page 5

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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 05 2011 04:27 GMT
#81
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote:
Nestea is good, I have no problem about that.
But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever.

GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC.

GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2).

GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent.

I'm not saying nestea is bad. I'm saying that there's a high chance that if MVP, Bomer or any other top5 player would have had any of the paths Nestea had in his 3 victorious GSL runs, those players would likely had won too.

I'll stop the disclaimers here. But I don't hate Nestea, in fact I love him and I think he's the best player currently. My point is that he's a lucky bastard :D The difficulty of his GSL open 2 run is also open to discussion, one could argue it was not as easy as I described it.

Nestea is good, and if he keeps winning against those "real opponents" it's because he's very good. The thing is, Nestea is also very lucky. Perhaps one day we'll see Nestea draw a real group of death and meet more than one top tier code S player on his way, and then win code S. Until then, my theory is that he is an extremely talented player and also the luckiest GSL player, who basically won 3 GSL in 3 matches and 20 semi walkovers. (some of those were walkovers because he's a ZvZ god, which defeat my point a little :D)


Well you won't have to worry about Nestea's GSL August run. He has MMA in his group and will likely either face MC or MVP in the Ro16.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
August 05 2011 04:51 GMT
#82
If you bribe your player with a puppy as a reward, he will more than likely make the semifinals of a GSL.


LOL

Nice write-up! Thanks!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 05 2011 04:58 GMT
#83
SAVE MSL!!!!!

ROFL such a good read. Thank you so much!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 05:06:40
August 05 2011 05:06 GMT
#84
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote:
Nestea is good, I have no problem about that.
But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever.

GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC.

GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2).

GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent.

I'm not saying nestea is bad. I'm saying that there's a high chance that if MVP, Bomer or any other top5 player would have had any of the paths Nestea had in his 3 victorious GSL runs, those players would likely had won too.

I'll stop the disclaimers here. But I don't hate Nestea, in fact I love him and I think he's the best player currently. My point is that he's a lucky bastard :D The difficulty of his GSL open 2 run is also open to discussion, one could argue it was not as easy as I described it.

Nestea is good, and if he keeps winning against those "real opponents" it's because he's very good. The thing is, Nestea is also very lucky. Perhaps one day we'll see Nestea draw a real group of death and meet more than one top tier code S player on his way, and then win code S. Until then, my theory is that he is an extremely talented player and also the luckiest GSL player, who basically won 3 GSL in 3 matches and 20 semi walkovers. (some of those were walkovers because he's a ZvZ god, which defeat my point a little :D)


It's not luck his competition keeps failing, on either meeting him or getting beaten by him.
He is the best player in the world, so called easy way or not.
Blame MC/Bomber instead.

shadowy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria305 Posts
August 05 2011 05:27 GMT
#85
Yet another great read.
[Fear the leather Gracket!] // ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ // Liquid'Hero hwaiting!
Eroart
Profile Joined July 2011
Greece37 Posts
August 05 2011 05:42 GMT
#86
How come no one has mentioned it yet?

Definite GSL Fact:
"If a couple hundred people on TL bet their lives on you winning a match against a severely un-favored opponent, you will simply lose!"

Great writeup btw!
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
August 05 2011 05:56 GMT
#87
I loved the lessons learned.

Great read
Aiyeeeee
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 05 2011 06:22 GMT
#88
>Any time Artosis starts saying you're the best at something, and your name isn't Nestea, you will more than likely get eliminated right after.

I love you.
ffxiv enjoyer
knightwulf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada174 Posts
August 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#89
great read thanks #19 soo true. i really like him too
AgentV
Profile Joined November 2010
United States159 Posts
August 05 2011 06:47 GMT
#90
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote:
Nestea is good, I have no problem about that.
But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever.

GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC.

GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2).

GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent.

I'm not saying nestea is bad. I'm saying that there's a high chance that if MVP, Bomer or any other top5 player would have had any of the paths Nestea had in his 3 victorious GSL runs, those players would likely had won too.

I'll stop the disclaimers here. But I don't hate Nestea, in fact I love him and I think he's the best player currently. My point is that he's a lucky bastard :D The difficulty of his GSL open 2 run is also open to discussion, one could argue it was not as easy as I described it.

Nestea is good, and if he keeps winning against those "real opponents" it's because he's very good. The thing is, Nestea is also very lucky. Perhaps one day we'll see Nestea draw a real group of death and meet more than one top tier code S player on his way, and then win code S. Until then, my theory is that he is an extremely talented player and also the luckiest GSL player, who basically won 3 GSL in 3 matches and 20 semi walkovers. (some of those were walkovers because he's a ZvZ god, which defeat my point a little :D)


Well, you do realize that every opponent that Nestea faced that was not "real" actually beat the "real" or someone who beat the "real" opponents to get there right?
Imo, the fact that any player can beat some generally higher skilled in a boX just goes to show how tough competitive SC2 is.
Nestea is good because he can keep the consistency by not losing to lesser player and can still beat "real" opponents when it counts.
Don Rag U
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 06:59:44
August 05 2011 06:55 GMT
#91
So many ASoIaF references in this thread... did I miss something?

EDIT: It's in the Proleague hype post as well and I feel stupid for forgetting that a television series has just been made on it. Ignore my stupid question.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
GhchD
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary52 Posts
August 05 2011 07:02 GMT
#92
The 20 things to remember made me laugh like hell !! awesome thread
Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
August 05 2011 07:08 GMT
#93
Kudos to the OP man, great read lots of hilarious moments, especially the artosis mvp elimination joke. Also to the guy that said Nestea had the easiest path to the finals, you clearly don't watch enough GSL and underestimate the talent of all the players in Code S.
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
August 05 2011 07:13 GMT
#94
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote:
Nestea is good, I have no problem about that.
But Nestea won 3 times the 3 times he had the most easiest path to the trophy ever.

GSL open 2 : TheBest, MC (MC was not what he is now. He was a mediocre protoss at this time, he exploded the next season (which means he was quite good during GSL2, I'll admit that)), TheWind, Zenio, Boxer, MKP. MKP was an ultimate challenge, it's true. That makes one real opponent he beat, one and half if I count MC.

GSL May : Clide, Jinro in groups. Got beat by Clide, won twice against jinro. Then FD, anypro, sC, inca. One real opponent again (sC, won 3-2).

GSL July : free win vs Rain, then July in groups. Then he got a path until the finals that July would have won too, I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history. All the top tier players would have won this GSL (or went into the finals) with this path : ensnare, coca, hongun. Losira in the finals was his only real opponent.

I'm not saying nestea is bad. I'm saying that there's a high chance that if MVP, Bomer or any other top5 player would have had any of the paths Nestea had in his 3 victorious GSL runs, those players would likely had won too.

I'll stop the disclaimers here. But I don't hate Nestea, in fact I love him and I think he's the best player currently. My point is that he's a lucky bastard :D The difficulty of his GSL open 2 run is also open to discussion, one could argue it was not as easy as I described it.

Nestea is good, and if he keeps winning against those "real opponents" it's because he's very good. The thing is, Nestea is also very lucky. Perhaps one day we'll see Nestea draw a real group of death and meet more than one top tier code S player on his way, and then win code S. Until then, my theory is that he is an extremely talented player and also the luckiest GSL player, who basically won 3 GSL in 3 matches and 20 semi walkovers. (some of those were walkovers because he's a ZvZ god, which defeat my point a little :D)


I know statistics dont say much but look. The man is 70-25 in the GSL so indeed a great record. Not to mention this GSL he didn't drop one fucking game and that says more that a lot, i mean really, how can you not drop 1 game, 1.

Great read, 10x for posting, and yeah Nestea is the best player in the world atm. Too bad you didn't mention it
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
August 05 2011 07:16 GMT
#95
On August 05 2011 10:58 MrCon wrote:
I think it was the easiest road to any major tournament victory of anygame at any point of time in history


I think your post might be the worst, most inane post on any major website at any point of time in the history of the internet. Always some noob who just doesn't get how hard it is to make it look so easy.
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 07:19:14
August 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#96
double post
Gamma4
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia75 Posts
August 05 2011 08:10 GMT
#97
just so you guys know you spelt tournament wrong in the preview of this post on the home page.
Just Huking around ;)
Harmonious
Profile Joined December 2010
179 Posts
August 05 2011 08:14 GMT
#98
On August 05 2011 06:51 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Nestea is good


You sir, have a flair for understatement.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 08:33:56
August 05 2011 08:33 GMT
#99
one day somewhere we willll have a 4-3 final lol with a comback included perhaps 2012? lol
Live and Let Die!
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 08:43:27
August 05 2011 08:43 GMT
#100
Really happy for NesTea. Truly is the best player, absolutely confirmed by his 3 GSL titles. Can't wait to see him in action in foreign tournaments someday, hopefully while he's still such an amazing player.

EDIT: 100th post =)
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