EPT[GSL] Liquid`Jinro Ro4 Foreigner Special - Page 6
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tapk69
Portugal264 Posts
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ubersoph
United States56 Posts
Keep your head up and feel better soon! | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
 Well done jinro! | ||
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GreenTea1
United States31 Posts
On January 24 2011 21:26 tapk69 wrote: Jinro you are a great player , no doubt .. But if you really want to be like MVP or MKP on the ladder you should work hard on micro and tactics.. i like harrassing , but you do banshee and helion every single game .. i dont like that style , winning because a flying dark templar killed 15 scvs, that takes the beauty of the game for the spectator.. at least for me , i like to see mkp or mvp atacks , they almost never harrass , they just go there and destroy everything.. that is beautifull , its what MC does , hits that time and boom... Good luck with the cold , the trainings and the next GSL that comes very fast.. i forgot to quote the other guy who replied to this, but he did mention that terran is a harassing race... if you think about it, the banshee, the hellion (with or without infernal preignitor), and the reaper are the best worker killing units in the game. even marine drops make mineral lines evaporate so quickly. i mean, compare that to other early game options of harass by the other races. a dt rush? colossus drop? a baneling drop, maybe. i feel like combined with bunkers being salvageable and auto-repair being available kinda spells out that that's how the terran race currently is supposed to be played...it's always been a very defensive race, with harassment opportunities. (even in sc1, with the vulture and wraith) but to be fair a kind of 'non harass and just kill him' playing style may be what entices you as a viewer. yes MVP or MKP might not harass and still roll over their opponents, but that doesn't mean that harassment doesn't have a place in sc2, either. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
I hope to see you in the GSL 5 finals against IdrA  | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
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MadSoju
Canada19 Posts
Funny enough, a Day[9] daily a few days ago mentioned how siege tanks could be problematic on Xelnaga for this very reason - ie more maneuverable armies can abuse the map, which is exactly what MKP did in that match. I don't think he even directly engaged Jinro's army until the very very end. Very nice play from both though, and I feel like either could have taken it. Good luck next GSL Jinro!! | ||
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IronWolf
South Africa315 Posts
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IronWolf
South Africa315 Posts
On January 25 2011 00:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Its true, and part of why I want to focus on mechanics practice - Id like to be a bit faster. This is why you will win. Knowing your strengths is easy, its knowing your weaknesses that makes you great! O...and scout more | ||
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theherder2
United States538 Posts
On January 24 2011 18:35 DND_Enkil wrote: I found this really interesting, knowing that the two best (arguably but up there somewhere at least) terrans spends most of thier practice time laddering. I also read from Jinros post that he mostly play practice games against teammates? I might be wrong here, but i do think that is a very BW style of practising? Pherhaps since SC2 is still new just laddering away like crazy is a better option at this stage, at least until you get your standard play up to the same level as MVP and MKP. I feel like with the new GSL format, practicing on the Ladder is definitely the way to go if you want to make it into the Ro8. Because you are only playing 1 game per opponent (for the most part) it doesn't promote playing the player rather than preparing for everything possible, ie Ladder practice. When it gets back to Bo5+, then singular practice with house/teammates is better but in the early rounds Laddering should help more especially if you are high on ladder and will hit guys like MVP or MC a lot, imho. | ||
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Tatsuyasama
Japan50 Posts
its was smart to protect your main with torrets but unfortunately u cant sit back and macro until u feel like to attack. would be better if you play offensive against bio and hope he will drop and get owned by torrets. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On January 25 2011 03:35 D_K_night wrote: Thanks Jinro, I'm a fan and I didn't realize that you were sick as well, during the matches against MarineKingPrime. I am also wondering, do you have any insights on the final match of tank/marine vs MMM? Nono, I was feeling 100% healthy right up until the games ended, it was SOOOO strange that I decided it could not possibly happen this quickly and I attributed it entirely to not sleeping well (thinking about the game etc, Im sure most people who play big tournaments dont sleep too well before big games), and went to the gym when I came home anyway. Not a good idea, as it turns out. Apparently it IS possible to go from feeling perfectly fine to having a fever, headache, throatache etc in the space of a couple of hours. Good to know. On January 25 2011 04:10 Tatsuyasama wrote: jinro have u ever consider too play only bio and air against mkp? i mean u saw the matches aginst nada and how he lost to drops(basetrades). its really hard to catch up with imobile units, when your productionfacilities gets destroyed by drops :/ its was smart to protect your main with torrets but unfortunately u cant sit back and macro until u feel like to attack. would be better if you play offensive against bio and hope he will drop and get owned by torrets. I have, and I will work on it - however I do think there is more room for improving my tank usage. In game 4, at several times I feel I could have done better with better decision making - for instance, I think you need to commit very clearly to base trading or going for a longer game, not be wishy washy and go out then go back to defend, because thats when you really get punished by the immobility. Also, you cant overdo your defenses - in the fight at my watch tower, I was trying to join my 2 armies and thereby trap his 2nd army, but I believe I had either too much of my army in the defensive location, or was simply too slow to do this (or a combination of both) and he engaged before/simultaneously. I think this was a mistake by me, at least partly. I think that tank/marine vs bio only in a base race is reasonably even, its just that he has been in this situation a lot more than me and is therefore better at it than me. A lot of the things I had decided before the game that I wanted to do, I did not actually do because its hard to implement everything in a high stress situation without being extremely comfortable with the situation - which as I said, I think MKP is. | ||
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MadSoju
Canada19 Posts
Jinro, though he had the gold your banshee harass was devastating. Do you feel if you'd defended and kept up the harass, while slowly expanding in true macro-style you could have won it, even though he had the gold? Do you think Day[9]'s comment that seige tanks can be problematic on Xelnaga is valid, or do you think they can generally work with the correct strategy? Awesome games, man. Jinro fighting! | ||
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Tatsuyasama
Japan50 Posts
nonetheless im proud u got that far, and hope u will take it next time. | ||
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Epsilon8
Canada173 Posts
On January 25 2011 02:53 iPood wrote: it's possible. Anything's possible. It's just not probable. Your level of arrogance disturbs me. | ||
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Dankbeer
United States61 Posts
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On January 25 2011 02:50 Epsilon8 wrote: Can you really call out someones skill level and potential like that? Can you see the future? Are you all knowing? If Jinro has the dedication and passion, which I'm pretty sure he does, he can attain the highest skill level. I ranted about this on r/sc2 a while back, but it obviously won't go away. I am a bit of the older generation (I am 29) and have loads of competative gaming history, all the way back to QW, so 15y+... it seems to be a trend only the last few years and especially with SC2 that random trolls seem to think they have an absolutely accurate estimate of somebodys skill and who will, without any doubt, beat that person. This troll is even worst as he seems to think to have the knowledge that x1, x2, x3 and x4 will all beat y not only now, but at any given point in time. If this has been the case in BW as well, most or some may not get my point, as they have gotten used to it - but this is not how I grew up in the competative gaming scene and more importantly, it is absolutely not true. Just looking at the win percentages that any of the top players have on ladder, should tell any reasonable human being that there is nobody who wins even close to 100% of his matches, let alone against somebody who is very close to his skill level. Cheers, JD | ||
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pokemeanddie
Canada37 Posts
Looking forward to next season, Jinro fighting! | ||
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AWakefield
Canada420 Posts
I was really hoping you'd pull through against MarineKing, but they were entertaining games that kept me at the edge of my seat. I really enjoyed them even if the outcome was not what I wanted. | ||
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