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On January 24 2011 18:35 DND_Enkil wrote:Show nested quote +Both MarineKing and MVP are extremely active ladder players, and I think their ability to just beat opponents with standard, strong play saves them a lot of mental strength in the earlier rounds of GSLs, whereas I usually spend a lot of time and effort preparing new things from the first round to the last, energy that could be better saved for the later rounds I think. I found this really interesting, knowing that the two best (arguably but up there somewhere at least) terrans spends most of thier practice time laddering. I also read from Jinros post that he mostly play practice games against teammates? I might be wrong here, but i do think that is a very BW style of practising? Pherhaps since SC2 is still new just laddering away like crazy is a better option at this stage, at least until you get your standard play up to the same level as MVP and MKP.
Laddering like crazy is the best way to train in the when you don't have a match coming up but if you know what race/player you are playing then it makes more sense to train with a practice partner rather than jumping into a ladder game and not playing the desired race.
You must remember they are high up in the ladder ranks because they ladder a lot. Jinro would be right up there as well but he chooses to practice with teammates more.
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Champ or not, you were a joy to watch and more than enough reason to get up at that ungodly hour.
GL next season!
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On January 24 2011 18:45 betakeyless wrote:
Jinro: That's an excuse-laden interview if I've ever read one. Absolutely disgusting. Dan and Nick never pass up an opportunity to tell us how manly you are, but your weak-willed, inadequate answers further demonstrate how far their heads are up their asses.
I hope your game metamorphisizes into something worth watching (and playing). Good luck! from a former fan.
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Wow, I'm so glad this guy was banned. Hope it was IP banned...
Keep it up Jinro you are the manliness man we have ever known and that is why we call you the Gorilla Terran.
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So proud of Jinro, you're the #1 SC2 superstar. Keep working hard and don't take anything for granted.
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Having Jinro do so well is a great joy because he's always been a really nice person and he's very deserving. That aside he's also very amusing to spectate and you can really tell that he's been practicing a lot yet make game ending decisions in the heat of the moment.
Jinro how is your korean progressing?
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On January 24 2011 18:45 betakeyless wrote:
Jinro: That's an excuse-laden interview if I've ever read one. Absolutely disgusting. Dan and Nick never pass up an opportunity to tell us how manly you are, but your weak-willed, inadequate answers further demonstrate how far their heads are up their asses.
I hope your game metamorphisizes into something worth watching (and playing). Good luck! from a former fan.
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betakeyless: That's an awful post if I've ever read one. Absolutely horrible. The posters on teamliquid.net never pass up an opportunity to tell us how troll-like you are, and they're right, future posts will further demonstrate how correct they are.
I hope your comments metamorphisize into something worth reading (and...yeah). Good luck! from someone with actual meaning behind their words.
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MarineKingPrime should be destroyed. The guy is skilled like hell, his face is the kind of face that makes you want to slap him, he almost always play the same style every map with amazing success.
He kicked the great NaDa from the GSL and now he beat our own hero. Unforgivable.
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Great work Jinro and Idra. Keep up the good play and hope you feel better! Hopefully we get more foreigners into the later rounds of the GSL!
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What?
It's basically how the game is meant to be played. That's TvT. MC doesn't harass because as much because... he's protoss. Same goes for Zergs. Terran is a harassing race.
Also MKP and MVP harasses alot alot alot, so I don't really see your point.
Marine drop and banshee are both considered harass. Banshees are alot safer in the damage dealt, as if they have cloak they'll atleast cost a scan for 250ish minerals, whereas marine drops have slightly higher risk/ reward.
Considering the siege tanks in TvT, the option would be to go stim up and run in there, and basically hope that the tanks'll unsiege or something.
Jinro's tactics are by far the best in the world imho, but he might need a little practise with micro/ macro yeah. Just thinking of scouting workers sometimes slipping by marines, and macro slipping a little sometimes in the mkp series.
Either way I hope Jinro gets well soon. Having a cold in a team house must be the worst feeling in the world. There's no doubt in my mind you'll atleast get into the finals of gsl5. Jinro whaiting! ♥
They harrass sure , but much less than the normal terrans .. the last games of mvp and mkp the thing that i noticed is that both of them prefer to fast expand or even double expand first.. then they may harrass but they mainly go for the kill. Hey i´m not doubting Jinro , hes the number 3 in the race for sure and i think he is top 5 player maybe , he has a lot of builds and has always an objective in his mind , but right now MVP and MKP are crazy good . Like even Jinro said its easier to play terran right now , and that together with both of them being that good means that we will see much more Jinro , Mvp ,MKP and MC in the next final fours. They are ahead of the others , and now i understand what Idra meant to say with no Zerg deserves to be in the GSL final four. Zerg needs a new build or something that can compete with 2 barracks+ bunker or the tank+thor pushes in mid-game because what Mvp did in shakuras plateau against nestea was pretty impresive , he stayed on 2 bases for the whole game while zerg had 3 then 4 running bases and completely crushed Nestea .. that was pretty insane..
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On January 24 2011 22:20 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 21:59 Euronyme wrote:On January 24 2011 21:26 tapk69 wrote:
Jinro you are a great player , no doubt .. But if you really want to be like MVP or MKP on the ladder you should work hard on micro and tactics.. i like harrassing , but you do banshee and helion every single game .. i dont like that style , winning because a flying dark templar killed 15 scvs, that takes the beauty of the game for the spectator.. at least for me , i like to see mkp or mvp atacks , they almost never harrass , they just go there and destroy everything.. that is beautifull , its what MC does , hits that time and boom...
Good luck with the cold , the trainings and the next GSL that comes very fast.. What? It's basically how the game is meant to be played. That's TvT. MC doesn't harass because as much because... he's protoss. Same goes for Zergs. Terran is a harassing race. Either way I hope Jinro gets better soon, so that he can play without sneezing and win the GSL 5  Jinro is a far better player than me, so I am sure he is aware of this, but the only real weakness in his style I've seen, is that his macro slips while he harass. His harass on the other hand, is extremely good, possibly the best I've seen in the GSL. But the micro does mean he slips on building up econ and units while doing it. Anyway, that was critical, of one of the best players in the world, so probably wasn't worth saying Good luck, I am sure that you will do well in the next seasons too.
Its true, and part of why I want to focus on mechanics practice - Id like to be a bit faster.
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Man, i just registered to congratulate jinro. Achieving 2 GSL semifinals in a row its out of hand for many foreigners and koreans aswell, so, keep going till you crush anybody in your way to the next GSL finals.
Awakened my gf a couple of times this season with my screams of joy looking at your macthes. In fact, my gf also knows you perfectly cause of my stubborness. Altough im toss, you have a huge spanish fan of your terranz.
Keep going jinro, KEEP FIGHTING.
pd: get better of your cold soon.
pd2: sorry for my bad english.
edit: oh, i forgot to CONGRATULATE the teamliquid staff for those amazing coverages & interview transcriptions. Keep with the good work guys.
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You will always be my hero Jinro! Keep on HWAITING! ^_*
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Congrats Jinro, get well soon and keep up the good work, you've proven that you deserve to be getting as far as you are, now you just need to take it that one step further.
Good luck, you CAN do it!
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Mostly good games, entertaining to watch, even if the guy I was cheering for lost. Hopefully Ret, Huk, Haypro, and the rest will get into S-Class asap so there are better odds for our fighting foreigners to win this bad boy =p
btw quoting troll posts in order to respond to trolls is kind of doing exactly what they want you to do. Just ignore them and let the mods ban them, that's the best way to deal with trolls.
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I'm glad to see that Jinro is aware of him focusing so much on specific matchups and maps is hurting his game. Versus a player like Jinro with that mindset all you have to do is mess with his game plan and he will get thrown off and not sure how to react. I had a feeling it would bite him in the ass again when he was up versus MarineKing who is maybe the best player at picking apart the Jinro kind of player who's game is based on solid, strong play and game plan. Go Jinro throw yourself out there and mass more games instead of practicing builds.
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On January 25 2011 00:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 22:20 aebriol wrote:On January 24 2011 21:59 Euronyme wrote:On January 24 2011 21:26 tapk69 wrote:
Jinro you are a great player , no doubt .. But if you really want to be like MVP or MKP on the ladder you should work hard on micro and tactics.. i like harrassing , but you do banshee and helion every single game .. i dont like that style , winning because a flying dark templar killed 15 scvs, that takes the beauty of the game for the spectator.. at least for me , i like to see mkp or mvp atacks , they almost never harrass , they just go there and destroy everything.. that is beautifull , its what MC does , hits that time and boom...
Good luck with the cold , the trainings and the next GSL that comes very fast.. What? It's basically how the game is meant to be played. That's TvT. MC doesn't harass because as much because... he's protoss. Same goes for Zergs. Terran is a harassing race. Either way I hope Jinro gets better soon, so that he can play without sneezing and win the GSL 5 Jinro is a far better player than me, so I am sure he is aware of this, but the only real weakness in his style I've seen, is that his macro slips while he harass. His harass on the other hand, is extremely good, possibly the best I've seen in the GSL. But the micro does mean he slips on building up econ and units while doing it. Anyway, that was critical, of one of the best players in the world, so probably wasn't worth saying Good luck, I am sure that you will do well in the next seasons too. Its true, and part of why I want to focus on mechanics practice - Id like to be a bit faster.
Your a beast. Nuff' said.
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On January 25 2011 00:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 22:20 aebriol wrote:On January 24 2011 21:59 Euronyme wrote:On January 24 2011 21:26 tapk69 wrote:
Jinro you are a great player , no doubt .. But if you really want to be like MVP or MKP on the ladder you should work hard on micro and tactics.. i like harrassing , but you do banshee and helion every single game .. i dont like that style , winning because a flying dark templar killed 15 scvs, that takes the beauty of the game for the spectator.. at least for me , i like to see mkp or mvp atacks , they almost never harrass , they just go there and destroy everything.. that is beautifull , its what MC does , hits that time and boom...
Good luck with the cold , the trainings and the next GSL that comes very fast.. What? It's basically how the game is meant to be played. That's TvT. MC doesn't harass because as much because... he's protoss. Same goes for Zergs. Terran is a harassing race. Either way I hope Jinro gets better soon, so that he can play without sneezing and win the GSL 5 Jinro is a far better player than me, so I am sure he is aware of this, but the only real weakness in his style I've seen, is that his macro slips while he harass. His harass on the other hand, is extremely good, possibly the best I've seen in the GSL. But the micro does mean he slips on building up econ and units while doing it. Anyway, that was critical, of one of the best players in the world, so probably wasn't worth saying Good luck, I am sure that you will do well in the next seasons too. Its true, and part of why I want to focus on mechanics practice - Id like to be a bit faster.
Don't do that man. It wouldn't be fair to the others competing in gsl.
I LOVED the missile turrets on the first game.. gave me such nerd chills when the magic random turrets took down like 4 medivacs full of tanks and marines. This is what makes jinro the best player in the world, hands down.
He's like chuck norris. He doesn't need foxer's marine micro, or nadas crazy no-matter-what macro, he just throws up stuff in the exact spot where they will be used to their maximum potential.
Jinro whaiting!
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You did great Jinro! Can't wait to watch you play even more!
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Good job, Jinro! Was hoping to see more out of you, but there's always the future
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