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[GSL] “Hivemind” - Finals Preview and SF Recap - Page 9

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HalfMoon
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
October 02 2010 14:39 GMT
#161
Don't read further if you don't want to know the result.

FruidDealer took out Steppes of Wars
HopeTorture took out Blistering Sands

Map list: Delta Quadrant, Lost Temple, Kulas Ravine, Desert Oasis, Scrap Station, Metalopolis, Xel Naga Caverns

Here are the results of all the games they played with a few key moments I still remember a few hours later:

First game (Delta Quadrant): They spawn far away from each others. FruidDealer expands quite fast while Rainbow is in turtle mode, probably to use a similar 3 bases timing push to the one he used to destroy CheckPrime. His main problem this game was to be unable to damage even a bit FruitDealer's economy. His hellion gets damaged right outside his own ramp, some mutas luckily intercept a drop aiming for an expand, FruitDealer's economy gets way out of control. When Rainbows decides to go out, zerg's already on 5 bases (Main, natural, gold and the 2 other mains on both sides) ... Terran decides to try to snipe a hatchery sending all his marines while the bulk of his army (thors and tanks) stays in center near the xel naga tower but FruitDealer saves it with banelings and infestators. A few moments later the rest dies to a well mixed zerg army led by ultralisks. Our terran manages to get a counter attack and to destroy the gold, but at the cost of his main. GG, 1-0.

Lost Temple: Felt very similar to that first game. FruitDealer did an even better job with his mutas tho, not to damage Rainbow's economy but to intercept anything he'd throw at him and to contain him. GG, 2-0.

Kulas Ravine: An interresting build from FruitDealer, getting roaches and then taking the gold as his first expand. He built some spine crawlers in the minerals and defended the other side of the high ground with the roaches. Rainbow came with a tank drop anyway but had to delay it quite a bit to take care of the overlord giving vision the the spine crawlers and roaches. And when he finally does, at the same time a nydus worm opens in his main damaging him a lot. GG, 3-0.

Desert Oasis: Rainbow opened with mass marines followed by thors, a blind counter to mutas (his opponent likes them and Desert Oasis a very good map for those). But FruitDealer blindly countered his blind counter by going banelings + infestators, not building a single muta during the all game. His first push with marines was an epic fail and a few moments later he's left on 2 bases with almost no SCVs while the zerg is on like 5 or 6 bases. He did have some forces left, a few thors and tanks, but facing a zerg with such an economy it looked over. How he managed to come back from this, I still don't really understand but it was amazing. Even tho I was rooting for FruitDealer, this game won by Rainbow was (to me) the best of the finals. GG, 3-1.

Scrap Station: Rainbow opens with a proxy reaper while FruitDealer goes hatchery first. He had to defend with drones but once the first zerglings and queen got out he was able to avoid getting hit too hard. And a few moments later he pushed all the way back to Rainbow's main with roaches, even managing to destroy a barrack walling the ramp (a marauder and a bunker made it hard for Rainbow to repair it) and to get in the main to kill some SCVs. Being unable to take his natural Rainbow went for this island and when the mutas came he already had a few turrets and a thor here. However, FruitDealer droped a sizeable army of banelings and zerglings and Rainbow had to load his medivacs with marines to clean the mess. The fun part is he trapped himself that way, as the mutas made sure he wasn't able to leave this expand (being unable to load the marines back into the medivacs). And then came the final push from FruitDealer. GG, 4-1.

ps: Hope it's readable, as I'm not a native English speaker. Did my best.
CoffeeToss
Profile Joined August 2010
United States70 Posts
October 02 2010 15:36 GMT
#162
thank you HalfMoon I appreciate the recap as I wasn't able to see the finals. I cant wait to see game five! Ill have to catch a vod somewhere.
maxed? make cannons.
Crystal368
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden161 Posts
October 02 2010 15:58 GMT
#163
May I ask what the reason why rainbow isn't the most popular? If you wrote it in the first post, then I must've missed it...
|MKP|MMA|ThorZaIN|SjoW|SeleCT|
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
October 02 2010 16:06 GMT
#164
Oh my god he lost
Hope next time we'll see some protoss
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
October 02 2010 16:10 GMT
#165
korea in sc2 too heh
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
October 02 2010 18:36 GMT
#166
your statistical "analysis" makes me very sad D:
Meh.
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
October 02 2010 19:16 GMT
#167
On October 02 2010 23:39 HalfMoon wrote:
Don't read further if you don't want to know the result.

FruidDealer took out Steppes of Wars
HopeTorture took out Blistering Sands

Map list: Delta Quadrant, Lost Temple, Kulas Ravine, Desert Oasis, Scrap Station, Metalopolis, Xel Naga Caverns

Here are the results of all the games they played with a few key moments I still remember a few hours later:

First game (Delta Quadrant): They spawn far away from each others. FruidDealer expands quite fast while Rainbow is in turtle mode, probably to use a similar 3 bases timing push to the one he used to destroy CheckPrime. His main problem this game was to be unable to damage even a bit FruitDealer's economy. His hellion gets damaged right outside his own ramp, some mutas luckily intercept a drop aiming for an expand, FruitDealer's economy gets way out of control. When Rainbows decides to go out, zerg's already on 5 bases (Main, natural, gold and the 2 other mains on both sides) ... Terran decides to try to snipe a hatchery sending all his marines while the bulk of his army (thors and tanks) stays in center near the xel naga tower but FruitDealer saves it with banelings and infestators. A few moments later the rest dies to a well mixed zerg army led by ultralisks. Our terran manages to get a counter attack and to destroy the gold, but at the cost of his main. GG, 1-0.

Lost Temple: Felt very similar to that first game. FruitDealer did an even better job with his mutas tho, not to damage Rainbow's economy but to intercept anything he'd throw at him and to contain him. GG, 2-0.

Kulas Ravine: An interresting build from FruitDealer, getting roaches and then taking the gold as his first expand. He built some spine crawlers in the minerals and defended the other side of the high ground with the roaches. Rainbow came with a tank drop anyway but had to delay it quite a bit to take care of the overlord giving vision the the spine crawlers and roaches. And when he finally does, at the same time a nydus worm opens in his main damaging him a lot. GG, 3-0.

Desert Oasis: Rainbow opened with mass marines followed by thors, a blind counter to mutas (his opponent likes them and Desert Oasis a very good map for those). But FruitDealer blindly countered his blind counter by going banelings + infestators, not building a single muta during the all game. His first push with marines was an epic fail and a few moments later he's left on 2 bases with almost no SCVs while the zerg is on like 5 or 6 bases. He did have some forces left, a few thors and tanks, but facing a zerg with such an economy it looked over. How he managed to come back from this, I still don't really understand but it was amazing. Even tho I was rooting for FruitDealer, this game won by Rainbow was (to me) the best of the finals. GG, 3-1.

Scrap Station: Rainbow opens with a proxy reaper while FruitDealer goes hatchery first. He had to defend with drones but once the first zerglings and queen got out he was able to avoid getting hit too hard. And a few moments later he pushed all the way back to Rainbow's main with roaches, even managing to destroy a barrack walling the ramp (a marauder and a bunker made it hard for Rainbow to repair it) and to get in the main to kill some SCVs. Being unable to take his natural Rainbow went for this island and when the mutas came he already had a few turrets and a thor here. However, FruitDealer droped a sizeable army of banelings and zerglings and Rainbow had to load his medivacs with marines to clean the mess. The fun part is he trapped himself that way, as the mutas made sure he wasn't able to leave this expand (being unable to load the marines back into the medivacs). And then came the final push from FruitDealer. GG, 4-1.

ps: Hope it's readable, as I'm not a native English speaker. Did my best.


the zerg wasn't on 5 or 6 bases, he was on 3 base and terran was at 3 but got down to 2 because once fruitdealer got his gold for like 3 minutes hope torture pushed while getting his own gold and took down fruits gold but right after that fruit got another base but then natural got destroyed and etc.. so actually the terran has more income than fruit for the later part of the game thus leading to mass reinforcement and then gg
Vespasian
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania44 Posts
October 02 2010 20:40 GMT
#168
it s a joke , all people that cry terran op or zerg weak are a joke
Terrible Terrbile Damage!
Craixs
Profile Joined January 2008
Denmark170 Posts
October 02 2010 20:42 GMT
#169
Lol it is not fair to just take out cool in the racial statistisks then take out some other players to make it look good lol that is just pathedic
Entusman #9.
Minzy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia387 Posts
October 02 2010 21:42 GMT
#170
he took out both cool and rainbow, go get your eyes checked.
Huh...
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
October 03 2010 00:02 GMT
#171
Cool, cant wait for the finals!
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
onerob
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
October 03 2010 06:23 GMT
#172
I cam say as a zerg player I now have an role model
onerob
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
October 03 2010 06:28 GMT
#173
I cam say as a zerg player I now have an role model
virgol
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden61 Posts
October 03 2010 09:28 GMT
#174
Too much imbalance talk as usual, but a good read apart from that.
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
October 03 2010 15:54 GMT
#175
just saying for all the people who flood forums about imbalance, it is obvious to me that Fruit Dealer is a Savior of sorts *Pre Scandal* and was the revolution that zerg needed. Not saying it isnt completely balanced, but most of the people who complain just need to practice more and stop making excuses for themselves. Nice job fruit =)
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
October 03 2010 18:20 GMT
#176
singlehandedly, the best player ive seen play sc2 thus far(and zerg), idra got nothing on him
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
October 03 2010 20:12 GMT
#177
Nice article, just too much imbalance talk... If a zerg player wins 4 GSL's in a row, people will still cry about Terran being OP.

I would like to have seen a little more balanced finals, it was abit onesided at times in my oppinion
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 04 2010 00:18 GMT
#178
nice write-up, looking forward to finals recap
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 00:45:01
October 04 2010 00:44 GMT
#179
I hope that after Zerg is going to take GSL2 and that no protoss is going to make it to the semi once again, people will stop denying the real balance of the game.

Wayra
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
195 Posts
October 04 2010 04:04 GMT
#180
too much racial balance talk...can't you just write about the games?
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