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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 18 2010 12:41 GMT
#41
On August 18 2010 21:22 Scarecrow wrote:
13-0 with this build lol, it's ridiculous


3-0 so far
nobody bitched at me yet
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DiamondTear
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
August 18 2010 17:57 GMT
#42
The article is very absolute in terms of what you have to do to win. Especially lower level players would do well to remember that since the users won't be playing perfectly, you don't need the perfect counter either. Strong micro and remembering to make units goes a long way.
Akuemon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada151 Posts
August 18 2010 20:04 GMT
#43
I lost to this and im a zerg T.T
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
August 19 2010 05:06 GMT
#44
On August 18 2010 06:59 holy_war wrote:
I encourage people to use this build so I can proxy 2 gate and take my 5 min win. Oh how I hate the current PvP matchup. I just find it amazing that an increase of warp gate tech from 60 seconds to 140 seconds didn't end up changing shit for PvP.


If this becomes the norm for PvP, or P vs anything, Blizzard will probably nerf warpgate to more than 140 seconds.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 19 2010 05:33 GMT
#45
it's not really the norm... it can be prevented by just keeping the probe out of your base.

if i ever scout a 10 gate (i generally 12 gate so it's easy to spot the difference) i get a fast stalker and sentry to kill their scout and hold off any new probes/zealots
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
tQProbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Guam46 Posts
August 19 2010 06:53 GMT
#46
mm
sNes.
Profile Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
August 19 2010 09:59 GMT
#47
4 warp gate is extremely strong..only way to stop it as T is i guess to bunker up and 1 base for a bit then do drops..
Heroes get remembered but Legends never die
drunkensolo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany56 Posts
August 19 2010 12:41 GMT
#48
it's really really strong, thx for this nice article, got me some wins.^^
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 19 2010 14:36 GMT
#49
Liquipedia is soooooooooooo great. That being said, I don't use it nearly as much as I would like. For some reason when I am trying to practice I forget that such a great resource is out there. Will need to bookmark and drag to tabs bar to make sure I am reminded that it is there.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
August 20 2010 01:32 GMT
#50
I am a Zerg player and have been trying Protoss as well ... i will have to say this works well, i won 3/4 games ... only issue was the first try my build was slow .... you have to beat them before they get air or you are in trouble i find.
WilbertK
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands210 Posts
August 20 2010 12:32 GMT
#51
I'm confused. Protoss 4gates all the time, but aren't the Terrans and Zergs posting in this thread confusing the Korean style 4gate with the 'normal' 4gate? I'm having a hard time believing that Terrans or Zergs are having trouble getting rid of a probe in their base.

If I'm mistaken, and somehow people are using the Korean style 4gate against Terrans and Zergs, I'd like to hear how those Protosses deal with marines and zerglings.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 20 2010 14:05 GMT
#52
Yeah okay, all you Terran and Zergs, THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD 4 GATE BUILD.

At least read the thread before posting. This build is specifically PvP. I suspect it's one of the things that will be getting patched first, which means there's another Protoss nerf incoming... Oh God.
lalala
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
August 20 2010 23:36 GMT
#53
On August 20 2010 23:05 youngminii wrote:
Yeah okay, all you Terran and Zergs, THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD 4 GATE BUILD.

At least read the thread before posting. This build is specifically PvP. I suspect it's one of the things that will be getting patched first, which means there's another Protoss nerf incoming... Oh God.


It's not, the build is by no means breaking pvp. That's the difference between early beta and now.
bluehunter
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
August 21 2010 08:41 GMT
#54
lol im really new to teamliquid... this article pretty much got me a win. . my partner got disconnected from battle.net and i was stuck with 1v2 PvZZ .

Pv2Z Warpgate Rush
the only logical way to solve the candle problem is to turn the lights off... BOOM!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 21 2010 12:27 GMT
#55
On August 21 2010 08:36 Chronopolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 23:05 youngminii wrote:
Yeah okay, all you Terran and Zergs, THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD 4 GATE BUILD.

At least read the thread before posting. This build is specifically PvP. I suspect it's one of the things that will be getting patched first, which means there's another Protoss nerf incoming... Oh God.


It's not, the build is by no means breaking pvp. That's the difference between early beta and now.

Depends how you define 'breaking'. If a build that's extremely easy to memorise and almost guaranteed to defeat the opponent if he doesn't use one of the very few (abnormal) openings to beat it isn't 'breaking', I don't know what is. The fact that this works up to mid-high Diamond should be ringing alarm bells in Blizz HQ.
lalala
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 21 2010 12:52 GMT
#56
On August 21 2010 21:27 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 08:36 Chronopolis wrote:
On August 20 2010 23:05 youngminii wrote:
Yeah okay, all you Terran and Zergs, THIS IS NOT THE STANDARD 4 GATE BUILD.

At least read the thread before posting. This build is specifically PvP. I suspect it's one of the things that will be getting patched first, which means there's another Protoss nerf incoming... Oh God.


It's not, the build is by no means breaking pvp. That's the difference between early beta and now.

Depends how you define 'breaking'. If a build that's extremely easy to memorise and almost guaranteed to defeat the opponent if he doesn't use one of the very few (abnormal) openings to beat it isn't 'breaking', I don't know what is. The fact that this works up to mid-high Diamond should be ringing alarm bells in Blizz HQ.

But it's perfectly defendable... it's a valid build, sure - but the better player invariably wins at the very top. I mean, check out Socke vs Huk G1 where Socke tries to do it to Huk.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 22 2010 04:59 GMT
#57
Huk isn't mid-high Diamond, he's a pro, of course it wouldn't work on him.
lalala
Ondoval
Profile Joined August 2010
France15 Posts
August 22 2010 09:25 GMT
#58
Thanks a lot !
Good article , in platinium, even i don't yet use this build order properly it works fine.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 23 2010 00:57 GMT
#59
Occasionaly this build works versus zerg, assuming he isn't spreading creep well and is FEing/has no def units.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
_SkY
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States50 Posts
August 23 2010 01:35 GMT
#60
This is a nice article! I like how it focused on a legitimate build that hasn't been discussed much lately, as well as that it really highlights how Liquipedia works (or can work, if used properly). I've been around TeamLiquid for a few months now between being a lurker and having a registered account, and I can honestly say that I've only used it a couple of times.

Liquipedia is a wonderful idea and I should definitely check it out more often as I am a low-ranked (i.e. bottom of my division) and relatively new Platinum league player, and could really stand to gain from the knowledge harbored there. However, I'm not really sure how to start, as there is so much information to be consumed. Do people that use it frequently just search for specific subjects, or simply thumb through pages somewhat randomly? I know it is a pretty silly question, but I'm just not sure where to begin. Thanks!

Great article, and please keep them coming!
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