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[T] DA Office's blog post on match fixing scandal - Page 6

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 11 2010 14:21 GMT
#101

It's a South Korean investigation.


lol? I'm hoping this was a joke. I hope you're not seriously implying that Korea's "investigations" aren't worth anything due to whatever reasons, because that's the most ridiculous things I've ever seen someone say in order to support their claim.

Don't make offensive statements like that. What in the world -_-
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 11 2010 14:57 GMT
#102
On June 11 2010 23:21 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +

It's a South Korean investigation.


lol? I'm hoping this was a joke. I hope you're not seriously implying that Korea's "investigations" aren't worth anything due to whatever reasons, because that's the most ridiculous things I've ever seen someone say in order to support their claim.

Don't make offensive statements like that. What in the world -_-


i believe all he was saying is that korea as a whole has vested interest in only releasing as little information as they can to appease the masses without ruining the credibility of the sport, and if that means turning their head to alot of crimes, i'm certain they are capable of that for the greater good of the country
why so 진지해?
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
June 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#103
i knew it was suspicious when gogo.gsp lost most of the mathces
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33486 Posts
June 11 2010 22:59 GMT
#104
On June 11 2010 23:57 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 23:21 Milkis wrote:

It's a South Korean investigation.


lol? I'm hoping this was a joke. I hope you're not seriously implying that Korea's "investigations" aren't worth anything due to whatever reasons, because that's the most ridiculous things I've ever seen someone say in order to support their claim.

Don't make offensive statements like that. What in the world -_-


i believe all he was saying is that korea as a whole has vested interest in only releasing as little information as they can to appease the masses without ruining the credibility of the sport, and if that means turning their head to alot of crimes, i'm certain they are capable of that for the greater good of the country


shit, since when were you so soft spoken and conciliatory
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
boezou
Profile Joined January 2009
United States56 Posts
June 12 2010 00:46 GMT
#105
On June 09 2010 16:15 Disastorm wrote:
Wow... so looks like Savior wasn't lying when he said he had nothing to do with the match fixing other than brokering money between people. Its so sad that he was the face of the whole incident when he probably had the least to do with it out of all the people involved.

"player hesitantly acted as a broker." They even said hesitantly (in korean i guess). Can you guys imagine the situation? Savior probably didn't think match fixing was a good idea but some people probably gave him money and said pass it on to his teammate. How many of you would actually have reported your fellow teammate for throwing a match or would you just give him the money and want to have nothing further to do with it? IMO this information completely redeems Savior in my eyes.

"is said to have received a lot of offers for match fixing." and apparently rejected them all. I think Savior almost sounds like a good guy now when compared to the other match fixers. Its dissapointing that he had to be banned from Kespa.



Sorry, this may be an uninformed question, but who was the teammate Savior "hesitantly acted as a broker" for? I don't remember any other CJ players on the match fixing players list.
Vathus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-12 01:18:06
June 12 2010 01:13 GMT
#106
On June 12 2010 09:46 boezou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 16:15 Disastorm wrote:
Wow... so looks like Savior wasn't lying when he said he had nothing to do with the match fixing other than brokering money between people. Its so sad that he was the face of the whole incident when he probably had the least to do with it out of all the people involved.

"player hesitantly acted as a broker." They even said hesitantly (in korean i guess). Can you guys imagine the situation? Savior probably didn't think match fixing was a good idea but some people probably gave him money and said pass it on to his teammate. How many of you would actually have reported your fellow teammate for throwing a match or would you just give him the money and want to have nothing further to do with it? IMO this information completely redeems Savior in my eyes.

"is said to have received a lot of offers for match fixing." and apparently rejected them all. I think Savior almost sounds like a good guy now when compared to the other match fixers. Its dissapointing that he had to be banned from Kespa.



Sorry, this may be an uninformed question, but who was the teammate Savior "hesitantly acted as a broker" for? I don't remember any other CJ players on the match fixing players list.


The article never says anything about a teammate it just says "a fellow gamer" and i'm pretty sure it's talking about hwasin? don't know for sure though :S
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33486 Posts
June 12 2010 02:53 GMT
#107
On June 11 2010 23:21 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +

It's a South Korean investigation.


lol? I'm hoping this was a joke. I hope you're not seriously implying that Korea's "investigations" aren't worth anything due to whatever reasons, because that's the most ridiculous things I've ever seen someone say in order to support their claim.

Don't make offensive statements like that. What in the world -_-


like rekrul, I believe it's more of a case of "the police are corrupt and ineffective" vs "korea is corrupt and ineffective"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-12 05:02:10
June 12 2010 05:01 GMT
#108
On June 09 2010 16:17 Milkis wrote:...
Characteristic of the Case
...
However, the case where the players would directly interfere with the matches to fix the matches happened for the first time in Korea (T/N: It's the first case in Korea, OR Korea is the first place it has happened. It's likely the latter interpretation)
...

I think you mean former interpretation, not latter. I'm basing this on the sentence before the translator note: you said that it happened for the first time in Korea which is analogous to the first case in Korea.

Thank you for translating!
Edit: Formating
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
June 13 2010 09:20 GMT
#109
so tedster, you seem pretty confident that savior was basically being some bookie's errand boy and are following this. who's to say he didn't get money, but got pressured by gang-related people so he would stay involved as a valuable connection? by the same token, basically any and all of these people (though i doubt all obv) could be pressured, and while they still did illegal shit, it's a very different scenario when people who will kill you if you don't pay them are demanding you do so.

just playing devil's advocate.
FVV190
Profile Joined December 2009
China15 Posts
June 13 2010 13:13 GMT
#110
hi. this post was translated into chinese and posted on
http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-15946-1-1.html
by Terri (wfbrood.terr) and me (wfbrood.FVV190).

Nice post, through a bit fuzzy to understand.
Thanks very much for translating it and sorry for the late reply.
FVV190 from wfbrood
mkchoi0801
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
June 13 2010 23:15 GMT
#111
On June 11 2010 11:26 dogabutila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 06:43 rockon1215 wrote:
On June 11 2010 05:09 Roffles wrote:
On June 11 2010 04:39 gergut.com wrote:
"The third method is to pretend to be ignorant of the opponent's strategy. The biggest example was a Zerg versus Protoss match where the Zerg player continued to produce Mutalisks even after realizing his opponent was massing corsairs."

So far we don't know the names of any toss involved? Because they are refeering to a speciifc game aren't they? So, who is it?

That game you quoted was more than likely Best vs Type-B on Outsider, where Type-B had like at least 6 gas, yet still lost to Best's Sair/Reaver. The worst part about it was that Type-B just screwed around, threw away mutas, then suicided into mass sairs with all his mutas later on.
If I recall, Type-B won the previous game and next game in that bo3 and went on to advance farther in that OSL.

What's the point of throwing a game if you're still going to win the series?


They arnt necessarily betting on the series, just the individual games. That or they need him to lose one game to break 3-0 bets. etc.


The thing with this logic is that, Type-B would have had to win game 3, which he had no control over. Saying that he blew game 2 to break 3-0 bet seems a little far-fetched.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
June 14 2010 08:51 GMT
#112
On June 14 2010 08:15 mkchoi0801 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 11:26 dogabutila wrote:
On June 11 2010 06:43 rockon1215 wrote:
On June 11 2010 05:09 Roffles wrote:
On June 11 2010 04:39 gergut.com wrote:
"The third method is to pretend to be ignorant of the opponent's strategy. The biggest example was a Zerg versus Protoss match where the Zerg player continued to produce Mutalisks even after realizing his opponent was massing corsairs."

So far we don't know the names of any toss involved? Because they are refeering to a speciifc game aren't they? So, who is it?

That game you quoted was more than likely Best vs Type-B on Outsider, where Type-B had like at least 6 gas, yet still lost to Best's Sair/Reaver. The worst part about it was that Type-B just screwed around, threw away mutas, then suicided into mass sairs with all his mutas later on.
If I recall, Type-B won the previous game and next game in that bo3 and went on to advance farther in that OSL.

What's the point of throwing a game if you're still going to win the series?


They arnt necessarily betting on the series, just the individual games. That or they need him to lose one game to break 3-0 bets. etc.


The thing with this logic is that, Type-B would have had to win game 3, which he had no control over. Saying that he blew game 2 to break 3-0 bet seems a little far-fetched.


maybe the other dude was paid off. who the fuck knows. i am so paranoid now. to think that i shook savior's hand and was all over his dick at blizzcon makes me mad now. fuck em all. lock em all up and throw away the key. if your willing to throw a game of starcraft just think what else they would be willing to do. what scums of the earth!
TDC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
June 14 2010 12:43 GMT
#113
I wonder how they got caught in the first place..
if you do something like situation two( build order leak)
it'll be pretty hard to tell you cheated
Top 25 master league Toss http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1253149/TDC
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 14 2010 18:59 GMT
#114
On June 13 2010 22:13 FVV190 wrote:
hi. this post was translated into chinese and posted on
http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-15946-1-1.html
by Terri (wfbrood.terr) and me (wfbrood.FVV190).

Nice post, through a bit fuzzy to understand.
Thanks very much for translating it and sorry for the late reply.


Thanks, but could you rehost the images onto another site if possible? The images are on my webserver so I rather not have it use up too much bandwidth.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
June 17 2010 04:05 GMT
#115
wow I remember that game the screenshot was taken from
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 11:03:58
June 18 2010 11:03 GMT
#116
On June 17 2010 13:05 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
wow I remember that game the screenshot was taken from


Could someone please post a link to the match? Or is that against the rules?
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-20 01:28:11
June 20 2010 01:25 GMT
#117
On June 18 2010 20:03 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2010 13:05 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
wow I remember that game the screenshot was taken from


Could someone please post a link to the match? Or is that against the rules?

I think KeSPA and other companies want all this information confidential, sorry =O
EDIT: I don't think this is against the rules, as the information is already from the screenshot and other public info, not from my own knowledge.
It was STX vs KT, and the popular zerg known for matchfixing was Luxury.
Find all Terran games played on Tornado in the proleague that Lux played, and you'll find it soon enough.
EDIT: nvm im an idiot, everyone knows about this already
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
boezou
Profile Joined January 2009
United States56 Posts
June 24 2010 17:35 GMT
#118
[QUOTE]On June 20 2010 10:25 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
[QUOTE] EDIT: nvm im an idiot, everyone knows about this already
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya_EqIZ8RRY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya_EqIZ8RRY[/url][/QUOTE]

It's really interesting to watch their expressions knowing that the match was fixed. Just trying to read what might have been going through their heads at the time.
aes.goa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2 Posts
June 25 2010 23:29 GMT
#119
Great article. Thanks.
That is not dead which can eternal lie; And with strange aeons even death may die.
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
June 26 2010 00:48 GMT
#120
Thanks for the article. :'( Sad day for fans
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