EPT[T] DA Office's blog post on match fixing scandal - Page 4
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
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Milkis
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On June 10 2010 03:40 Disastorm wrote: According to the article, he "has never received money". Like I said before, he probably wasn't an officially employed broker, most likely his game throwing friend just asked him to get the money for him. Sorry, that was my mistake. He "never received money for match fixing", but doesn't imply that he has "never received money" period. I noticed my wording was a bit confusing and I fixed it. Sorry for the confusion. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
Also, I would be interested to see if there were any games that were suppose to be thrown but the progammer who was suppose to lose, wins.. Would he get kicked out of the "betting circle"..? | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
On June 10 2010 04:18 NuKedUFirst wrote: Also, I would be interested to see if there were any games that were suppose to be thrown but the progammer who was suppose to lose, wins.. Would he get kicked out of the "betting circle"..? Well, in other sports where the Mafia would be involved, that player would lose their kneecaps. Wait, didn't Savior have surgury for knee problems? WAITWAT O SHI-- | ||
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Vathus
Canada404 Posts
Furthermore, there was a broker that has blackmailed a progamer saying that he will reveal the progamer's participation in match fixing. anyone know who the blackmailed progamer was?Also nice to hear that a lot of the things said about savior were misunderstandings and rumors. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:52 Skillz_Man wrote: Wow, maybe this was very obvious but this is probably why they changed the way the PL lineups work and the games aren't pre selected therefore it makes it harder to be on matches. Betting to lose individual leagues is harsh though. It is. It's not "probably." That was the reason. | ||
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minus_human
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:55 Milkis wrote: Sorry, that was my mistake. He "never received money for match fixing", but doesn't imply that he has "never received money" period. I noticed my wording was a bit confusing and I fixed it. Sorry for the confusion. Oh ok thanks, so I guess were back to the beginning with we don't know if he was paid or not then. Furthermore, there was a broker that has blackmailed a progamer saying that he will reveal the progamer's participation in match fixing. This is interesting since the only reason for blackmail would be if the "progamer" in question had wanted to do something like either stop throwing matches or report them. Who knows maybe this progamer was even Savior and maybe after his initial involvement he was forced to continue and become a broker. Of course this could be anyone, but its unfortunate for whoever it was because this person probably realized his mistake and wanted to quit but was forced to continue. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Chef
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I think I'll wait for more details before deciding what I think, but really any amount of involvement doesn't look good for sAviOr. A strong sense of morality and duty is something star players need to embody. + Show Spoiler + This kind of feels like map hacker witch hunts... Players make mistakes, especially when they're under a lot of pressure. Nony didn't forget storm on purpose. Lots of people who are really good have accidentally built two of the same tech building in the odd game. The evidence isn't going to come from the game, it's going to come from records of money transfer. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:52 Skillz_Man wrote: Wow, maybe this was very obvious but this is probably why they changed the way the PL lineups work and the games aren't pre selected therefore it makes it harder to be on matches. Betting to lose individual leagues is harsh though. They've already said this was it. On June 10 2010 07:14 Jibba wrote: As a former sAviOr groupie, I find it hard to believe he wasn't throwing games now. 1. He's involved in some capacity with match fixing and betting 2. His performance drops completely off the map, and for a time consistently makes bad decisions or forgets Adrenaline. It's possible he was only a broker and his game slipped only by coincidence, but I don't buy it. It's possible that he was throwing matches (considering his involvement in brokering already), but they couldn't prove it enough to charge it, just like its almost a certainty that there were more than 11 players involved and more than 12 total matches thrown and that the money earned from all of this was a lot more than the few hundred dollars claimed but as it stands this is what they could prove enough to charge. | ||
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
On June 10 2010 04:43 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Well, in other sports where the Mafia would be involved, that player would lose their kneecaps. Wait, didn't Savior have surgury for knee problems? WAITWAT O SHI-- :O! Only problem is knees dont do much for Savior as athletes lol | ||
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
Cool, hip, sharp and passionate. AKA Badass. Thanks for the translation. This whole case is really culturally revealing, imo. | ||
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:14 Jibba wrote: As a former sAviOr groupie, I find it hard to believe he wasn't throwing games now. 1. He's involved in some capacity with match fixing and betting 2. His performance drops completely off the map, and for a time consistently makes bad decisions or forgets Adrenaline. It's possible he was only a broker and his game slipped only by coincidence, but I don't buy it. Yes because your hunch is a lot more informative than an investigation. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:15 Varbind wrote: Agreed, if he got paid to move the money then ban him, that is obvious which is why I listed my assumptions in the post. I think it is likely that he got paid, thus the charges. However I do not think it beyond the realm of possibility that he did not get paid. I was just trying to address that possibility r u stupid | ||
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bobhund
Sweden364 Posts
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
I still love my man Savior. Many of you admired him for obvious reasons on his rise to fame and even his fall, anyone who watched BW more than 3 years ago does. After how much I cheer for him I am going to give him the full benefit of the doubt. I am not defending his actions even IF he did actually throw games, and definitely not corrupting and leading others into it. But it's easy to judge from so far away. You really don't know what he was going through at this time in his life, no one really does. Maybe he was kinda forced into this by the goons of the pay sites once he was in a little involved or maybe he was just totally blinded by the money. The life of a pro-gamer isn't exactly normal on the way up, it's hard to know where he was coming from. Everyone's human and obviously even our Zerg god, I'll still love Savior even though I am obviously a minority. Having said that the scandal is truly disgusting, I will still love and watch BW for as long as possible though. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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