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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 22:32 GMT
#755
FYI Foolishness has been trying to get me to back off of BC. This leads me to believe either BC and Foolishness are both Mafia, neither are mafia, or BC alone is mafia. I can't see why Foolishness would try to break up a fight between BC and I if he was mafia and BC wasn't. I do think I remember L being suspicious of Foolishness at one point. That's a really good clue that BC has bolded but I continue to be suspicious of some of his actions this game, and I don't think BC can be an innocent while Foolishness is guilty. Saccing to re-establish cred? I dunno, I'm somewhat baffled this game to be honest. I think I have redtooth caught and a bunch of shit happens and I lose focus and that seems to be happening to everyone.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 22:56 GMT
#757
On July 10 2009 07:53 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I think I have redtooth caught and a bunch of shit happens and I lose focus and that seems to be happening to everyone.
seriously... seriously? how many people have you accused of being mafia? drop the suspicions on me already. nobody believes you because everybody sees how fucking illogical you are. i honestly believe you are a trolling mafia trying to rile shit up. no sense of logic or whatsoever.

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
That's a really good clue that BC has bolded but I continue to be suspicious of some of his actions this game, and I don't think BC can be an innocent while Foolishness is guilty. Saccing to re-establish cred?
so wait. if BC sacrifices foolishness to re-establish cred it is iffy. but if i get truth killed i'm a mafia?

btw i just want to quote a PM from Pyrr after i offered him my bet again:
Show nested quote +
I don't have any end to a bargain that I haven't agreed to. You're just making me more and more suspicious now by trying to intimidate me from going after you rather than using, you know, logic and persuasion.
do you not see my other posts using, you know, logic and persuasion? and well if i make you more suspicious then TAKE THE FUCKING BET MORON. but wait. you're not even voting for me in the voting thread? how stupid can you get?

here are the two scenarios that we are presented with:
- you're an idiot townie who think's he's good but is simply a retard
- you're a trolling mafia who just wants to go around starting fights and getting stuff off topic and burying good posts with your useless spam

regardless, i'm going to toil through sweat, blood, and tears to get you lynched
then maybe this game would get a little bit more enjoyable

Dude, you didn't kill TB, tb was already gonna die when you changed.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:07 GMT
#761
On July 10 2009 08:03 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 07:56 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Dude, you didn't kill TB, tb was already gonna die when you changed.


Pyrry you're wrong. The vote was tied at 12-12. Then redtooth changed to abstain, putting TB in the lead.

Alright, I checked that again and you're right. Sorry.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:10 GMT
#763
On July 10 2009 08:08 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 07:56 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 10 2009 07:53 redtooth wrote:
On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I think I have redtooth caught and a bunch of shit happens and I lose focus and that seems to be happening to everyone.
seriously... seriously? how many people have you accused of being mafia? drop the suspicions on me already. nobody believes you because everybody sees how fucking illogical you are. i honestly believe you are a trolling mafia trying to rile shit up. no sense of logic or whatsoever.

On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
That's a really good clue that BC has bolded but I continue to be suspicious of some of his actions this game, and I don't think BC can be an innocent while Foolishness is guilty. Saccing to re-establish cred?
so wait. if BC sacrifices foolishness to re-establish cred it is iffy. but if i get truth killed i'm a mafia?

btw i just want to quote a PM from Pyrr after i offered him my bet again:
I don't have any end to a bargain that I haven't agreed to. You're just making me more and more suspicious now by trying to intimidate me from going after you rather than using, you know, logic and persuasion.
do you not see my other posts using, you know, logic and persuasion? and well if i make you more suspicious then TAKE THE FUCKING BET MORON. but wait. you're not even voting for me in the voting thread? how stupid can you get?

here are the two scenarios that we are presented with:
- you're an idiot townie who think's he's good but is simply a retard
- you're a trolling mafia who just wants to go around starting fights and getting stuff off topic and burying good posts with your useless spam

regardless, i'm going to toil through sweat, blood, and tears to get you lynched
then maybe this game would get a little bit more enjoyable

Dude, you didn't kill TB, tb was already gonna die when you changed.
count the votes up to when i switched moron. it was 12-12 when i abstained and went straight to sleep. that made the vote 12-11. for all intents and purposes, unless two people voted ydg behind me I killed TB.

Well it was 12-12 but the tie breaker would have killed TruthBringer since ydg got to 12 last. For some reason I thought it was less close, I wish people would stop editing vote counts and just post new ones so you can tell what votes they cover.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:21 GMT
#766
On July 10 2009 08:14 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 08:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 10 2009 08:08 redtooth wrote:
On July 10 2009 07:56 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 10 2009 07:53 redtooth wrote:
On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I think I have redtooth caught and a bunch of shit happens and I lose focus and that seems to be happening to everyone.
seriously... seriously? how many people have you accused of being mafia? drop the suspicions on me already. nobody believes you because everybody sees how fucking illogical you are. i honestly believe you are a trolling mafia trying to rile shit up. no sense of logic or whatsoever.

On July 10 2009 07:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
That's a really good clue that BC has bolded but I continue to be suspicious of some of his actions this game, and I don't think BC can be an innocent while Foolishness is guilty. Saccing to re-establish cred?
so wait. if BC sacrifices foolishness to re-establish cred it is iffy. but if i get truth killed i'm a mafia?

btw i just want to quote a PM from Pyrr after i offered him my bet again:
I don't have any end to a bargain that I haven't agreed to. You're just making me more and more suspicious now by trying to intimidate me from going after you rather than using, you know, logic and persuasion.
do you not see my other posts using, you know, logic and persuasion? and well if i make you more suspicious then TAKE THE FUCKING BET MORON. but wait. you're not even voting for me in the voting thread? how stupid can you get?

here are the two scenarios that we are presented with:
- you're an idiot townie who think's he's good but is simply a retard
- you're a trolling mafia who just wants to go around starting fights and getting stuff off topic and burying good posts with your useless spam

regardless, i'm going to toil through sweat, blood, and tears to get you lynched
then maybe this game would get a little bit more enjoyable

Dude, you didn't kill TB, tb was already gonna die when you changed.
count the votes up to when i switched moron. it was 12-12 when i abstained and went straight to sleep. that made the vote 12-11. for all intents and purposes, unless two people voted ydg behind me I killed TB.

Well it was 12-12 but the tie breaker would have killed TruthBringer since ydg got to 12 last. For some reason I thought it was less close, I wish people would stop editing vote counts and just post new ones so you can tell what votes they cover.
and you knew exactly how the tiebreaker worked? seriously, how many people in the game knew for sure how that worked? still want to push the idea you "got me in a trap" and that i'm a surefire "idiot pledge"?

Yes I know how the tiebreaker works, no I'm not pushing the idea I have you in a trap or that you are an idiot pledge.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:25 GMT
#767
On ecomania: ya he's either mafia or lazy noob. I'd feel a lot more confident if we could find some clues on him to seal the deal, but I haven't been able to find any except fox glove seeds being vaguely ecologically related (think BC posted that first). Given the two deaths we've seen so far, clues are a lot more straight forward than that. I'll sweep the day posts again and post what I find.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:32 GMT
#768
Ecomania: "An obsolete term for a syndrome of domineering behaviour at home and humility toward persons in authority."

I didn't see anything about that in any day post, maybe someone else can see it. I think someone mentioned pollution at one point but I didn't see anything about that.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 09 2009 23:37 GMT
#769
@ redtooth and foolishness: alright maybe, maybe I made a mistake, (and in a sense I didn't because TB was winning the tiebreaker) but I think it's fucked up you're calling me useless with all the effort I'm putting into this. I found TB trying to out the priests, and maybe I'm a bit distracted with BC making shit up and now redtooth trying to kill me as a personal vendetta but I'm still trying to right the ship here.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 00:17 GMT
#776
Lightbulbs coming out of skin? Maybe if that mafia is a Ditto or something. Did you have someone in mind with that?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 00:31 GMT
#779
On July 10 2009 09:26 ydg wrote:
Nah I don't have anyone in mind, but what did you think of when he said bulbs?
It's possible it's some light man or something strange like that, given that Truthbringer is a skeleton.

well I have an idea but I don't want Foolishness angry at me again
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 00:45 GMT
#783
On July 10 2009 09:41 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 09:14 ydg wrote:
Mr Julia had been given a strict set of instructions to follow, and the first required him to wait until exactly 3:14am. He sat outside motionless as the fog rolled over him. He knew his skin was beginning to form bulbs as he was not familiar with these conditions. As predicted, vx70GTOJudgexv left the building at the precise time. vx70GTOJudgexv was a strong man in the town, arguably the strongest in all of Liquiville. Mr Julia walked up behind him and put his military training to good use – hitting vx70GTOJudgexv in the exact position to cause him to collapse to the ground. However as vx70GTOJudgexv fell he reached to Mr Julia’s face and grabbed a leather strip covering his face revealing a whole where his nose should have been, and the scars of countless surgeries. The bulbs on Mr Julia’s skin began to change to a chilling shade of yellow as he realised he did not have much time left. He picked up vx70GTOJudgexv and ran towards the cheese factory as fast and he could and dumped him inside.


"bulb" what an interesting word. When I first read this, I thought like pustules and those nasty pus-filled things. But then I looked it up:


Interesting, I think of a bulbasaur. Is anyone into Pokemon?

I was joking about Ditto. You think this guy is evolving into bulbasaur or something? I think it's a skin condition, like sensitivity to light or something.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 02:53 GMT
#796
Lucas stop trolling its not helping anything.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 05:25 GMT
#805
This is why you don't troll.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 05:27 GMT
#806
I dunno why I'm violating that rule all over the place this game. I suppose trolls are a special case but...
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 07:01 GMT
#808
On July 10 2009 15:49 Malongo wrote:
After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place.
+ Show Spoiler +

The Laughter:
Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.

YDGs profile:
"The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.

so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 07:55 GMT
#811
On July 10 2009 16:20 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2009 16:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 10 2009 15:49 Malongo wrote:
After reading this thread about 10 times i have to say that the theory of a mafia sacrifice in the first lynch (to save truthbringer) is looking quite solid. YDG has not being really helpful and all cases make him look as a bad townie at best. Now we can add a pretty good clue against him (imo). So id like to know what does the town think about lynching YDG in first place.
+ Show Spoiler +

The Laughter:
Caller and So no fek were returning from their night class on nautical warfare, but knowing there were Mafia about they decided to take the back route to their home. While walking through the last and only park on their journey home they heard a strange but faint laughter. A twig behind them snapped. They panicked- Caller turned and ran as fast as he could, while So no fek was petrified and could not move. The Mafioso stepped forward and ensured that So no fek would no longer be able to move. As he was running, Caller heard the laughter again, but more clearer. He looked up into the trees and a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree, but stumbled on the landing and fell over. To Callers’s surprise he burst out laughing. Not willing to take a chance, Caller backed away but his leg got caught in a trap and was hoisted into the air helpless. The Mafioso stood up walked over to Caller and tied his hands up with a bomb. Standing just outside of the blastzone, the Mafioso and Caller stared into each other’s eyes as Caller’s death was literally counting down. The blast destroyed Caller. The morning rooster crowed, and both Mafioso knew that So no fek still had to be dealt with. Upon checking his wallet they established his ironic death by making So no fek sink in the harbour.

YDGs profile:
"The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mignon_McLaughlin Note that her quotes are quite ironic.

so in this idea, YDG would be a pledge they were trying to sacrifice instead of truthbringer?

Yes. The main reason behind this is the way the voting went under L/BCs candidates. Im very suspicious of BCs behaviour this game since he has made some really bad calls in my book (like switching at last time from his "lynch-list" to lynch MBH// fighting L and me because i supported him// Only 2 real emperor campaigns// truthbringers vote// random very bad clues// switching from araav to ydgs to lynch// calling for this double lynch without saying a word// other bad calls). However i dont have the guts to call to lynch him yet as if he is town sided we would be losing 2 DLs.


ya i dunno, i know he's doing stuff out of the ordinary but no one seems to agree with me
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 07:56:51
July 10 2009 07:56 GMT
#812
Well I said I was going to look over the whole thread again to avoid getting caught up in the flavor of the day.

Here's what I've got:

Kuja900

BEHAVIOR

HAS YET TO POST IN THE THREAD. I'm sure any player that cared about the town would be able to do something productive by now.

CLUES

Why waste my time making a shitload of new analysis when other players have already done it and been buried by trolls and misinformation?

On July 06 2009 08:18 L wrote:
Pretty sure Kuja900 and TruthBringer are mafia.

Kuja links up with explosives; his mybrute is the only one listed with a bomb, and the only mention of explosives in general.

TruthBringer's skeleton links up with the lead filled head, the reference to a lack of organic material in the skull and the arrogant walk.

Pretty simple and it fits with their activity in the thread.


Oh ho! So the same thinking that led L to our successful bagging of TruthBringer led him to Kuja. Biggest difference between the two probably being that TruthBringer posted obvious mafia tells while Kuja didn't post jack shit.

On July 06 2009 08:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:
yeah kuja hasn't posted at all ..


Again from L:

"clues link to Kuja900.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Kuja900

Note how there's very little solid information directly related to the character besides for his love of explosives. He's the only one I have linked to explosives via his mybrute (I checked all of the one listed in profiles, as of right now, his is the only one with a bomb). He also seems to be fairly quick, which his character is."

ydg:
"they're just voting for me (like chaoser, Kuja, scara) out of nowhere."

Kuja900's one of the players that voted after TruthBringer in quick succession for YDG. (thanks, Foolishness)

On July 10 2009 04:08 redtooth wrote:
- The other reference to bombs is in Kuja900 where his mybrute has the ability to use bombs. Also, Kuja is a character from Final Fantasy IX and is stated to "dress very strangely". He could be the one that is "strangely garbed" with an obsession for bombs.
Show nested quote +
REFUTATIONS TO THE ABOVE ARGUMENTS - As the main villain, I find it odd for him not to stick that landing after he glided down from the trees. Also, from what I read in the wiki, laughing doesn't seem to be a strong point for him with him being emo and all.


And right after that is me muddying things up by calling out BC - at which point Kuja hasn't been mentioned since. My apologies.

Why didn't I get on Kuja earlier? Well, I figured the bombs were just about the suicide bomber. Yet, Scamp is dead and yet the next mafia kill is another bomb-related one. I think that's Plexa trying to tell us something.

From Day 3: "a curiously clothed man glided down from the tree"

Here's Kuja floating from a tree:


Now there's the matter of the refutation dutifully provided by my new friend (sorry :/) redtooth. Well, given TruthBringer's clues, it's clear that Plexa is coming at each mafia from several different angles instead of just one aspect. And I think this is where the quote in Kuja's profile comes in:

"On March 27 2009 12:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
kuja pushes to the front
and says "fakesteve, to be blunt
it's doubtful at most
that you wrote that post"
fakesteve replied, "whatever, cunt""

This is attempting to be a limerick, but the meter and number of syllables is clumsily off in places. First line should be 8 or 9 syllables but is 7. Same with second line. Meter is off, too. Most limericks, including this one are meant to be humorously low-key, like how the bomber mafia acts.

CONCLUSION

It's not like we're gonna lose a good player because this guy hasn't posted and he bandwagoned away from TruthBringer. And we know it's not a mafia plant suspect since L first caught this.

Edit to fix color tag
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 16:39 GMT
#821
On July 10 2009 21:35 Lenwe wrote:
I advocate to lynch Falcynn as well (besides Kuja). Besides the earlier clues that have been linked to him he has an old blog about his fear of black widows (The erratic fear of spiders mentioned in the first post).

He voted BC (whom I still don't trust, sorry) and YDG.

Also, while he has been very active in the previous mafia's I played with him (making blogs etc.) he has hardly posted in this one, only posts explaining his inactivity.

Good catch, I haven't been looking at blogs but his has spiders (haven't seen a link to that for anyone else) and this acid trip of a video:

Also has a vampire reference which is part of what made me suspicious of BC. L was after him and this guy could link to a number of mafia characters I bet one of them has to be true, but the spider especially and then his triple post of a stumbling defense really clinch it for me.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 16:55 GMT
#826
On July 11 2009 01:47 Falcynn wrote:
Just curious, what link to spiders are you guys talking about? I only recall in the first day post that the former Emperor's uncle had an erratic fear of spiders, not exactly linking to a mafioso.

its a weird phrase to use for no reason, doesn't have to directly describe a mafioso to be a clue
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 10 2009 17:05 GMT
#829
I want to stress why the vampire thing in Falcynn's blog is so important. The vampire stuff would fit with the blood draining parts, and the skin reaction to being outside (seems Mr Julia can't stay outside long), and the blood lust episodes that could lead to the other mafia giving knowing looks and the loss of control / memory. Vampires are also strong like Mr. Julia and it could explain how he found Plexa in hiding (by smelling the blood) and why there was fresh blood on the ground.
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