Mafia VIII [GG]

On May 16 2009 12:50 LucasWoJ wrote:
Ah, mendacious dragon "staedtler" finally printer copy prolific rhapsody of water. Slim.

On May 16 2009 12:55 LucasWoJ wrote:
Are we allowed to play the game without ever looking at our role, or would that be against the spirit of the game as well?

On May 16 2009 14:04 Caller wrote:
Oh and one more thing:

From my experience last game, I think rather than try and lynch off day one clues, we should use day one clues as a confirmation point for any potential suspects from Day 2 and onwards clues, like I did with 3clipse at the last moment.

On May 17 2009 01:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:


L BRAH, YOU AINT COUNTING IN MEDIC PROTECTION AND VETS.

On May 16 2009 22:53 Showtime! wrote:
Cause and effect my friend!

There's a reason behind everything. To the naked eye some of the stuff I do might look sloppy, but I assure you there is a rational explanation for what I do.

I was going to make a blog about my posting behaviour between every game so players could get further insight into what I was thinking and how I pulled other players strings. Then I realized it would take far too long unless I kept an up-to-date dairy of every move I made.

Make no mistake, in a Mayor role there will be no confusion.

As I mentioned before, the last post was with regards to my skills I used from previous games. My strengths far outweigh any weakness I may have. Plus the Pardoner is there for a reason. Heck you even said it yourself.

On May 17 2009 01:52 LucasWoJ wrote:
infundumbilum

On May 17 2009 05:39 L wrote:
Yes there is. Voting in a townie mayor gives us a 25% shot at killing a mafia, and voting in a mafia pardoner sets us back an entire day, which is essentially 3 extra town deaths.

Either way, at this point a few people have played their poker and sent tells as to what their roles are.

On May 17 2009 06:03 Caller wrote:
that game was Ace's and that pardon was mine, infundibulum. And that was part of a grand convoluted strategy which didn't work b/c mafias had managed to synchronize their hits -_-

On May 17 2009 06:22 L wrote:
No, Mafia pardoner will always set us back a day and will likely block our first double lynch or our first successful double lynch.

If mayor is mafia, he will look at a split town consensus and pick a non-mafia target, or he'll have an active posting mafia member start a line of reasoning towards a non-mafia target and have people switch over to that. Either way, since there's nearly ZERO we can do to proof the choice, he can't be held accountable either because a townie mayor would be making a 1 in 4 shot anyways.

If the town/mafia mayor gets/sacrifices a mafia, the proper response would NOT be to assume he's a confirmed town member either way.

On May 17 2009 08:56 Incognito wrote:
Well things just got interesting...what do people have to say about this?

On May 17 2009 08:56 Incognito wrote:
Well things just got interesting...what do people have to say about this?

On May 18 2009 02:41 Malongo wrote:

- Last thing: You put words in my posts that dont belong there: "need to kill him". I never said that.

On May 18 2009 03:08 Mynock wrote:
We still have about 5-6 (or so) hours before the elections are over, so I'd like to urge everyone to vote. Those of you who have abstained, vote! It benefits Town, since we'll know where you stand.

I'd like to encourage you to either vote for me or Ace. The vote tallies are very close this time, so everything will be decided by 1 or 2 voices tops. Watch out for nemY suddenly getting a couple critical votes in the last minutes. Or anyone else for that matter.

On May 18 2009 04:21 L wrote:
I honestly don't know how to do that. I've never done it in all my posting on TL as far as I know. If you can tell me how i can pull a quote out with the name and time attached I'd be grateful.

On May 18 2009 04:16 Caller wrote:
Seriously you guys, we have like
Ace/Mynock/Tricode vs. L/nemy
Malongo vs. LucasWoJ

what the hell is going on people, stop arguing and let's figure out what the hell we're going to do voting wise and after the election. Ad hominem can wait until later!

On May 18 2009 05:15 Caller wrote:

From prior experience, both MBH and Camlito tend to post a day or so after the mayoral election, so we may want to let them live until then. I dunno what Plexa is doing, and infinity21 seems not to be paying much attn to the game -_-.
I still think that we'd be better off without a nemy mayor/pardoner...

On May 18 2009 05:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infundi, just go with ver hes a safe bet, and if we aren't careful he wont get in period.

On May 18 2009 07:04 Ace wrote:
Go ahead and write the Table of Contents then since you're so interested in posting all of a sudden.

In fact you should stop trying to derail the thread about me and focus on how far your body will dangle.

On May 18 2009 11:37 Ace wrote:
FFS don't you motherfuckers ever learn? Stop thinking about "what if he's blue" and just fucking READ the thread.

This is like Folca part 2.

On May 19 2009 02:31 mikeymoo wrote:
I don't see the need for a medic list, per se. Why play mind games with the mafia when the medics in this game are likely to be active?

On May 19 2009 09:04 infinity21 wrote:
ehh it looks like i'm dead already..

in my defense, someone kept nagging me to play so i signed up but i haven't had much time to read everything in this thread to conclude anything so that's why i haven't posted. plus i'm not very experienced at this game so i didn't want to start throwing accusations

kind of interesting how everyone thought i was mafia cause i didn't post =/

On May 19 2009 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ie check the 4th feast reference to RoL

On May 14 2009 16:18 Qatol wrote:
Bodyguard - Bodyguards are the protectors of the elected roles. As long as they remain alive the Mayor and Pardoner are both immune to all hits during the night. Bodyguards will not know who each other are, the elected roles will not know who they are, and they will be chosen from towny's after the Mayor chooses who to lynch. For all purposes the bodyguards gain no special abilities. You show up as Towny for all Rolechecks.

On May 19 2009 13:49 Caller wrote:

he means to say its really strange that both BGs died. It could be luck.

On May 19 2009 14:54 L wrote:
Did you read what he wrote? That's not how the game's rules work. All night actions happen at the exact same time. All of them work. You can't kill a vig in order to prevent his hit, nor can a vig drop the kp of mafia to reduce the amount of kills that happen. Medics can't be killed to remove their protection during that night.

On May 19 2009 13:59 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Questions that may be impossible or improbable to answer:
1. Who knew the BG roles? Ver, Ace, or both? A third party?
2. Was it dumb luck?
3. If not luck, then what is motivation for the act? Who benefits?

On May 19 2009 13:38 Fishball wrote:
Saw that long coming

On May 18 2009 13:33 MTF wrote:


All of the above indicates that the attacker is possibly small. He is not seen by Qatol when he turns around to find who was talking, the attacker leaps to strike Qatol's chest, and may have needed whoever attacked LTT's help in pushing the body into the water.

On May 19 2009 20:36 Mynock wrote:
Also, something else, the long Night, Qatol waiting for hits? Ver was waiting for the two BGs to roleclaim to him (and I agree with Ace here, I doubt they even READ the rules, and knew they were unknown to the elects), after which he put the kills on them. This is why I think hes more likely Mafia than Traitor.

On May 20 2009 07:22 HeavOnEarth wrote:
dont lynch ace, don't double lynch !
...well i just had to put it out there

On May 20 2009 07:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
However, I say we ignore ace/ver alltogether today (one will die at night regardless), and kill showtime based on this.

"unnoticed until one of them screamed and charged at LucasWoJ. mikeymoo fled from the scuffle as the attacker pulled out a syringe and slammed it into LucasWoJ's right eye. mikeymoo was gone by the time LucasWoJ was fully injected, but he could still hear the brutality even as he fled. The assailant bellowed again and started slamming the now empty syringe into LucasWoJ's face repeatedly until his face caved in and the only sounds left were guttural yells, the squishy impacts, and the sound of blood splatter."

Google, Showtime, and it brings you to http://www.sho.com/site/index.html

One of the main images is of a nurse with a syringe, then an image of ufc in there as well. One person directly links to the syringe and to a horrible beating, seems to me like a closed case.

On May 21 2009 06:00 Caller wrote:

muhahahahah you shall soon all fall under the influence of...

THE PUPPET MASTER!!!

On May 21 2009 07:56 MTF wrote:
- This isn't really a late bandwagon. In fact, I'm more fearful of the one I feel is approaching. Namely, the one that comes right after Ver posts a novel in a few hours, just before the vote closes.

On May 21 2009 09:31 Bockit wrote:


These are exactly the same stunts Ver pulled last game, don't fall for them! He might legitimately have an honours thesis to defend, I'm not going to make a call on that. What I am going to make a call on is that he promised activity in his electoral platform, I'll even quote him.



Read that again, look at his posting habits (both sparsity and content) and then try to tell me his absence is merely unusual

On May 21 2009 09:54 Bockit wrote:
That's the argument I'm expecting him to take if he is mafia. It's the only thing he can really do to try and save himself.

On May 21 2009 09:59 Bockit wrote:
My point is, the argument by no means establishes innocence because it's the most obvious position to take to try and prove ones innocence. And since it's essentially unprovable unless you know the person outside of the game, it's easy to lie about.

On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote:
b) Or should the vigilante hit me?

On May 21 2009 11:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him

On May 21 2009 13:00 dreamflower wrote:
All right, fine. I'm finally going to roleclaim, because I'm tired of hearing people suggesting that I should be lynched one second and then coming up with plans involving the vigi hit the next. It's been amusing, but also incredibly stressful, and I feel I could be doing not only the town but also myself some good by doing this.

I'm the one vigilante in this game.

This is why I've been quieter than usual this game, though I doubt it would necessarily have been noticeable for most. It's why I've avoided the spotlight and tried to post only when I had something truly substantial to share or when I wanted to defend myself so that I could carry out my role. Ver did correctly guess my color, but not its exact, shall we say, flavor. But then, there are twice as many medics and detectives as there are vigilantes in this game, after all.

Now, why should you believe me? Well, it would be highly risky for Mafia to ever roleclaim vigilante, even in ordinary circumstances when there are more than one. In this game, when there's only one vigilante, it becomes even more dangerous, even for the godfather. They can't run the risk of having their clues repeat, as the vigilante has only one hit and which clues show up in the Day posts aren't under their control. It's true that Mafia can kill their own members this round, but I don't think they'd want to chance that, with only six members this game. So, I'd really like to see if Mafia tries to roleclaim vigilante as well, as I'm the legitimate vigilante and they, well, would just make themselves targets.

On May 21 2009 13:02 L wrote:
Dreamflower. You will vig hit whomever is not killed tonight. If you don't, I am going to bring this town straight down on your ass tomorrow as planned. You will do this because roleclaiming will have you 100% killed, so its really not an issue either way.

If there is an extra hit tonight which corresponds with you, done. Problem solved. If not we proceed with tomorrow's double hit.

On May 21 2009 13:12 L wrote:

Even if both are blue, we cant' confirm innocence unless Ver flips red on kill.

Either both bullshit about the hit, which is likely because they're both going to die day 3 anyways, or Ver dies to a clue linking to dream and she's proven correct.

Still working out the rest of the details, thanks for your input here.

On May 21 2009 13:21 MTF wrote:


Asking if possible =/= requesting.

Lots of flawed logic being used by all of you last minute voters.

From: Ver
Subject: Re: you hit the mark
Date: 5/21/09 12:49
To prove my innocence without the town wasting a kill and because I might be gone the next two days.

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Original Message:
hah yeah except I was semi-joking

and according to you Ace is the traitor...

why do you want to be modkilled?

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Original Message:



This is true Nice eye.

On May 21 2009 13:48 Ver wrote:


No I haven't. I said I will but if people want info I'll give it.

On May 24 2009 14:04 Ace wrote:
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck now I have to go play another game of DOTA.

On May 24 2009 14:14 Ace wrote:
lolololololololol

On May 24 2009 14:17 LTT wrote:


/me whistles

On May 24 2009 14:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Issue being with my analysis of showtime was i brought it up once day 2, t hen dropped it completely.

after that in my huge bs post, i think i linked mbh and scamp, but vivi was just ugh, clue raped beyond belief

On May 24 2009 14:43 Qatol wrote:
MBH did not kill day 1

On May 24 2009 14:46 LTT wrote:


MBH was a normal sized person with tiny baby hands and the mind of a baby.