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As for my vote, it'll go to Ace for the moment. I'm not too happy with Empyrian going towards the pardoner position as of yet considering how he played last game, though. Gonna take a closer look at the clues now. | ||
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On March 19 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote: If there are 7 bodyguards and they all get the message but an 8th person steps forward and say's the mayor is not mafia, they will also know something is wrong. This is the situation I'm talking about. This will require an additional bodyguard to step in, which means another casualty. Edit: Although this does mean trading one mafia for one bodyguard on second thought. It could still be used as misinformation if used properly by the mafia though. | ||
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The thought was more of one bodyguard saying this, then a mafia steps in and says that, we'll need a second bodyguard to verify the first bodyguard, causing two bodyguard deaths instead of one. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i28.tinypic.com/2my0r54.gif) | ||
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On March 19 2008 07:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Such Epil Fail signifies nothing less than Mafia! Epil Fail Epil Epil ![[image loading]](http://i30.tinypic.com/28hlg07.jpg) | ||
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Yeah, but you two are discussing mafia plans and I'm not allowed in :< | ||
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On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote: Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are. You guys should vote on whether we should ban him  Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games. Are you sure these are not relatives/playing on diffrent comps but utilising the same network or anything? If not, I'm all for the banhammer. | ||
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On March 19 2008 09:09 Kau wrote: What I'm saying is that the pm is sent to every real bodyguard. Say there are 3 bodyguards. 3 pms would be sent out: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 3 Each bodyguard would then get pms back from Mafia 1 and 2 and thus are "confirmed". And about fake detectives springing forward and stating the mayor is innocent, the townies have no way of knowing who is telling the truth and who isn't. We can't know when a real detective steps forward because he could very well be fake. The problem with this mafia plan is that once one real bodyguard gets whacked (say, by a vigilante), all the other bodyguards would realize something is up. | ||
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On March 19 2008 09:32 Kau wrote: Ace, I don't see how scenario 1 would happen at all. Unless I don't understand how the game works (which is a definite possibility), this is how I see it using your numbers. What everyone knows: There are 7 bodyguards. Only the mayor knows which 7 people are bodyguards. Now, we assume that the mayor is also mafia, so he can coordinate with other mafia members. Since he knows who each bodyguard is, he will send each of the 7 bodyguards a pm. Each pm will have 7 people in it: 6 mafia and 1 bodyguard. Each bodyguard gets pm'ed back by the mafia members (6 different pm's for each bodyguard) and so they believe there are 7 bodyguards. No bodyguards are left out. Each list sent contains 7 people. Each bodyguard recieves 6 confirmation pm's. As I had said earlier, once one bodyguard dies, the other bodyguards would find out that the one that died isn't in their list and would obviously protest. Mayor gets lynched and people get the list of a large portion of the mafia, plus the mayor. | ||
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On March 19 2008 09:51 Kau wrote: So in the case a bodyguard speaks out, we lynch the mayor? Then what happens when the mayor was innocent and he sent all the pm's as he should. Some mafia could speak out and we'd lynch our mayor? Not one bodyguard, but several bodyguards and the detectives would speak out, most likely. | ||
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On March 19 2008 09:59 qrs wrote: Or even this (Call the bodyguards A-G and the mafia 1-4): A's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 B's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 C's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 D's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 E's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 F's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 G's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 Only 4 mafia used in that scenario. The bodyguards will never know. Until E dies and gets revealed as bodyguard, and A-D go wtf. | ||
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On March 19 2008 10:04 qrs wrote: Yes, if E dies by lynching, but that's a big if. Or gets hit by a vigilante, which isn't a big if. | ||
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 I might switch my vote from Ace to randombum if Ace is safe, but it'd be better if people that voted for empyrian switched. | ||
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On March 19 2008 22:21 Klive5ive wrote: We need to call Empyrean out. I'll start by saying I think it is very likely he is a detective. Everyone should be assumed innocent until CLUES or obvious circumstances cast serious doubt over them. The mistake made last time was to assume the people who posted frequently were Mafia, purely because they said things that were silly/didn't make sense. Just because people are stupid or play the game badly doesn't mean they are Mafia. In light of this the best way to go about it in my opinion is to NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE HIS PARDONING POWERS. By that I mean we simply state that he is not allowed to pardon anyone. IF he does, then he will be assumed Mafia and we simply lynch him next round. If enough people agree that this is a good idea we can get the benefits of a possible pardoner-detective without the disadvantages of a mafia-pardoner saving mafia. The problem with this is that our pardoner powers are now negated, and that the role-blocking mafia will be laughing as Empyrian can't do anything. | ||
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On March 19 2008 22:28 Klive5ive wrote: The pardoner is not a very useful role for the townies. We can't stop the role-blockers from stopping his detective powers anyway, so that point is irrelevant. That is exactly why declaring himself as a detective was such a bad idea. Also presumably a pardoner-detective would have both power blocked by role-blockers. So if he isn't mafia he probably won't be able to pardon anyway. Roleblock powers don't stop pardoning, afaik. Only abilities that are PMed to Chuiu can be stopped. And if Empyrian doesn't become pardoner, he'll still likely be protected by a lot of medics. This means one of these two things: A) The mafia wastes a lot of killing power to take out one detective. B) The mafia doesn't bother trying to take out empyrian and simply roleblocks him every turn until they think they can take him out. Now, since the roleblocker doesn't have a target yet, he might as well roleblock empyrian and save the mafia's killing power so they can hit other targets. This is obviously assuming Empyrian is a real detective. If he isn't, we've protected a mafia member where a helpful townie could've been that might now get killed. | ||
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On March 20 2008 04:56 Klive5ive wrote: 1.) He has a 11/13 chance of being a towny (and therefore probably a DT), I consider that decent odds. Just wanted to point out this flaw. He has a 4/130 chance of being a detective, and a 20/130 chance of being mafia. This means that if he's either a detective or mafia, the chance of him being mafia (completely ignoring any posts he made, purely statistical) weigh heavily towards him being mafia. | ||
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On March 20 2008 06:44 Ghar wrote: It doesn't matter how statistically probable it is. No judgement should be made at this point at all. It was simply a response to his statistical analysis, which was flawed. I'm not saying we should judge based on it. | ||
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edit: so I can go to sleep if it isn't. | ||
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Haven't really posted much as there are people much better at clue interpretation as I am. I'm reading every post though. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9728/fusionsdfdv5.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Not photoshopped, honest!+ Show Spoiler + ;_;+ Show Spoiler + Okay, maybe it was T_T | ||
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Since all mafia already know it I mind as well let all townies know as well. Obviously, I'm not going into detail on if I actually have a role or not. | ||
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I realize that I'm at the very bottom and thus the evidence isn't very strong, but what charactaristics on Joe did you find that link to me, Plexa? | ||
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On May 05 2008 07:52 nemY wrote: I talked to the mafia and you know what they said? + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2008 04:30 **********_ve wrote: I'm ghey and take it in the bootyhole. I see what you did there. | ||
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On May 09 2008 21:50 Camlito wrote: Shut up T.T. Convincing argument. | ||
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yeah because besides me messing around a bit there are so many clues leading to me | ||
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That was my contribution of the month. | ||
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We just can't. | ||
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One life left. | ||
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It's immoral. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8007/deadqg7.jpg) I still love this image haha | ||
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