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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 20:27 GMT
#8357
Iamp:

There are some very early interactions with Oats resulting in this:
On March 04 2024 12:29 iamperfection wrote:
+10 town points for oats though for not reading the op
but also +10 dummy points

On March 04 2024 12:31 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 04 2024 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:29 iamperfection wrote:
+10 town points for oats though for not reading the op
but also +10 dummy points


Why does that make him town?

town are slightly more likely to not be aware of the setup and freely post about it like a dummy imo. only slightly though

Generally alright. NAI
On March 05 2024 01:32 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 05 2024 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2024 01:27 Trfel wrote:
Raynpelikoneet, why do you think iamperfection is town?

I kinda think the opposite. He's been throwing side comments without getting involved or invested.

I think he is completely and utterly useless as mafia, and too lazy to form almost any reasonable trains of thoughts. I don't see it being like that here. Just look at the game that got cancelled last year for reference.

Excuse me. My win rate as mafia is extremely high.

Huh, is it? I was working under the assumption his mafia play was obvious.

He is going against Vivax on day1. Which is fine, towny even.

On March 05 2024 09:00 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 04 2024 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 15:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Oats looking better.

Why? I’m doing the same shit I was earlier

Does a scum post this?

meh. Why is this formulated as a question? Is he fishing for townreads on Oats without comitting himself?
On March 05 2024 14:59 iamperfection wrote:
2) Oatsmaster- eh I guess there may be some pots where there was genuine confusion. Tinfoil marv and rayn are mafia together I guess would more likely come from town. So slight town read

18) ToTheStars- useless might be scum might be not fine vig target

Further non commital on Oats. TTS read is good.
On March 06 2024 11:26 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 06 2024 11:25 Trfel wrote:
Yeah sorry, been dealing with some mental health issues, combined with being horrendous on day 1, has made it hard to find mafia or be very effective.

I think raynpelikoneet's play was very solid early on, he feels much more genuine than last game. It feels like he really cares about what he's doing. So I think he is town, same with marvellosity and sandroba by association. I would be very hesitant about suspecting these three. Kinda think DarthPunk is town as well, but I could be wrong.

I don't have any great scumreads unfortunately, or I would have shared them. I still don't like the way iamperfection was playing but I have vague memories of that just being his playstyle so I could be wrong.

Not sure what Vivax is doing with his "reasons" to suspect me. There are reasons I could be mafia, he managed to not find them but is very passionate about it anyway. I don't know if that means anything though.

if your lying about the mental health issues i applaud you.

This would be a pretty awful post as mafia tbh.
On March 07 2024 12:40 iamperfection wrote:
Oats your mission should you choose to accept it is to spew as much towness as possible this cycle. Then we can lynch VE if not i salute you my friend.

Not sure he would say this to his scumbuddy...
On March 08 2024 08:11 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?

This really feels like an act to me.

Hmmmm. Makes sense to bus at this point. But is a fair observation in general. One of the few people actually scumreading TTS.
On March 08 2024 10:35 iamperfection wrote:

TTS

Yes i have had some fear of possible lynch bait but the word choice he has used looks like a blatant act to me.

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On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?


I think they flipped town? like come on nobody would talk like that its clearly an act.

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On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?


He was aware that there was a check but somehow also dosnt know who claimed. A town member would go look i think he is blatantly trying to look like a noob so we dont lynch him.


That was quite terrible:
On March 09 2024 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 09 2024 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Eh let’s get something going
##unvote
##vote ve

Sure

If there is a strong mafia player going for saving Oats it might be Iamp. Sounds like a losing strategy though.
If CC and Palmar are town Iamp was pushing mafia agenda quite heavily.

Day3 Lynch:
On March 12 2024 10:49 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 12 2024 10:31 Rels wrote:
But from where I am in my catching up, VE should 100% be the lynch. The only post I didn't dislike was the Koshi case, but apart from that, textbook scum. Come back with a few big posts at the best time to not waste effort, during the last half of the day. Write cases that sound good but doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Martyr and GTFO

i kind of feel the same about this.

I think his engagement looks good. He clearly cares about the outcome. If CC is town it does not clear him but it looks good. Mafia probably prefers to mislynch her. If CC is mafia this is a power move.

He reacts quite explosively to Palmar calling him mafia.
On March 14 2024 06:58 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 14 2024 06:58 Palmar wrote:
I've for some reason played extremely carefully this game and it's gotten me nowhere. I've sat on reads to try to placate people and be a good boy but I think i'm just kinda done with it.

I think iamp is mafia

OK stay on palmar

On March 14 2024 07:00 iamperfection wrote:
Out palmar

On March 14 2024 07:08 iamperfection wrote:
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On March 14 2024 07:06 Palmar wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
On March 14 2024 07:02 Vivax wrote:
Palmar is another one of those ‚I think he may be lying every time he posts but does it make him mafia‘ types

I‘m going to stay on Jealous I‘ve had it with iamp telling me to stay on cop yesterday then lynching Ve now he wants to lynch Palmar

Vivax he comes back to the thread and says I'm mafia and doesn't even humor us with a reason. He is mafia

I kinda made the case earlier.

The point is you've been obstinate to the point of strangeness at way too many times in this thread.

Couple that with the feel of "just existing" thing I've talked about before.

Tbf the most towny thing you've done this game is try to lynch me.

Palamr how can you say I have been just existing in this game. I literally hammered ve I exposed the masons at the start and showed why rayn was town. I was the one that explained why tts was mafia when he came back. I lead the charge on trfel I literally post almost 24/7 wtf are you talking about. You have to be mafia

I think a little anger is warranted since Palmar gave him the same undeserved treatment he gave me. It still seems a bit over the top though.

Overall I have treated Iamp as town all game. Reason was - as mentioned before - that I had some mindmeld moments when reading the start of the game and he continued to post reasonably the whole game. Has a lot of interactions with the flipped mafia. Day2 vote was bad. Day3 vote was good if CC is town.

Conclusion: Not lock town but definitely not lynching today. Could be theoretically be the scumleader though. Especially if CC is mafia.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:07 GMT
#8363
Rels:

Very good early reads:
On March 05 2024 03:17 Rels wrote:
Voting ToTheStars, mainly for his last post.

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On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving).

I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask).

And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads.


I hate the last paragraph in particular. So much words to justify this weak vote. It looks like he's afraid to do something that might be suspicious and is asking permission

The rest of his filter is also nothing

On March 05 2024 03:45 Rels wrote:
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On March 04 2024 12:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:14 Trfel wrote:
On March 04 2024 12:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hbd Trfel,

I'm thinking of running for mayor, we haven't had mayor elections in a looong time (or I haven't played in a game with mayor elections in a long time).
May I ask, why should we vote for you as mayor?

Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started.

Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before.

Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day.
Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no?

And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor?

I was making a joke about Vivax saying he was going to autovote Palmar pregame and then immediately changed his mind.

Imo the Mayor KP is town KP, not a oneshot Day vig. It's not about avoiding responsibility it's about giving the town a chance to pull a 2for1 on D1.

Actually I'll cement that point, if I'm not going to win the mayor vote at the end of the day, I'm not going to vote for someone who hasn't also pledged to have the town decide the lynch.

Wait do you not know that there is only 1 vote for day 1 and that’s for the mayor

I know that's a super early post (that's actually the earliest post in my "opened waiting to be revisited" tabs). I didn't like it at the time, and I still don't like it

Like, it can originate from 2 situations: town having not read the OP, or scum faking this to appear like a town having not read the OP

If it comes from town, I don't understand how you can say something as assertive as "Wait do you not know that there is X" when you should know you. I know I would never write something like this without checking it a few times and making sure I'm right

If it comes from scum, I can see it. That just means he played the "I'm clueless" card, and made a mistake by pushing it a little too hard

On March 05 2024 05:11 Rels wrote:
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On March 05 2024 05:09 sandroba wrote:
On March 05 2024 05:06 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:54 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:53 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:52 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:44 iamperfection wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:43 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 04:42 iamperfection wrote:
Alright we are getting off track. Humoring vivaxs delusions that he made a good play is a waste of time. You either think he is scum or town for that he did we aren't voting him mayor.

Let's talk about how useless ve has been. He also is running for mayor but his post seems insincere to me. I'm voting him

What post?

His running for mayor post

On March 04 2024 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good morning everyone. It turns out I'm town for once so I apologize in advance for your own inability to read me and subsequent mislynch of me. I will endeavor to prevent it but I would do that as Mafia too so shrugz0rz.

I am running for mayor on a platform of lynching a lurker of my own choosing that is not subject to towns knowledge or influence.

A vote for VE is a vote for an active town.

Anyone who has posted so far is safe D1, for I am a kind and benevolent Lord.

Meh, I don't really see it. Not that I think it's townie, but I don't see the insecurity?

insincerity

As in he isn't really running for mayor

So the fact that he hasn't posted since his first spray of post? It makes him a lurker but I don't understand why it makes him scum

Why are you fighting this so much? Do you have a better vote?

1. You call it fighting, I don't, it's called discussing. I don't have a townread on VE. I want to understand what he did that is considered scummy because I don't see it
2. And yeah, mine. I think ToTheStars has the highest chance of flipping scum if the deadline was right now


What I still don't like is the way Rels went from Palmar to me on day1:
On March 06 2024 09:10 Rels wrote:
Gotta go. I would say out of the options I have, my preference would be Palmar > JAT > random lurker (out of those, I still think TTS has the highest chance of flipping scum)

Still think Trfel is town, I would prefer any random lurker over him

When he was really really sure about Palmar.
On March 06 2024 09:11 Rels wrote:
I don't know if everyone jumped off Palmar, but that's the scummiest thing that happened in the game in my opinion:
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On March 06 2024 08:19 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 06 2024 08:07 Rels wrote:
On March 05 2024 09:51 Palmar wrote:
Cba arguing with marv now but did make a mental note of him posting about vivax probably being town but not wanting to mayor him. Weird take because voting town mayor is always best. Can just bully them into lynching theme way we want.

But ironically I’m not sure marv would call me mafia as scum because he has no idea if I’m gonna put in work tomorrow or be lazy. But it’s all very weak and I’m not day 1 lynching players who can be relied on to actually try later on in the game.

I liked some Koshi posts


This is what I had in mind. Less strong than I thought but yeah, at the beginning of the marv push, the mentality was "marv wouldn't push me as scum". Let's see where that changes
On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


I guess there, throwing shade at marv


Because I wanted marv to change his mind during my flurry of posting this morning. He failed to do so correctly and is has received a citation for that.

That's not true. Here you were surprised at marv not changing his mind:
On March 05 2024 23:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.

It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread.

At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me.

Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread.

I’m getting you lynched bro.

Wait you still think I'm mafia?

Did you read my last 2 pages?

But you were throwing shade at him before that point:
On March 05 2024 22:12 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thankfully i can play the game with marv, it's much more enjoyable than this thread.

It looks really, really bad for you guys that you're all just checked out of the game but claim to be active in the thread.

At least be a man and just actually check out of the game like me.

Whoever is town of you three needs to start getting shit done in the thread.

On March 05 2024 22:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2024 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
--- Wall of text ---


Just so I get it clear.

a) Marv votes me and nowhere in your interactions he discusses or mentions the possibility of me being mafia?
b) You don't think that's strange at all?

Like you say twice I could be mafia, fine.

But you don't think it's weird marv doesn't even ponder it in a chat with you? The most important thing he does during the day phase is voting, and he is voting a player he likes and knows very well, and doesn't make a single comment about it?

Not weird?


On March 05 2024 22:48 Palmar wrote:
I need Sandroba to come convince me his mason buddies aren't just mafia.

I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it.


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On March 06 2024 08:30 Rels wrote:
"I really, really, really don't think marv just tries to kill me without even talking about it." => then 1 hour later "Wait you still think I'm mafia?"

?????


And then completely uncritically followed Palmar onto me.

Still on point:
On March 08 2024 12:31 Rels wrote:
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On March 08 2024 10:35 iamperfection wrote:
Just organizing my thoughts

VE

If you look at a lot of his posts he has no real opinions and goes in to general mafia guidance mode such as saying mafia would do this or probably act like this but not attaching it to any player. Makes promises of providing more content but never really does. He even complains that he wont have meaningful read until a flip happens. Well there have been several flips and claims and still he has not provided anything meaningful VE is old school scum where he just keeps making promises and does just enough posting to try and survive. He has no interest in figuring out the game and who is mafia because he is mafia.

TTS

Yes i have had some fear of possible lynch bait but the word choice he has used looks like a blatant act to me.

On March 07 2024 18:20 ToTheStars wrote:
DP and Vivax what are your reads?

All I remember of Day 1 is that I was townreading you two, maybe rayn, also alakaslam. And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?


I think they flipped town? like come on nobody would talk like that its clearly an act.

On March 08 2024 08:09 ToTheStars wrote:
I saw that there was a guilty on Oats? Who claimed the guilty?


He was aware that there was a check but somehow also dosnt know who claimed. A town member would go look i think he is blatantly trying to look like a noob so we dont lynch him.

Palmar

I feel like he is hiding behind the "way" he plays in order to just make useless posts in attempt to show actvivity with no real meaning behind them. He avoided all possible content that would give reads because he isnt really looking for that. He heavily ignored the whisper mechanic and seems perplexed about even though an unconfirmed mason is absolutely a role palmar would be aware which is what this basically is. If you look at his content he basically tunneled rayn and refused any evidence to try and figure out rayns alignment. He has a list post with no reasoning probably because he found it too hard to get real ones. He constantly has posts were he could give an opinion but simply doesn't. Palmar is not trying to catch mafia because he is mafia.

AWESOME find on TTS! "And scumreading trfel but I think they flipped town?" cannot ever make sense if it is not faked to appear clueless town??? 100% scum

On March 08 2024 13:56 Rels wrote:
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On March 08 2024 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
Rels can I get a list post of your reads please?

Scum: Palmar, TTS, VE, Oats
Possibly scum: DMB
Town: The rest apart from Jealous for which I have no read

On March 09 2024 14:35 Rels wrote:
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On March 09 2024 14:33 Jealous wrote:
My argument is that it is more implausible than plausible, basically. To me the margins are similar to "does Alakaslam fake being cop" or "can Oats really be miller." For me the answer to all of these was also a probabilistic "no." This one is less clear-cut partially due to Oats playing a great mafia at EOD2 so it might be plausible he had the idea already locked and loaded as a reaction to a reveal by Slam, for example. But I am going to base my decisions in this being unlikely until something forces me to reconsider.

In any case, I feel there are better lynch targets than DMB before we get there at the moment, and this helps wide the divide if I assume it as null hypothesis basically.

100% agree that the reaction time to vote a random partner immediately after being red check is super implausible

But that's not the case there. The DMB bullet was loaded more than 24 hours previously

On March 09 2024 15:10 Rels wrote:
I think I hate this big "I'll list all Oats reads" post from Jealous. It really appears to be easy busywork to appear active and involved.

I even hate this header, nobody cares:
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I don't want to misrep Oats so I will be limiting to what I consider reads to being their "votes" in this thread and if they ever directly say that someone is scummy/town. Simply "I don't like this (post)" is not enough IMO. In chronological order"


I hate that it was updated 2 more times (here and here). Smells like both an easy way to have a conversation with a partner and an easy way to do busywork

On March 10 2024 09:46 Rels wrote:
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On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy

I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS

I think these people are town

DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam

Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.

I think we have the exact same list if Jealous is swapped for JAT. Why Jealous?

On March 11 2024 13:33 Rels wrote:
My mind is here:

Scum
VE is almost confirmed scum IMO. My scumread started at the fake anger against rayn D1 (or N1? But I think D1), but the rest of his play since then is just an admission of being scum.

CC this cycle has been really, really scummy with her play. Martyring but still hanging out with no real objective and mainly discussing roles and KP targets. It really feels like a mafia that know they will be lynched but also know they have to participate in order to not play against their wincon

DMB has already been very scummy. I know she's has been scumread a lot s town, but the points that I think is not correlated to her style are her entrance where she spoke only in general terms until she was called out on it(I know at least by me, maybe others too), and the dumbtell in particular that looked very forced. Also was not a fan on how she behaved when marv/DP pushed her yesterday. I still haven't had the time to read one of her towngame, that's something that I will need to do

Jealous I hated a few posts from them. Already summarized it for marv yesterday, but basically, I have the feeling that his big posts are there to be townie / believable, not there because they're genuine. Contrary to some other takes I've seen, I didn't find anything particularly townie about them, if we exclude activity. I might be wrong, but I think his take on Vivax earlier was the first time he posted something that really resonated with me, and it was not even alignment related

--
[town]Town[/town]
JAT I've thought was townie for a while for some of his posts and analyses N1, but TBH this is becoming to become weaker and weaker. I can't remember anything they've done lately - I know they've been somewhat active, but can't remember a single thing that influenced my reads. Probably the weakest of my townreads.

Koshi is someone that I thought multiple times was falling off, but actually hit a sprea of posts after catching up and thought once again he was being extremely townie with the way he thought and jumped from idea to idea. Very strong townread.

Palmar, just quoted my reasonning to MZ earlier, really, really don't think he makes those dumbtells as an experienced player. I know dumbtell are always tempting as scum, but this feels like too much, especially in this game where people are being scumread for dumbtells already. I also really liked his last list post (last in the part of the game I've read, haven't read the last 24 hours).

DP is super, super town, in addition to actually having played against their wincon if they're scum by shooting a partner instead of a scummy townie.

MZ has been so doubtful and involved in D2 when there was no reason to, very very strong townread.

iamperfection is a somewhat strong townread. I actualy never filtered him so I'm probably missing a bunch of his posts, but several times, he posted stuff that was either a great find or exactly what I thought at the time.

Vivax is JK. If he's scum and we really have no other protective role, I'm blaming balance there.

JSL is confirmed town.

13 players so I'm missing someone.
Whelp I guess it's me lol

He has a very similar world view to where I am at right now. In general, we think quite similarly. Apparently also about how to play mafia:
On March 14 2024 10:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2024 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax how good is Rels at scum play?

Cause when I think about him I think he has to be town cause he is always saying the right thing.

But some players can do that, especially when they are mafia because they know all alignments.

There were some posts of his that look like obvious soft bus and push attempts so o can see where dmb is coming from.

If Rels is town and so correct why has he not had any influence this game except I think for saving cc?

I can of course bus if needed, but my preferred strategy is to get my team town cred and control the lynch candidates to have the right number of potential mislynches to win the game. If I do bus, I tend to do it hard
Actually got some proof I knew I had posted this somewhere, this is from my scum Discord I had with rayn and CopCake (Chezinu Streak Mafia):
Show nested quote +

please rayn refrain your instincts to bus me :p I know you play scum like this. So actually if you play like this it's also OK I don't want to impose. But I think we have a real shot at becoming the thread deciders if we townread each other and have a good time in thread?
or if you attack me becuse you think I'll be lynched today or tomorrow, please push me hard so you can distance yourself :p but the kind of soft push you did (I don't really like you but Tube is worse etc) I think was pretty partner telling
maybe I'm overestimating the posts I just did :p so I guess it depends on how people reacts when they wake up while I sleep
I think I did a pretty good job!
but I also thought that D1 so ....
lol
anyway, good night!

I buy this. Hence his pressure on TTS and Oats looks even better.

Conclusion: Town. Playing a very strong game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:09 GMT
#8364
To add: Rels went to VE with Iamp. Makes Rels even townier than Iamp depending on CCs alignment.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:10 GMT
#8365
I am at:

Jealous/DMB/xxx -> possibly MZ

Or someone is fooling me.

Tinfoil world is:

CC/Iamp/xxx
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:16 GMT
#8375
On March 15 2024 06:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I will say he has posted a lot of reads today. So that is kinda of defeating the reason I thought he was mafia.

He does it so he gains towncred so he can push people off Palmar.
Be very fucking wary if he suddenly starts hard pushing stuff in this thread.

Amazing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:17 GMT
#8381
On March 15 2024 06:15 Koshi wrote:
JAT hasn't done shit so far. But he is doing all this so they can lead town into oblivion.

Fuck you. I have done a shitton more than you today. Your 2 sentences don't even go together.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:22 GMT
#8389
On March 15 2024 06:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:17 DarthPunk wrote:
And why have we ruled out cake koshi? I guess I missed that part in the catchup?

I don't know DP. I just don't know why I can't read her mafia.
I think she can't be mafia with a lot of people after the VE/CC lynch. Especially not Jealous for example. Not with Rels. MZ would be unlikely as he really wanted me to lynch her.
Only iamp is left. And 1 our of Palmar/JAT.

And I do not think iamp is mafia.

So then it is CC/JAT and who? Also Palmar?

Why is jealous town? Or dmb?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:25 GMT
#8395
On March 15 2024 06:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:19 Koshi wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:17 DarthPunk wrote:
And why have we ruled out cake koshi? I guess I missed that part in the catchup?

I don't know DP. I just don't know why I can't read her mafia.
I think she can't be mafia with a lot of people after the VE/CC lynch. Especially not Jealous for example. Not with Rels. MZ would be unlikely as he really wanted me to lynch her.
Only iamp is left. And 1 our of Palmar/JAT.

And I do not think iamp is mafia.

So then it is CC/JAT and who? Also Palmar?

Why is jealous town? Or dmb?


Why do you towncase Rels in a Palmar vs you situation.
Should be a case on Jealous what are you his support ?

I don't understand what you are saying. I think Palmar and Rels are town. Why would I not? I did case Jealous. You cannot have missed it?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:26 GMT
#8398
I cased every single player except for DP, Vivax & Koshi.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:27 GMT
#8400
On March 15 2024 06:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:19 Koshi wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:17 DarthPunk wrote:
And why have we ruled out cake koshi? I guess I missed that part in the catchup?

I don't know DP. I just don't know why I can't read her mafia.
I think she can't be mafia with a lot of people after the VE/CC lynch. Especially not Jealous for example. Not with Rels. MZ would be unlikely as he really wanted me to lynch her.
Only iamp is left. And 1 our of Palmar/JAT.

And I do not think iamp is mafia.

So then it is CC/JAT and who? Also Palmar?

Why is jealous town? Or dmb?

Jealous could be mafia with who? CC who he is pushing 24/7?
Rels? not really after tonight.

So MZ? Ok I think that is possible.
Then what?

I keep ending up on Palmar/JAT.

But you 2 refuse to read each other mafia. Palmar did it a little bit but it felt fake as fuck tbh. He just divided his own wagon between you 2 and then you 2 did the work and tried to push us off you.

Why are you not weirded out that Palmar breaks up his own wagon and gets 4 votes on you.
Why were you not at least a bit suspicious of Palmar after VE flip?

You read some filters now and it all sounds like you read it for the first time. So why were you not more wary of Palmar before? I do not understand.

I was not wary of Palmar because I trust marvs read. Thought that was obvious.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:33 GMT
#8407
On March 15 2024 06:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:25 Koshi wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:19 Koshi wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:17 DarthPunk wrote:
And why have we ruled out cake koshi? I guess I missed that part in the catchup?

I don't know DP. I just don't know why I can't read her mafia.
I think she can't be mafia with a lot of people after the VE/CC lynch. Especially not Jealous for example. Not with Rels. MZ would be unlikely as he really wanted me to lynch her.
Only iamp is left. And 1 our of Palmar/JAT.

And I do not think iamp is mafia.

So then it is CC/JAT and who? Also Palmar?

Why is jealous town? Or dmb?

Jealous could be mafia with who? CC who he is pushing 24/7?
Rels? not really after tonight.

So MZ? Ok I think that is possible.
Then what?

I keep ending up on Palmar/JAT.

But you 2 refuse to read each other mafia. Palmar did it a little bit but it felt fake as fuck tbh. He just divided his own wagon between you 2 and then you 2 did the work and tried to push us off you.

Why are you not weirded out that Palmar breaks up his own wagon and gets 4 votes on you.
Why were you not at least a bit suspicious of Palmar after VE flip?

You read some filters now and it all sounds like you read it for the first time. So why were you not more wary of Palmar before? I do not understand.

I was not wary of Palmar because I trust marvs read. Thought that was obvious.

Well. We will see endgame. We haven't played since long and maybe you tell the truth.
I simply do not believe it.

What I do believe is that you are mafia and that you forgot that you needed to have scumreads at the ready. And that a flip changes things around.

I am upset that both you and Palmar didn't show brainactivity in your PoE list after the VE list.

I find it super sus.

I gave you guys an entire day to do shit and read each other.

It was subpar and it felt mafia buddies gaining towncred and then pushing votes off each other as soon as I saw that Jealous/Rels/dmb shit.

Well, we can be lucky that we can afford a mislynch on one of us if this is how you want to act. I just hope you get your shit together afterwards.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:33 GMT
#8408
On March 15 2024 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:29 DarthPunk wrote:
If palmar flips town and you are town koshi. Marv and myself will be absolutely insufferable. I hope you realise that.

It's fine. I am always insufferable so the only ones that loses will be the people playing with us.

word
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:34 GMT
#8410
She is probably mafia and quite happy about town destroying itself.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:40 GMT
#8419
On March 15 2024 06:36 DarthPunk wrote:
JAT ote cake with me. We aren’t voting jealous today that is a wasted vote.

That's not better than Palmar. I'll have to politely decline.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:41 GMT
#8422
On March 15 2024 06:39 DarthPunk wrote:
I want cake or JAT this phase.

Why? Low impact - low presence? You are better than this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:47 GMT
#8435
On March 15 2024 06:41 Palmar wrote:
@jat did you read what I posted about Rels this phase?

I can have a look. I might have missed it while filtering.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:49 GMT
#8440
On March 15 2024 06:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:39 DarthPunk wrote:
I want cake or JAT this phase.


🥰

Look people from the Obvs that I tried, tried to work with DP.

Just remember, town, DP is not cleared.

If he start his emo stuff do not buy it.


FAQ:

Plurality lynch. In the case of a tied vote the first player to obtain the most votes is lynched.
Mafia kp is carried. Each night the mafia must designate a player to carry each kill. Players may visit multiple people.
Mafia cannot hold their shot.
Town may vote for a no lynch
Self voting is allowed.
Mafia communications will be held over discord.

##vote: copcake

You are not helping anyone by voting yourself. Please stop it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:53 GMT
#8449
On March 15 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:36 DarthPunk wrote:
JAT ote cake with me. We aren’t voting jealous today that is a wasted vote.

That's not better than Palmar. I'll have to politely decline.


wtf why is it not better than your Town read palmar when cake is in your Poe?

I townread both. CC is only in the tinfoil scenario.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:57 GMT
#8461
Can't stay either. I'll be flying to the UK early tomorrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 14 2024 21:59 GMT
#8467
On March 15 2024 06:58 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 15 2024 06:36 DarthPunk wrote:
JAT ote cake with me. We aren’t voting jealous today that is a wasted vote.

That's not better than Palmar. I'll have to politely decline.


wtf why is it not better than your Town read palmar when cake is in your Poe?

I townread both. CC is only in the tinfoil scenario.


Walk me in this

Have I actually me tunneled on DP?

I mean I try - from my perspective - go to other directions and he comes like and repeats I am mafia.

There are several attemps of me trying to work with him but I get ignored.

Notice how he just woke up? And said lynch cake when he doesnt even cared to check my reads - bad or not - about iamp.

It is difficult to play this game.

My scenario of iamp/DP/palmar works perfectly

Jacob gives him a gun
Kill TTS to win town cred

Similar to what Oats and Iamp were doing while trying to lynch TTS the second day to save Oats


DP shot mafia. We gained a mislynch. If he is alive in LYLO you can think about killing him. Right now that is not productive.
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